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wab wrote:I'll never understand this "disappointing win" stuff. They can go ahead and disappoint me with a win every week...all the way up to the most disappointing super bowl victory of all time.
This.Boris13c wrote:wab wrote:I'll never understand this "disappointing win" stuff. They can go ahead and disappoint me with a win every week...all the way up to the most disappointing super bowl victory of all time.
I would categorize it as an ugly win rather than a disappointing win
and an ugly win is better than a pretty loss any day of the week
This.wab wrote:I'll never understand this "disappointing win" stuff. They can go ahead and disappoint me with a win every week...all the way up to the most disappointing super bowl victory of all time.
It's a strange thing. I watched the game the first time, and its like the frustration of being down 14 gets in your head. you just want Mitch to score NOW, WE NEED POINTS, and the couple of misses stick out way more than the huge completions down the field to Burton and Robinson that were really nice passes.BearButtseks wrote:Man, the offense is tough to watch. It's funny because the errant throws stick out in my mind so much that, if you asked me Trubisky's stats after the game, I'd guess he had around a 50% completion rate. When I read that he was 24/35, I couldn't believe it. Now, of course, with all the horizontal passes, that's going to pad the completion % and drop the YPA, but it felt like he was missing all over the place.
Don't you go being sensible and logical. Don't you DARE.KOP_Snake wrote:It's a strange thing. I watched the game the first time, and its like the frustration of being down 14 gets in your head. you just want Mitch to score NOW, WE NEED POINTS, and the couple of misses stick out way more than the huge completions down the field to Burton and Robinson that were really nice passes.BearButtseks wrote:Man, the offense is tough to watch. It's funny because the errant throws stick out in my mind so much that, if you asked me Trubisky's stats after the game, I'd guess he had around a 50% completion rate. When I read that he was 24/35, I couldn't believe it. Now, of course, with all the horizontal passes, that's going to pad the completion % and drop the YPA, but it felt like he was missing all over the place.
I watched the game a second time, the condensed version, and knowing the outcome, not being on edge about being down early, etc. I could pay better attention to how well Mitch actually played. He had like 4 bad passes. 2 that could've been touchdowns, 1 on that rollout that should've been picked, and the screen that got tipped and picked off. He also had that fumble that Arizona was super lucky on, because Mitch had a ton of daylight ahead of him. I don't see a lot of QB's that wouldn't have fumbled that ball. Hell, if you are able, watch the Vikings vs Buffalo game. Cousins handed the Bills the game with fumbles. And I've heard some people say we should've gone after Cousins!
Everyone wants him to be great NOW. Or at least by next game. Well he wont be, but Jesus fuckin Christ he's not THAT bad. He's better than Rookie Orton, and idk how many meatballs were saying "He won 10 games!"
They're looking at Mahomes and Watson with jealous eyes. They don't know about Brees, or Wilson, or the fact that Aaron Rodgers didn't play for 3 years, learning the same scheme the whole time.
Remember RG3? Dak Prescott? Colin Kaepernick? Started pretty hot and regressed.
KOP_Snake wrote:It's a strange thing. I watched the game the first time, and its like the frustration of being down 14 gets in your head. you just want Mitch to score NOW, WE NEED POINTS, and the couple of misses stick out way more than the huge completions down the field to Burton and Robinson that were really nice passes.BearButtseks wrote:Man, the offense is tough to watch. It's funny because the errant throws stick out in my mind so much that, if you asked me Trubisky's stats after the game, I'd guess he had around a 50% completion rate. When I read that he was 24/35, I couldn't believe it. Now, of course, with all the horizontal passes, that's going to pad the completion % and drop the YPA, but it felt like he was missing all over the place.
I watched the game a second time, the condensed version, and knowing the outcome, not being on edge about being down early, etc. I could pay better attention to how well Mitch actually played. He had like 4 bad passes. 2 that could've been touchdowns, 1 on that rollout that should've been picked, and the screen that got tipped and picked off. He also had that fumble that Arizona was super lucky on, because Mitch had a ton of daylight ahead of him. I don't see a lot of QB's that wouldn't have fumbled that ball. Hell, if you are able, watch the Vikings vs Buffalo game. Cousins handed the Bills the game with fumbles. And I've heard some people say we should've gone after Cousins!
