Richie wrote:Chitex312 wrote:When you have an organization that hasn't had a top 10 franchise quarterback ever since it's onset (ok, maybe Sid Luckman was one) and you completely whiff on drafting a talent like Mahomes or a Watson AFTER moving up to the #2 spot, the jury is STILL out on Ryan Pace and the front office. A lot of people have told me, Pace had to run out and get a guy like Khalil Mack to sure up the defense this year to cover his behind in drafting Trubisky so that "it doesn't seem as bad." There is a lot of truth to that--solidifying the defense is necessary when you don't have a reliable QB.
It's way too early to tell "how we like Ryan Pace" at this point. As Bears fans, we've been plagued in our own division by quarterback play, namely by the rivals to the north in Favre and Rodgers. When you get a chance to FINALLY draft a quarterback who is a sure talent, you would hope a GM would be able to finally solidify that position fully knowing the history of the Chicago Bears.
As of right now, it's a wait and see situation. I think our top rated defense, #1 scoring defense, and Nagy's play calling have protected Trubisky's development and reputation as a number 2 overall pick. I'd like to see Trubisky lead the Bears to several game winning drives and putting up decent numbers against top defenses around the league before I can call him a franchise QB for YEARS to come. If not, we better hope for a top rated defense with minimal injuries and several play makers on offense on a CONSISTENT basis for the next 5-10 years.
This post is confusing to me.
You're not sold on Trubisky. So, that means you just completely dismiss everything he's done with the rest of the team? That's all just "covering his ass". Lol... Gee, I bet there's a couple dozen other fan-bases out there who wish they had a GM capable of "covering his ass" like Pace.
To completely dismiss Pace's job with the personnel and coaching staff, as a whole - simply because you're "not sold yet" on Trubisky. That is absurd, I am sorry.
FWIW - I also must have missed where Watson is blowing away Trubisky. It sure doesn't seem that way from where I sit. I won't dispute that Mahomes is lighting things up at an unprecedented level, but Watson and Trubisky have fairly similar numbers. Not to mention, they have similar strengths/downfalls. I would say that they've been very comparable to this point.
Pace really has done a fantastic job especially given the hole he had to climb out of. Fox wasn't his hire. Not much to speak of in terms of inherited talent. Look at what he has done since then.
No doubt there have been some swings and misses (Kevin White being a huge one and let's see how Floyd progresses), but his positive contributions easily outweigh the negatives.
The Nagy hire has been transformational.
Trading up in the draft for Biscuit.
The Mack trade.
There have been serious home runs in the later rounds of the draft: Goldman, Amos, Howard, Jackson, Cohen, Daniels, (My Guy) Anthony Miller, and Nichols (who has shown flashes from time to time).
Someone could make the argument that the Biscuit trade was a necessity. We needed a young franchise QB.
The Mack trade wasn't NECESSARY (we weren't in a defensive crisis; we had a top 10 defense prior), but it obviously turned an above average unit into an elite one and that impact was evident immediately. Pace saw the once-in-a-lifetime opportunity to add a modern day Lawrence Taylor and went out and did it.
Nobody had us at this level going into the season.
I don't see what the criticism is of Pace at this point besides a few busted picks that every GM in the league makes.
In terms of Biscuit, this is really year 1, we're not going to know for sure until year 3 what we really have with him. If he makes even marginal improvements from where he's at right now, I'll be ecstatic.
