Packers fan here to admit: the better team lost.

[onionsack]

Imagine you must be feeling pretty devastated after that but: as someone who suffered through some long decades of Packer incompetence, I know light at the end of the tunnel when I see it. And the Bears are about all the way through theirs. One unfortunate drop by Fuller and it's a W. We had no answer for Mack before he was gassed. Trubisky is young, will learn from this, and improve. You're going to take down a LOT of really good teams this season - probably ours when we meet again. Not going to wish you luck because, on this evidence, that's all that's standing in the way of you owning the division..

[Bears Whiskey Nut]

Imagine you must be feeling pretty devastated after that but: as someone who suffered through some long decades of Packer incompetence, I know light at the end of the tunnel when I see it. And the Bears are about all the way through theirs. One unfortunate drop by Fuller and it's a W. We had no answer for Mack before he was gassed. Trubisky is young, will learn from this, and improve. You're going to take down a LOT of really good teams this season - probably ours when we meet again. Not going to wish you luck because, on this evidence, that's all that's standing in the way of you owning the division..

Thanks man. We're not at that point yet. We're all a little devastated right now. But I think by week's end, most of us will reach that conclusion. We've got a good young team on our hands that needs time together in the same system.

[wab]

I don’t know that I’m devastated. I’m disappointed that they let that game get away, but I saw the makings of a pretty damn good football team.

[Bears Whiskey Nut]

I don’t know that I’m devastated. I’m disappointed that they let that game get away, but I saw the makings of a pretty damn good football team.

OK, sorry for the hyperbole. But most of the posts in the game thread were pretty 'end of days' in their tone. Including mine.

[wab]

I don’t know that I’m devastated. I’m disappointed that they let that game get away, but I saw the makings of a pretty damn good football team.

OK, sorry for the hyperbole. But most of the posts in the game thread were pretty 'end of days' in their tone. Including mine.

I completely understand. And generally I’m right there with the best of them. But , in sought of the loss, I find myself oddly optimistic. There’s a lot that needs to be cleaned up, but you can see really good things starting to happen.

[Bears Whiskey Nut]

I don’t know that I’m devastated. I’m disappointed that they let that game get away, but I saw the makings of a pretty damn good football team.

OK, sorry for the hyperbole. But most of the posts in the game thread were pretty 'end of days' in their tone. Including mine.

I completely understand. And generally I’m right there with the best of them. But , in sought of the loss, I find myself oddly optimistic. There’s a lot that needs to be cleaned up, but you can see really good things starting to happen.

As I get further away from the game, I see a lot of good things as well. A very young QB in a brand new system, and a brand new HC, trying to figure that system out, with the young players he has.

What I did see, for sure, is a MONSTER of a DL. Mack, Hicks, Goldman and RRH are downright scary. They all got gassed because our offense couldn't stay on the field in the second half.

[wab]

I don’t know that I’m devastated. I’m disappointed that they let that game get away, but I saw the makings of a pretty damn good football team.

OK, sorry for the hyperbole. But most of the posts in the game thread were pretty 'end of days' in their tone. Including mine.

I completely understand. And generally I’m right there with the best of them. But , in sought of the loss, I find myself oddly optimistic. There’s a lot that needs to be cleaned up, but you can see really good things starting to happen.

As I get further away from the game, I see a lot of good things as well. A very young QB in a brand new system, and a brand new HC, trying to figure that system out, with the young players he has.

What I did see, for sure, is a MONSTER of a DL. Mack, Hicks, Goldman and RRH are downright scary. They all got gassed because our offense couldn't stay on the field in the second half.

The defense not pacing themselves was a problem that no one has really mentioned. Running Mack out of gas before halftime hurt.

[Bears Whiskey Nut]

I don’t know that I’m devastated. I’m disappointed that they let that game get away, but I saw the makings of a pretty damn good football team.

OK, sorry for the hyperbole. But most of the posts in the game thread were pretty 'end of days' in their tone. Including mine.

I completely understand. And generally I’m right there with the best of them. But , in sought of the loss, I find myself oddly optimistic. There’s a lot that needs to be cleaned up, but you can see really good things starting to happen.

As I get further away from the game, I see a lot of good things as well. A very young QB in a brand new system, and a brand new HC, trying to figure that system out, with the young players he has.

What I did see, for sure, is a MONSTER of a DL. Mack, Hicks, Goldman and RRH are downright scary. They all got gassed because our offense couldn't stay on the field in the second half.

The defense not pacing themselves was a problem that no one has really mentioned. Running Mack out of gas before halftime hurt.

Yeah...but it was fun as shit to watch.

