The Dreaded QB Thread...

[sportsfanrj]

Threw for 316 yards and 3 touchdowns with a passer rating of 122.5. He was not the reason the Bears lost. The defense went out and laid an egg. It's Brock flibbin Osweiler for crying out loud!!!!!!!

[Bears Whiskey Nut]

Threw for 316 yards and 3 touchdowns with a passer rating of 122.5. He was not the reason the Bears lost. The defense went out and laid an egg. It's Brock flibbin Osweiler for crying out loud!!!!!!!

No, absolutely not Biscuit's fault. But I will put it squarely on Nagy's head. If you have a gassed defense, you need to find a way to sustain a drive. Not go down and score 21 points in nine minutes. It sounds like a good idea, but in that heat, they needed more of a break. Not making excuses, and Nagy will figure that out as he becomes a more experienced HC, but he needed to be thinking about both sides of the ball in the 3Q.

[wab]

Threw for 316 yards and 3 touchdowns with a passer rating of 122.5. He was not the reason the Bears lost. The defense went out and laid an egg. It's Brock flibbin Osweiler for crying out loud!!!!!!!

No, absolutely not Biscuit's fault. But I will put it squarely on Nagy's head. If you have a gassed defense, you need to find a way to sustain a drive. Not go down and score 21 points in nine minutes. It sounds like a good idea, but in that heat, they needed more of a break. Not making excuses, and Nagy will figure that out as he becomes a more experienced HC, but he needed to be thinking about both sides of the ball in the 3Q.

I mean, that's not entirely fair. Could he have called more runs, maybe...but you can't ask your QB to NOT make plays down the field when they are there.

[Mikefive]

Threw for 316 yards and 3 touchdowns with a passer rating of 122.5. He was not the reason the Bears lost. The defense went out and laid an egg. It's Brock flibbin Osweiler for crying out loud!!!!!!!

No, absolutely not Biscuit's fault. But I will put it squarely on Nagy's head. If you have a gassed defense, you need to find a way to sustain a drive. Not go down and score 21 points in nine minutes. It sounds like a good idea, but in that heat, they needed more of a break. Not making excuses, and Nagy will figure that out as he becomes a more experienced HC, but he needed to be thinking about both sides of the ball in the 3Q.

I mean, that's not entirely fair. Could he have called more runs, maybe...but you can't ask your QB to NOT make plays down the field when they are there.

I agree. I heard similar criticism of Andy Reid over yesterday's game. "He shouldn't have scored so soon and left so much time on the clock!" And so the critics want the team--down 4 mind you--to help the defense by getting more predictable in their play calling to go to only short passes in order to run clock? That seems a little nutzo to me.

[KOP_Snake]

In the 3rd quarter is entirely too early to say "we need to slow down and not score so much." I don't think you even consider taking time of possession over points until maybe 4 minutes left in the game, and then its entirely situational.

[KOP_Snake]

Threw for 316 yards and 3 touchdowns with a passer rating of 122.5. He was not the reason the Bears lost. The defense went out and laid an egg. It's Brock flibbin Osweiler for crying out loud!!!!!!!

No, absolutely not Biscuit's fault. But I will put it squarely on Nagy's head. If you have a gassed defense, you need to find a way to sustain a drive. Not go down and score 21 points in nine minutes. It sounds like a good idea, but in that heat, they needed more of a break. Not making excuses, and Nagy will figure that out as he becomes a more experienced HC, but he needed to be thinking about both sides of the ball in the 3Q.

I mean, that's not entirely fair. Could he have called more runs, maybe...but you can't ask your QB to NOT make plays down the field when they are there.

I agree. I heard similar criticism of Andy Reid over yesterday's game. "He shouldn't have scored so soon and left so much time on the clock!" And so the critics want the team--down 4 mind you--to help the defense by getting more predictable in their play calling to go to only short passes in order to run clock? That seems a little nutzo to me.

For all we know Belichick had it all figured out.


Best case: they dont score

2nd best case: They score really fast and leave us time

Worst case: They consume the clock and score


So he lets them score fast and puts it in Brady's hands.

[BR0D1E86]

I just want to know why he routinely misses wide open WRs in the middle of the field. I don't understand it -- he had zero pressure on him.

Mahomes does it too... he did it several times last night. Young QB jitters man.

It seemed to me like he started really settling down in the pocket in the second instead of bouncing so much. And then he really threw some darts.

