KOP_Snake wrote:Pagan wrote:KOP_Snake wrote:Bears Whiskey Nut wrote:wab wrote:I don't think there was zero intention of being competitive. I think they were expected to be competitive, but I don't they were expected to win a lot.
It was a "Hey, get this team and locker room right, we aren't worried about wins right now. You have three years...but f you win, you have more."
I think the wild cards in Fox's tenure were 1) losing Gase after the first year as OC, and 2) Glennon being as God-awful as he was. I truly believe Pace though he was, at the very least, getting a servicable journeyman QB in The Giraffe. He couldn't have possibly known he would be that bad.
Weird how a lot of fans knew it but there's no way he could know it.
I'm sure he aware of the risk.
Saying "all of the fans knew he would suck" is super easy considering the (mostly justified) level of pessimism surrounding Bears fans.
It's ALWAYS easier to expect the worst in sports, as in life.
Whatever man. Pace blew it on that. The best defense for Pace in that move is to speculate that it was just a draft smokescreen, that it wasn't a "real" signing. That it was a $15 million fake out. Its not his only move to be judged by, but its a clearly goes in the "against" column in Pace arguments, and saying "there's no way he could've seen that coming" is just apologist drivel.
KOP,
I think you're totally missing my point & the use of quotation marks.
1st: I don't know who you're quoting.. but it's certainly NOT me who said, "there's no way he could've seen that coming"!
You can't even paraphrase what I said to equate that, as I did from what you clearly wrote.
#2: There was every reason to believe that Glennon was that Chase Daniels style steady but not spectacular back up QB that, yes.. was scheduled to make as much as Cutler was making for 1 year AND reasons to believe that he would've made a better mentor to what Pace knew was going to be a newly drafted future franchise QB.
Glennon simply couldn't handle the pressure.
That's on Glennon.
Ultimately you're only proving my point really.
You're continuing that lame, played out, over simplified sports fan argument of.. either totally for or against a player/Coach/GM.
Real life doesn't work in such extremes.
Rational thinking isn't "apologist drivel".
As for your "wild card" thoughts on Fox's tenure...
I 100% agree. I would also add to your well thought out points that the 3 years of record setting injuries played a very large roll to his demise as well.