[Teddy KGB]

I need Mitch to not look scared in that second half, for starters.

Here is what I saw -

* The Bears Offense looked lost when they got off the initial scripted plays.
* Matt Nagy did NOT impress me in the second half - how many short yardage plays to Sims can a guy call?
* Our OTs are NOT good and got owned all game long.
* Whitehair should be a guard - PERIOD. How many high snaps in a game can a dude have?
* Mitch looked scared and lost, and missed a LOT of wide open players, and with the game on the line, he was overthrowing guys by a ridiculous margin - NOT GOOD.

I do see a lot of potential too. But I have some initial worries now. Mitch can still grow, but the "aw shucks, golle gee" act can only endear you to fans for so long; start with making a good read and a completion when off the initial script...

We will see how this bodes for the season. I need to see game to game improvement.

[Otis Day]

Look for more QBs/teams to keep up the quick passing game in the future. The D will continue to be strong, especially when Smith and Mack are up to speed.

Nagy will realize it is OK to run the ball more as well, I hope.

[bearsfaninaz]

This game reminded me of the Bears Cardinals game where the Bears had no business winning that game.

[Pagan]

This Bears front 7 {with R. Smith starting} is Beast!

[docc]

Imagine you must be feeling pretty devastated after that but: as someone who suffered through some long decades of Packer incompetence, I know light at the end of the tunnel when I see it. And the Bears are about all the way through theirs. One unfortunate drop by Fuller and it's a W. We had no answer for Mack before he was gassed. Trubisky is young, will learn from this, and improve. You're going to take down a LOT of really good teams this season - probably ours when we meet again. Not going to wish you luck because, on this evidence, that's all that's standing in the way of you owning the division..

Class..
I agree..Packers are a developed team with years together in a system.. I liked a lot..

[Knuckles]

Imagine you must be feeling pretty devastated after that but: as someone who suffered through some long decades of Packer incompetence, I know light at the end of the tunnel when I see it. And the Bears are about all the way through theirs. One unfortunate drop by Fuller and it's a W. We had no answer for Mack before he was gassed. Trubisky is young, will learn from this, and improve. You're going to take down a LOT of really good teams this season - probably ours when we meet again. Not going to wish you luck because, on this evidence, that's all that's standing in the way of you owning the division..

Thanks for the kind words! It was one hell of a game and fun to watch. I'm torn, of coarse I would've loved a win but I saw a young team look like a contender for 1/2 of the game. That's exciting to see and this will be a fun match up later in the year when hopefully the Bears are more conditioned and all on the same page. The bar's set at playing a Rodgers led Packers team and the Bears are close.

Good luck the rest of the season!

[Bears Whiskey Nut]

Look for more QBs/teams to keep up the quick passing game in the future. The D will continue to be strong, especially when Smith and Mack are up to speed.

Nagy will realize it is OK to run the ball more as well, I hope.

If teams try and go to a quick passing game against the Bears, shouldn't the DB's be up in press coverage, jamming the WR's at the line? I didn't see that AT ALL last night.

[thunderspirit]

This game reminded me of the Bears Cardinals game where the Bears had no business winning that game.

Thist is exactly what I thought as the game wound down last night.

[Otis Day]

I didn't either, that was disappointing. Good adjustment by the Pack. I think Fangio just wanted to keep everything in front of the secondary, ala the Cover 2, prevent a win strategy. It is effing Rodgers, he can get the job done.

[G08]

Imagine you must be feeling pretty devastated after that but: as someone who suffered through some long decades of Packer incompetence, I know light at the end of the tunnel when I see it. And the Bears are about all the way through theirs. One unfortunate drop by Fuller and it's a W. We had no answer for Mack before he was gassed. Trubisky is young, will learn from this, and improve. You're going to take down a LOT of really good teams this season - probably ours when we meet again. Not going to wish you luck because, on this evidence, that's all that's standing in the way of you owning the division..

Wow... appreciate that, man. Rodgers is the GOAT and he did to us what he has been doing to us for his entire career.

[Bearfacts]

I didn't either, that was disappointing. Good adjustment by the Pack. I think Fangio just wanted to keep everything in front of the secondary, ala the Cover 2, prevent a win strategy. It is effing Rodgers, he can get the job done.

And that has failed to stop Rodgers so many times it's amazing to me Fangio would even try. The only explanation I can offer is that neither Amukamara or Fuller play well with their back to the QB in man coverage. Fuller was peeking when Allison put a burst on and got a step on him and Adams made Amukamara look silly on that long gainer before his TD catch.