[Bears Whiskey Nut]

I just want to know why he routinely misses wide open WRs in the middle of the field. I don't understand it -- he had zero pressure on him.

Mahomes does it too... he did it several times last night. Young QB jitters man.

It seemed to me like he started really settling down in the pocket in the second instead of bouncing so much. And then he really threw some darts.

That's what it looked like to me as well. His feet were SO much better in the second half. It was like a tale of two QB's.

[jamus34]

Yeah and the TD pass he threw to Miller was a thing of beauty.

Not because it was a spot on pass into tight space being double-covered.

Mainly because the defense broke down and it was too easy a throw. Biscuit has missed a couple of them. He hit Miller and mostly hit him in stride so there was no question with it being a TD.

The pick was bad but the call on the TD throw was crap. Miami was blocking our guys while the ball was in the air all game on those WR screens and they didn't call it once. THAT was pissing me off.

[DaSuperfan]

Threw for 316 yards and 3 touchdowns with a passer rating of 122.5. He was not the reason the Bears lost. The defense went out and laid an egg. It's Brock flibbin Osweiler for crying out loud!!!!!!!

No, absolutely not Biscuit's fault. But I will put it squarely on Nagy's head. If you have a gassed defense, you need to find a way to sustain a drive. Not go down and score 21 points in nine minutes. It sounds like a good idea, but in that heat, they needed more of a break. Not making excuses, and Nagy will figure that out as he becomes a more experienced HC, but he needed to be thinking about both sides of the ball in the 3Q.

I don't know that I agree with this take. We scored 21 points in about 8 minutes, true. It ended up being 21-13 at one point and the Bears had a pretty long drive down to the 2 yard line. Had an apparent TD pass to Cohen, but offensive PI called on Burton. Would have been 28-13, but it wasn't. Next play Trubisky forces one into tight coverage in the end zone and it's picked off. At this point the defense should be fairly rested even with the drive ending in an INT. No excuse for not tackling Albert Wilson on a screen on the ensuing drive for the Fins.

[docc]

Score as often as possible..as quick or slow as needed//

[docc]

2018 Regular Season NFL Leaders
RK PLAYER PTS ADDED PASS RUN PENALTY TOTAL EPA QB PLAYS RAW QBR TOTAL QBR
1 Patrick Mahomes, KC 31.7 36.7 6.3 1.7 46.8 259 85.0 85.0
2 Drew Brees, NO 24.7 31.0 1.6 1.2 38.9 215 83.6 79.2
3 Jared Goff, LAR 21.8 29.2 2.3 2.9 38.1 231 79.2 78.8
4 Philip Rivers, LAC 20.0 26.3 0.3 0.4 30.3 222 78.1 78.3
5 Ryan Fitzpatrick, TB 13.4 17.1 2.4 0.4 22.5 156 77.1 75.3
6 Tom Brady, NE 17.1 23.1 3.5 1.9 31.2 241 73.2 72.2
7 Kirk Cousins, MIN 17.5 29.4 0.5 -0.0 36.9 305 69.2 69.5
8 Matt Ryan, ATL 20.1 24.8 6.2 2.5 42.1 270 74.1 68.5
9 Ben Roethlisberger, PIT 17.7 29.9 5.0 2.2 40.5 302 69.7 67.7
10 Andy Dalton, CIN 11.9 24.0 -0.1 2.5 33.5 267 65.2 62.3
11 Mitchell Trubisky, CHI 6.7 10.3 4.7 1.6 23.0 213 60.9 61.5

[Mikefive]

2018 Regular Season NFL Leaders
RK PLAYER PTS ADDED PASS RUN PENALTY TOTAL EPA QB PLAYS RAW QBR TOTAL QBR
1 Patrick Mahomes, KC 31.7 36.7 6.3 1.7 46.8 259 85.0 85.0
2 Drew Brees, NO 24.7 31.0 1.6 1.2 38.9 215 83.6 79.2
3 Jared Goff, LAR 21.8 29.2 2.3 2.9 38.1 231 79.2 78.8
4 Philip Rivers, LAC 20.0 26.3 0.3 0.4 30.3 222 78.1 78.3
5 Ryan Fitzpatrick, TB 13.4 17.1 2.4 0.4 22.5 156 77.1 75.3
6 Tom Brady, NE 17.1 23.1 3.5 1.9 31.2 241 73.2 72.2
7 Kirk Cousins, MIN 17.5 29.4 0.5 -0.0 36.9 305 69.2 69.5
8 Matt Ryan, ATL 20.1 24.8 6.2 2.5 42.1 270 74.1 68.5
9 Ben Roethlisberger, PIT 17.7 29.9 5.0 2.2 40.5 302 69.7 67.7
10 Andy Dalton, CIN 11.9 24.0 -0.1 2.5 33.5 267 65.2 62.3
11 Mitchell Trubisky, CHI 6.7 10.3 4.7 1.6 23.0 213 60.9 61.5

And it's 5 games into year two after only 13 college starts. The guy still has more room to grow.