Everyone wants him to be great NOW. Or at least by next game. Well he wont be, but Jesus fuckin Christ he's not THAT bad. He's better than Rookie Orton, and idk how many meatballs were saying "He won 10 games!"
They're looking at Mahomes and Watson with jealous eyes. They don't know about Brees, or Wilson, or the fact that Aaron Rodgers didn't play for 3 years, learning the same scheme the whole time.
Remember RG3? Dak Prescott? Colin Kaepernick? Started pretty hot and regressed.
To his credit, and these two plays have gotten some press this week, that first jailbreak blitz where he looked right and Cohen was standing alone in the left flat after he released... he got a similar look later and Cohen almost went in for a touchdown. And he was very open about his mistake in pressers.cblaz11 wrote:KOP_Snake wrote:It's a strange thing. I watched the game the first time, and its like the frustration of being down 14 gets in your head. you just want Mitch to score NOW, WE NEED POINTS, and the couple of misses stick out way more than the huge completions down the field to Burton and Robinson that were really nice passes.BearButtseks wrote:Man, the offense is tough to watch. It's funny because the errant throws stick out in my mind so much that, if you asked me Trubisky's stats after the game, I'd guess he had around a 50% completion rate. When I read that he was 24/35, I couldn't believe it. Now, of course, with all the horizontal passes, that's going to pad the completion % and drop the YPA, but it felt like he was missing all over the place.
I watched the game a second time, the condensed version, and knowing the outcome, not being on edge about being down early, etc. I could pay better attention to how well Mitch actually played. He had like 4 bad passes. 2 that could've been touchdowns, 1 on that rollout that should've been picked, and the screen that got tipped and picked off. He also had that fumble that Arizona was super lucky on, because Mitch had a ton of daylight ahead of him. I don't see a lot of QB's that wouldn't have fumbled that ball. Hell, if you are able, watch the Vikings vs Buffalo game. Cousins handed the Bills the game with fumbles. And I've heard some people say we should've gone after Cousins!
Everyone wants him to be great NOW. Or at least by next game. Well he wont be, but Jesus fuckin Christ he's not THAT bad. He's better than Rookie Orton, and idk how many meatballs were saying "He won 10 games!"
They're looking at Mahomes and Watson with jealous eyes. They don't know about Brees, or Wilson, or the fact that Aaron Rodgers didn't play for 3 years, learning the same scheme the whole time.
Remember RG3? Dak Prescott? Colin Kaepernick? Started pretty hot and regressed.
I actually agree with a lot of this...I was really down on him after attending the game, but then I watched it on TV and I felt much better. He’s got some things to clean up and he needs to continue to learn this offense, but he improved his pocket presence dramatically from week 1. He made a comment after watching Rogers about just focusing on getting completions and I think he is. Next up, he’s gotta get better at identifying his hot route. He’s leaving yards on the field by not taking simple check downs...I’m much more hopeful now then I was 2 weeks ago.
My favorite quote after that game, and why I know that Mack is going into Canton, was what he said about the first quarter, "They had the momentum, and we had to go out and take it back." That quote right there tells me all I need to know about Khalil Mack. It is his goal EVERY DAMN GAME to go out and impose his will on the other team.Richie wrote:This was actually an impressive win to me. The kind of games where good teams figure out a way.
Virtually every good team, in any given season has AT LEAST one of these games where it's just like pulling teeth the entire time versus an inferior opponent. Especially on the road.
We grinded, wound up really dominating after the first quarter and got the job done.
These kind of wins build confidence. I like it.
You bring up a great point. This franchise and team needs to learn how to win again. We haven't in about a decade. Especially since that we have a young team with new coaching that needs to gel. Games like the Cards one build character.Richie wrote:This was actually an impressive win to me. The kind of games where good teams figure out a way.
Virtually every good team, in any given season has AT LEAST one of these games where it's just like pulling teeth the entire time versus an inferior opponent. Especially on the road.
We grinded, wound up really dominating after the first quarter and got the job done.
These kind of wins build confidence. I like it.
I'm trying to show you the error of your ways. Zero is perfect (only once last year and once so far this year).Bearfanuk wrote:Is a low number good or bad