Then as if that's not bad enough on the next series he's 10 yards off Adams in the red zone and backpedals off the snap giving Adams not only an uncontested catch but acres of room to run after it. Those were two examples of some of the worst coverage I saw all night and they resulted in an easy score. You gotta make a team earn those points and we didn't, period.

I hope that's the end of Amukamara's ten interception boast. Just STFU and learn to cover first.

[Bears Whiskey Nut]

Imagine you must be feeling pretty devastated after that but: as someone who suffered through some long decades of Packer incompetence, I know light at the end of the tunnel when I see it. And the Bears are about all the way through theirs. One unfortunate drop by Fuller and it's a W. We had no answer for Mack before he was gassed. Trubisky is young, will learn from this, and improve. You're going to take down a LOT of really good teams this season - probably ours when we meet again. Not going to wish you luck because, on this evidence, that's all that's standing in the way of you owning the division..

Wow... appreciate that, man. Rodgers is the GOAT and he did to us what he has been doing to us for his entire career.

Fucking Aaron Rodgers man. I knew as soon as he dropped that dime in the end zone, that we were going to lose that game. Offensive PI or not, that was a brilliant throw off of one leg, 55 yards in the air. Just fucking unbelievable.

[G08]

Imagine you must be feeling pretty devastated after that but: as someone who suffered through some long decades of Packer incompetence, I know light at the end of the tunnel when I see it. And the Bears are about all the way through theirs. One unfortunate drop by Fuller and it's a W. We had no answer for Mack before he was gassed. Trubisky is young, will learn from this, and improve. You're going to take down a LOT of really good teams this season - probably ours when we meet again. Not going to wish you luck because, on this evidence, that's all that's standing in the way of you owning the division..

Wow... appreciate that, man. Rodgers is the GOAT and he did to us what he has been doing to us for his entire career.

Fucking Aaron Rodgers man. I knew as soon as he dropped that dime in the end zone, that we were going to lose that game. Offensive PI or not, that was a brilliant throw off of one leg, 55 yards in the air. Just fucking unbelievable.

If you're a masochist like I am when it comes to this fucking team, go back and watch the replay angle of the throw. Kyle Fuller misses breaking it up by a literal inch. Rodgers is the best.

[Umbali]

I feel like I have no words. I almost laid in the fetal position last night when the game was over. Being fat kept me from curling up that much lol.

I hate that I could see the result coming...even as it was on its way. I was telling my father in law....here we go again..I have seen this ending...

I do understand this is a learning curve. I do get that it takes time. This game however should have been won.

I dont understand a lot of the offensive play calling in the 4th Quarter. I dont understand all of a sudden Mitch being scared to throw.

I dunno. In most cases I would have expected a loss, but seeing as how we had that game in hand and gave it away, just devastates me.

I do however appreciate the sentiment by the OP. Thank you. That was classy.

[Bears Whiskey Nut]

Imagine you must be feeling pretty devastated after that but: as someone who suffered through some long decades of Packer incompetence, I know light at the end of the tunnel when I see it. And the Bears are about all the way through theirs. One unfortunate drop by Fuller and it's a W. We had no answer for Mack before he was gassed. Trubisky is young, will learn from this, and improve. You're going to take down a LOT of really good teams this season - probably ours when we meet again. Not going to wish you luck because, on this evidence, that's all that's standing in the way of you owning the division..

Wow... appreciate that, man. Rodgers is the GOAT and he did to us what he has been doing to us for his entire career.

Fucking Aaron Rodgers man. I knew as soon as he dropped that dime in the end zone, that we were going to lose that game. Offensive PI or not, that was a brilliant throw off of one leg, 55 yards in the air. Just fucking unbelievable.

If you're a masochist like I am when it comes to this fucking team, go back and watch the replay angle of the throw. Kyle Fuller misses breaking it up by a literal inch. Rodgers is the best.

Oh, I've watched it MULTIPLE times. It was a brilliant throw in every sense of the word. However I balance out my masochism by watching the Mack pick six over and over.

[Otis Day]

Imagine you must be feeling pretty devastated after that but: as someone who suffered through some long decades of Packer incompetence, I know light at the end of the tunnel when I see it. And the Bears are about all the way through theirs. One unfortunate drop by Fuller and it's a W. We had no answer for Mack before he was gassed. Trubisky is young, will learn from this, and improve. You're going to take down a LOT of really good teams this season - probably ours when we meet again. Not going to wish you luck because, on this evidence, that's all that's standing in the way of you owning the division..

Wow... appreciate that, man. Rodgers is the GOAT and he did to us what he has been doing to us for his entire career.