[Hiphopopotamos]

2018 Regular Season NFL Leaders
RK PLAYER PTS ADDED PASS RUN PENALTY TOTAL EPA QB PLAYS RAW QBR TOTAL QBR
1 Patrick Mahomes, KC 31.7 36.7 6.3 1.7 46.8 259 85.0 85.0
2 Drew Brees, NO 24.7 31.0 1.6 1.2 38.9 215 83.6 79.2
3 Jared Goff, LAR 21.8 29.2 2.3 2.9 38.1 231 79.2 78.8
4 Philip Rivers, LAC 20.0 26.3 0.3 0.4 30.3 222 78.1 78.3
5 Ryan Fitzpatrick, TB 13.4 17.1 2.4 0.4 22.5 156 77.1 75.3
6 Tom Brady, NE 17.1 23.1 3.5 1.9 31.2 241 73.2 72.2
7 Kirk Cousins, MIN 17.5 29.4 0.5 -0.0 36.9 305 69.2 69.5
8 Matt Ryan, ATL 20.1 24.8 6.2 2.5 42.1 270 74.1 68.5
9 Ben Roethlisberger, PIT 17.7 29.9 5.0 2.2 40.5 302 69.7 67.7
10 Andy Dalton, CIN 11.9 24.0 -0.1 2.5 33.5 267 65.2 62.3
11 Mitchell Trubisky, CHI 6.7 10.3 4.7 1.6 23.0 213 60.9 61.5

FWIW - Trubisky is 7th in the NFL is Passer Rating.

[Knuckles]

What's crazy is he's played 1 full game and 2 1/2s at his potential in 5 games this year and he's still ranked that high. Imagine when he and the offense are more consistent.

[docc]

Note.. Rodgers not on this list..

Amazing QB..GB may have wasted one of the GOAT..

[G08]

Not my post:

Dan Orlovsky was on ESPN 1000 and he was saying that the deep shots to Gabriel were awesome, but the best throws Mitch made were his throws to Allen Robinson.



-On the TD throw, he has a zone defense with a box setting up around Robinson on the goal line, which you can do in the redzone because the safeties do not have to get deep. That throw needs to be out before Robinson settles down and with 0 hesitation as the box collapses in around Robinson. Trubisky knows he is throwing it pre snap as he recognizes zone and he sticks it in with 0 hesitation.



-On the 22 yard back shoulder on the sideline the CB drops and a flat defender comes underneath the route and Orlovsky said most NFL QBs won't even throw the route because technically it is covered with Robinson running a fly route into the CB at the goal line. He said what made it so impressive was that Mitch reads the coverage and goes back shoulder leading Robinson away from the over top defender, but what he said was the most encouraging thing was that Robinson saw the same thing and immediately adjusted in the exact same way.



It really appears that Robinson and Mitch are getting into a groove as the TB TD, Mia TD, and Mia backshoulder were all really nice reads, throws, routes and adjustments by both of them.

[The All Night Lights]

2018 Regular Season NFL Leaders
RK PLAYER PTS ADDED PASS RUN PENALTY TOTAL EPA QB PLAYS RAW QBR TOTAL QBR
1 Patrick Mahomes, KC 31.7 36.7 6.3 1.7 46.8 259 85.0 85.0
2 Drew Brees, NO 24.7 31.0 1.6 1.2 38.9 215 83.6 79.2
3 Jared Goff, LAR 21.8 29.2 2.3 2.9 38.1 231 79.2 78.8
4 Philip Rivers, LAC 20.0 26.3 0.3 0.4 30.3 222 78.1 78.3
5 Ryan Fitzpatrick, TB 13.4 17.1 2.4 0.4 22.5 156 77.1 75.3
6 Tom Brady, NE 17.1 23.1 3.5 1.9 31.2 241 73.2 72.2
7 Kirk Cousins, MIN 17.5 29.4 0.5 -0.0 36.9 305 69.2 69.5
8 Matt Ryan, ATL 20.1 24.8 6.2 2.5 42.1 270 74.1 68.5
9 Ben Roethlisberger, PIT 17.7 29.9 5.0 2.2 40.5 302 69.7 67.7
10 Andy Dalton, CIN 11.9 24.0 -0.1 2.5 33.5 267 65.2 62.3
11 Mitchell Trubisky, CHI 6.7 10.3 4.7 1.6 23.0 213 60.9 61.5

And it's 5 games into year two after only 13 college starts. The guy still has more room to grow.

