I think Jefferson's deal which makes him #4 is a likely target but that deal was signed in March 2017. Extending Amos now or next winter would in all likelihood mean a deal that pays more than Jefferson's $19 mil gtd/$8.5 mil apy.
FWIW if Amos continues to rank as highly as he does we're probably looking at more than $20 mil gtd and closer to $9-$10 mil apy especially when the top guys are getting $12-$13 mil apy.
I think Jefferson's deal which makes him #4 is a likely target but that deal was signed in March 2017. Extending Amos now or next winter would in all likelihood mean a deal that pays more than Jefferson's $19 mil gtd/$8.5 mil apy.
FWIW if Amos continues to rank as highly as he does we're probably looking at more than $20 mil gtd and closer to $9-$10 mil apy especially when the top guys are getting $12-$13 mil apy.
I'd be offering $8m per now on that basis.
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malk wrote:Does anyone really see him signing for less than Tony Jefferson's 4 years $34m?
Probably not, which is why I can’t see him signing long term with our other committed salaries.
Can we tender him with a pick compensation? I’m far from strong on nfl salary cap rules.
No tenders, he's unrestricted.
Best you can hope for is maybe a 2020 late compensatory for losing him. (And that would probably require losing another starter, pending who gets brought in.)
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I think Jefferson's deal which makes him #4 is a likely target but that deal was signed in March 2017. Extending Amos now or next winter would in all likelihood mean a deal that pays more than Jefferson's $19 mil gtd/$8.5 mil apy.
FWIW if Amos continues to rank as highly as he does we're probably looking at more than $20 mil gtd and closer to $9-$10 mil apy especially when the top guys are getting $12-$13 mil apy.
I'd be offering $8m per now on that basis.
Has Pace ever given an extension once the season has begun?
The biggest factor will always be the guaranteed money more so than the salaries and any new money will almost certainly need to go against the 2019 cap and after. The cap numbers following the Goldman extension leave us with just over $6 mil in cap left to cover the 2018 season. Can Amos be signed for less than $20 mil gtd?
Bears 2018 Cap Totals
Maximum Salary Cap:
$184,808,858
Active Contracts:
$162,393,978
Injured Reserve:
$1,343,304
Dead Cap:
$12,429,613
Total Cap:
$178,556,895 Est. Cap Space:
$6,251,963
Yes, if possible. Donatell and Fangio are what matters. They should set his value and the cap guys should find it. If Amos' agent thinks PFF values him more, then Amos will have to go FA and see if PFF gives him a better offer.
FWIW this was an item in Brad Biggs 10 Thoughts this week.
7. The Bears are probably done handing out big contracts — I mean really big contracts — for a while after the extension to nose tackle Eddie Goldman. Could safety Adrian Amos eventually be paid? That’s possible, but at some point the Bears are not going to be able to pay everyone and they’ll finally get back into the game of picking up occasional compensatory draft picks (which happens only when you allow players whom other teams covet to walk in free agency). It’s always wise to track the marketplace when it comes to the largest contracts across the league and given the ongoing stare-down between the Steelers and running back Le’Veon Bell.
I asked former agent Joel Corry, who is now a contract and salary-cap expert for CBS Sports, if we should expect to see more players either playing out their contracts to reach the open market or holding out in order to get raises. “You’ve got to get them (signed) before the (contract) season starts because there becomes a point in time during the season where the guy has incurred enough of a risk for injury and poor performance that he would rather just see it through. So you better do it early, so you either do it now or during the first quarter of the season because he might go, ‘You know what, I’ll play out the string.’
I'd be interested to know whether or not Pace has had any discussions with Amos' agent about an extension or whether he's content to wait out this season, see how much cap rollover he has, make his decisions on those who won't return, and then approach it.
IMHO this could be another situation like Fuller's where he'll allow Amos to receive offer under a tag that will allow him to match it. If he wants to extend him now Amos will have to agree that most of his guaranteed money will come in 2019 and after. There's not much excess cap remaining now.
I like Amos but this is a case of "you can't pay everyone". If he doesn't have a big market, yeah definitely do it. If he does... I'd thank him for his service and give the savings to Eddie Jackson on his next deal. That kid is a stud.
I love Amos...But if he won’t sign a deal that benefits both parties then we move on. Bush seems to have progressed and may be ready to step into a starting role.
wab wrote:I really like Amos, but G08 is right... they can't pay everyone and they seem to be high on DHC. Bush even looked pretty good in preseason.
Given the fact that the Bears haven't had stability at safety since Mike Brown and Tony Parrish, it would be nice if they kept him.
Mostly this. I think they really like Bush.
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wab wrote:I really like Amos, but G08 is right... they can't pay everyone and they seem to be high on DHC. Bush even looked pretty good in preseason.
Given the fact that the Bears haven't had stability at safety since Mike Brown and Tony Parrish, it would be nice if they kept him.
Mostly this. I think they really like Bush.
Mikefive...don't we all...?
Sometimes I prefer a Brazilian to bush.
Ha.
Same here. I told my wife (then girlfriend) I'd shave my face if she shaved that off, and meant it as a joke. That was 2006 (I remember only because it was my freshman year of college). She ended up matching me shave for shave so I haven't grown a beard yet. It is just regular maintenance for us now.
Maybe she is conditioned enough that she won't remember or stop if I grow it out? I'm 30 and have no fuckin clue what my beard looks like. lol
Looking back at our Ss from Conte on back to Brown, in that time (other than Brown) we had what one good S Haris? We also had Manning who sucked for all but his last year then they got rid of him lol. I remember saying every draft we need a S but they would always either not pick one or pick a late round dud.
Both our S's are good we need to keep them together so long as they can afford both but if I had to pick one it would be Jackson he's a ballhawk and exciting to watch. Amos is great against the run though it's a good combo.
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