Fucking Aaron Rodgers man. I knew as soon as he dropped that dime in the end zone, that we were going to lose that game. Offensive PI or not, that was a brilliant throw off of one leg, 55 yards in the air. Just fucking unbelievable.

He got some push off that left leg. The pass to fucking Geronimo Allison!! WR 3 in that O.

[Bearfacts]

I copied this response from another site only because I'm in complete agreement with the poster relative to the two 3rd down plays he analyzes the first being that ridiculous cross field pass to Sims who couldn't even manage to be certain he was at least one yard beyond LOS when he caught the ball. If I recall we ran that same play several years ago and it was picked and returned for a score. Gadget plays like that we don't need. Shame on Nagy.

But the second and far more important one was 3rd and 2 from GB's 14 yard line. I could not have analyzed it any better than this fan does so I'll let it speak for itself and only say his point is the same one I've made to several friends. A FG was useless at the point. A TD beats us anyway and did but a FG would only force a tie and OT.

Surely we could have gained 2 yards in 2 running downs while keeping the clock running down to 2 minutes on the first try and run down under 2 minutes on the second. Even if we fail GB gets the ball with 87 yards to go for a win and at least 50 to be in solid FG range with under 2 minutes to play, no timeouts, and the clock is running with the snap. And they have to do this from deep in their own zone.

Nagy's lack of situational awareness and use of his best strategy to put pressure on GB is weak and so mind boggling it's like dipping into John Fox territory again. So yes, Nagy deserves major criticism for this loss. Read on.

I agree with the writer that Nagy deserves the criticism. I know one play or two play does not make the ball game but their are two particular plays that stand out to me and the playcalling was horrible. Both 3 and short opportunities in the 4th quarter were the Bears got "cute" instead of being smart.

First, the 3rd and 1 from near midfield, after Jordan Howard got 9 yards on 2 carries and Nagy calls the "sucker" play in which Trubisky completed a pass to Sims for No Gain. Again bad play all around. Ridiculous that Sims doesn't have any idea where the sticks are but I kind of expect it out of him as he has done next to nothing since we signed him. We failed to get the 1st down and punted.

But Nagy learned absolutely nothing from that play and later in the 4th quarter the Bears had the ball 3rd and 2 from the 14 yard line leading the Packers 23-20. Now to reset the situation Jordan Howard had just gained 12 yards on the last 2 carries and when he got up he was pumped up and clearly wanted the ball on 3rd down. Green Bay used their 3rd and final timeout after the play. So 3rd and 2 is the situation and anybody that knows football knows...4th quarter with a lead and no timeouts for your opponent-"KEEP THE CLOCK RUNNING!!!" Instead Nagy got cute with the play call. The Bears had 1TE, 1 RB (not Howard), and 3 Wide Recievers and ran a bootleg right and the Pass fell incomplete and the clock was stopped. The Bears settled for a field goal and a 6 point lead.

Now I realize players make plays and their are several that Bears players didn't make that could have changed the the outcome of the game (see Kyle Fuller's drop of a sure interception) but those two play calls where 2 that Nagy really got me scratching my head. Hindsight is 2020 and everybody thinks they could do better. But as I watched the game a Buddy asked me in both instances "What would you do?" Of course I run it on the first third down. Maybe Howard, or Maybe a Jet sweep which we set up all night with Anthony Miller in motion. If the Bears get the first great if not we punted anyway.

But on the second 3rd down with under 3 minutes left. I said run it again to Howard and let the clock run down to what would have been the 2 minute warning. If we fail on 3rd down. GO FOR IT ON 4TH!!!. My friend said really... Go for it on 4th. I said absolutely... A field goal gives us a 6 point lead but a touchdown and extra point beats us. If we fail to get the tag but 1st. 2 yards on two plays. We give Green Bay the ball with under 2 minutes from inside the 20. A field goal does the the game but at least it changes our chances of winning because it changes the playcalling and we may have to play overtime but the chances of winning increase with that playcalling in that situation.

Nagy was introduced as the Bears head coach and he repeatedly said he was going to be agressive.... He may be confused about the definition because to me, Being Creative and Cute is not my definition for being Agressive. Being Agressive is being Tough and Determined.

The Tale of Two Halves of Football... A+ % for the first and an F for the the Last.

[malk]

My only disagreement with the above is if the game goes to overtime there's no way we win so that gives a tiny upside to kicking the field goal.

But 2 chances for 2 yards for a 1st down and a win. Even if it fails you've run a bunch off the clock and they've got to start from inside their 20. Maybe Rodgers still makes it but their playcalling is more limited and it gives our defence more options. Football isn't just by the numbers but in that case the numbers indicate that we more often than not get 2 yards from 2 plays AND the flow of the game points to a field goal not being enough.