Agreed. I give players 3 years, if by the end of the 3rd year they are still looking shaky, then by all means

[docc]

Mitchell Trubisky vs. Jets (ESPN projection: 18.6): Mahomes, Shmahomes ... As great as young Patrick is, there's not a hotter QB in fantasy right now than Trubisky. Since Week 4, he is averaging more than 34 fantasy points per game and ranks second with 11 TD passes in that span (despite being on bye one of those weeks). In fact, he has the most points in a three-game span by any QB since 2012 (Cam Newton). He actually has more rushing yards this season than LeSean McCoy and now gets a Jets team that is giving up almost 290 passing yards per game on the road and has allowed multiple TD passes in four straight.

[mmmc_35]

I like fantasy football, but it ruins fans perspective on players.

[Moriarty]

I like fantasy football, but it ruins fans perspective on players.

I despise fantasy football, because it ruins fans' perspective on players.

[Boris13c]

I like fantasy football, but it ruins fans perspective on players.

I despise fantasy football, because it ruins fans' perspective on players.

I'm with Moriarty

the only valid fantasy football IMO is the Lingerie Football League

[G08]

I like fantasy football, but it ruins fans perspective on players.

I despise fantasy football, because it ruins fans' perspective on players.

I'm with Moriarty

the only valid fantasy football IMO is the Lingerie Football League

Moriarty and Boris13c be like...

[Bears Whiskey Nut]

I like fantasy football, but it ruins fans perspective on players.

I despise fantasy football, because it ruins fans' perspective on players.

I'm with Moriarty

the only valid fantasy football IMO is the Lingerie Football League

I will admit. The Lingerie Football games are entertaining. They would be much better though, if there were more uniform malfunctions.

[docc]

nope..never got into fantasy football,,,

[EricTighe]

Trubisky seems to have everything needed in a QB except for one thing. Accuracy and that scares me.

It has been proven year after year that it can not be taught. Halas, I am hoping it is just him being young and having happy feet. I just ordered his jersey.

[wab]

Trubisky seems to have everything needed in a QB except for one thing. Accuracy and that scares me.

It has been proven year after year that it can not be taught. Halas, I am hoping it is just him being young and having happy feet. I just ordered his jersey.

He’s accurate AF when his feet are set right.

[VA_Mountain_Bear]

Trubisky seems to have everything needed in a QB except for one thing. Accuracy and that scares me.

It has been proven year after year that it can not be taught. Halas, I am hoping it is just him being young and having happy feet. I just ordered his jersey.

He’s accurate AF when his feet are set right.

^ This 100%. What do you mean he isn't accurate? He's made some amazing throws in his 17-18 starts. He's also made rookie throws. What Wab said is dead on, it's about his mechanics. When he sets his feet and steps into a throw he can toss anything on the field.

[Bears Whiskey Nut]

Trubisky seems to have everything needed in a QB except for one thing. Accuracy and that scares me.

It has been proven year after year that it can not be taught. Halas, I am hoping it is just him being young and having happy feet. I just ordered his jersey.

He’s accurate AF when his feet are set right.

I realize that the TB defense is bad, but they are professionals. I believe we were afforded a sneak peak at who Trubisky can be when he puts it all together. He was really accurate, and threw a gorgeous ball against the Bucs. The reason. He had really good footwork the whole game.

[southdakbearfan]

Trubisky seems to have everything needed in a QB except for one thing. Accuracy and that scares me.

It has been proven year after year that it can not be taught. Halas, I am hoping it is just him being young and having happy feet. I just ordered his jersey.

He’s accurate AF when his feet are set right.

This a million times over. I don't even need to see the pass, just watching his feet you know whether it's a completion or not. 100% correctable and has more to do with being comfortable in the offense than anything. He looked much better and set up his feet much better the second half.

He is making the right reads and throws, it's just getting his feet settled down.