[ramentaschen]

I don’t believe that the Bears were the “better” team in this game. The better team does not get complacent after getting a big lead. The better team does not fail to make adjustments when a scheme is not working.

There is plenty of blame to go around for this game, from the players to the coaching staff. Hopefully we can learn something from this going forward.

[Bearfacts]

My only disagreement with the above is if the game goes to overtime there's no way we win so that gives a tiny upside to kicking the field goal.

But 2 chances for 2 yards for a 1st down and a win. Even if it fails you've run a bunch off the clock and they've got to start from inside their 20. Maybe Rodgers still makes it but their playcalling is more limited and it gives our defence more options. Football isn't just by the numbers but in that case the numbers indicate that we more often than not get 2 yards from 2 plays AND the flow of the game points to a field goal not being enough.

I wouldn't say we had no chance of winning in OT but with momentum Rodgers had built they would have to be favored. But it still takes a TD. If they receive and we hold them to a FG we get a shot to score as well.

But I think the whole point here is THIS is where Nagy SHOULD have played not to lose. Three points was useless if they can score and not only weren't we stopping them but we gave them a minute more time to do it even if we tried twice and failed. They'd have had less than 2 minutes to go 87 yards to score and 50 yards to get into FG range and then Crosby still has to make it to tie. That really would have changed their decision making too.

Third and two with a tough inside runner against worn down defense or a quick pitch to Cohen whose quicker and more elusive than any one defender and we have two shots at it? Jeezus I hope if that situation ever comes up again Nagy does the exact opposite of what he did do. When GB called their last time out he, his OC, and Trubisky should have been discussing all of the possibilities and I think they did not.

Mitch is still too young to fight for his side and Helfrich isn't the play caller. Was he even on the sidelines or was he in the booth? I realize the game is over if Fuller had looked that ball in and secured it before thinking 6 points but there's a real good chance that play never takes place had we gone for it. I'm sure McCarthy and Rodgers were very happy we didn't.

[malk]

My only disagreement with the above is if the game goes to overtime there's no way we win so that gives a tiny upside to kicking the field goal.

But 2 chances for 2 yards for a 1st down and a win. Even if it fails you've run a bunch off the clock and they've got to start from inside their 20. Maybe Rodgers still makes it but their playcalling is more limited and it gives our defence more options. Football isn't just by the numbers but in that case the numbers indicate that we more often than not get 2 yards from 2 plays AND the flow of the game points to a field goal not being enough.

I wouldn't say we had no chance of winning in OT but with momentum Rodgers had built they would have to be favored. But it still takes a TD. If they receive and we hold them to a FG we get a shot to score as well.

But I think the whole point here is THIS is where Nagy SHOULD have played not to lose. Three points was useless if they can score and not only weren't we stopping them but we gave them a minute more time to do it even if we tried twice and failed. They'd have had less than 2 minutes to go 87 yards to score and 50 yards to get into FG range and then Crosby still has to make it to tie. That really would have changed their decision making too.

Third and two with a tough inside runner against worn down defense or a quick pitch to Cohen whose quicker and more elusive than any one defender and we have two shots at it? Jeezus I hope if that situation ever comes up again Nagy does the exact opposite of what he did do. When GB called their last time out he, his OC, and Trubisky should have been discussing all of the possibilities and I think they did not.

Mitch is still too young to fight for his side and Helfrich isn't the play caller. Was he even on the sidelines or was he in the booth? I realize the game is over if Fuller had looked that ball in and secured it before thinking 6 points but there's a real good chance that play never takes place had we gone for it. I'm sure McCarthy and Rodgers were very happy we didn't.

Oh I'm with you. The other part of this is that it's 4 down territory for the Packers at that point. We couldn't stop Rodgers on the previous two drives with 3 downs, what where the odds of doing so with 4.

Yes Nagy needs to have the confidence in his system but he also needs to know what we have on this team and the confidence to use Howard.

[46Blitz]

Funny thing about the 3rd a 2 play at the end of the game... I see this sort of shit around the league. Watching the Rams game tonight for instance. Several times toward the end of the game (with the rams leading) I saw them pass it when the needed 2yards on second and 3rd downs. I really don't get this when you have show the ability to run the ball well with an elite RB. When up points (10pts in rams game) 3-5mins left? Incomplete passes stop the clock.

Some of these coaches outsmart themselves.

It's frustrating as a fan to watch. I never can make reason for it. It's basic football. If it fails to pick up the first? You just ran off valuable time off the clock for your opponent.