WEEK 7 // Bears lose 38-31 to Patriots

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Today’s injury report:

DNP: Mack (ankle), Robinson II (groin)

Limited: Amukamara (hamstring), Cooper Sr. (hamstring), Kush (neck)

Most concerning to me is Robinson’s groin, those can last months. He is a big threat and always comes up big when you need him.
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I predict the Pats D focus on shutting down Cohen and disguise their coverages and also pressure Mitchell causing him to falter. I predict the Pat's O will do whatever is need to disrupt the Bear's pass rush and constantly challenge our secondary.

I hope the field plays a factor in the Pat's passing game. I hope our D comes out hungry and pissed. I hope Mitchell comes out confident and accurate on the deep ball and I hope Nagy coaches with a chip on his shoulder.

I hope for a lot but I don't expect much.

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We win big. I think we were looking ahead at the Patsies during our Bye week. Maybe why our offense came out and got a goose egg in the first half against Dolphins. I think we match up great against what they have on offense. Trevathon, Floyd, and Smith can run man to man with Gronk should be fun.

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I hope this is one of those games where Brady just looks off and uncomfortable. It doesn't happen often, but when it does the entire team falls apart.
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I'd really like to see Fangio stick Fuller on Gronkowski... I just don't think it'll happen. Likely will be Amos or Smith if I had to guess.
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G08 wrote:I'd really like to see Fangio stick Fuller on Gronkowski... I just don't think it'll happen. Likely will be Amos or Smith if I had to guess.
I would love to see the athletic Floyd on him all day to see if we could shut him down with one guy.

I think we need Fuller on Gordon.
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EricTighe wrote:
G08 wrote:I'd really like to see Fangio stick Fuller on Gronkowski... I just don't think it'll happen. Likely will be Amos or Smith if I had to guess.
I would love to see the athletic Floyd on him all day to see if we could shut him down with one guy.

I think we need Fuller on Gordon.
This^^^ Gronk is a bit hobbled. I think Floyd could hang with him. That would be a fun matchup.


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EricTighe wrote:
G08 wrote:I'd really like to see Fangio stick Fuller on Gronkowski... I just don't think it'll happen. Likely will be Amos or Smith if I had to guess.
I would love to see the athletic Floyd on him all day to see if we could shut him down with one guy.

I think we need Fuller on Gordon.
Oooo good call! Didn't even think about Floyd!!
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wab wrote:I hope this is one of those games where Brady just looks off and uncomfortable. It doesn't happen often, but when it does the entire team falls apart.
And when it does...it’s BECAUSE he’s being pressured! This plays right into our strength. Brady is GARBAGE under pressure! If we can get constant pressure, hits, sacks we can win this game.
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I just hope we fucking jam their WRs at the LOS and force Brady to hold onto the ball a tick longer. All these free releases combined with his accuracy will kill us unless we get lucky.
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donkeykong wrote:
wab wrote:I hope this is one of those games where Brady just looks off and uncomfortable. It doesn't happen often, but when it does the entire team falls apart.
And when it does...it’s BECAUSE he’s being pressured! This plays right into our strength. Brady is GARBAGE under pressure! If we can get constant pressure, hits, sacks we can win this game.
The key is to make Brady scramble outside of the pocket, not even necessarily getting sacks - because he can't really move well laterally, which gives us an advantage. If Brady has all day in the pocket - game over, he will dice us up.

I anticipate Brady will start the game by enforcing the quick passing game. Bears defenders need to play press-man coverage, with the DL waiting to jump the passing lanes looking for tipped ball opportunities. Problem is Fangio hasn't been playing press-man coverage all that much, he's been playing a lot of zone coverage recently. It'll be interesting to see if he mixes it up. The Pats will also use the play action game to generate longer pass plays, that's why if the Bears defense let Michel run wild, they're going to be in for a long afternoon.
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Close defensive battle but we give Brady the ball back with too much time and only a 3 point lead. 24-20 Massholes.
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G08 wrote:I'd really like to see Fangio stick Fuller on Gronkowski... I just don't think it'll happen. Likely will be Amos or Smith if I had to guess.
I don’t know, I think you’re going to see multiple players lined up on Gronk.The pats had Gronk lined up everywhere, as a blocker, pulling, in motion. He was a beast in the run blocking also.
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They also lined him up as a decoy in jet sweep concepts.
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I think Floyd is our best matchup to Gronkowski. He has the height and speed to keep up with him.
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Hi guys, I'm a Pats fan and come in peace. I've seen quite a few posts referring to NE's being 0-2 on the road and/or losing to Detroit. The Patriots, for the last 5 years, are known for starting up slow. Belichick basically threats the first 4 games as an extension to the pre season. Their defense IS BAD. But the offense right now is just getting in gears. The return of Edelman and the addition of Gordon has freed up Gronkowsky and opened the run game with James White and our new kid Michel.

NE is a much different team than when the season started. Having said that, I don't expect an easy game or or win. I do expect my Pats to bring a great challenge to the Bears. Hoping for a great game !

Good luck Chicago !
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bearsfaninaz wrote:I think Floyd is our best matchup to Gronkowski. He has the height and speed to keep up with him.
I'm not sure we have a good matchup for Gronk, but I think you're smoking something if you feel Floyd is our best option. Gronk will elbow Floyd out of the way and have his way with him. In a drop back zone is the only way to use Floyd in coverage. Let him guard a space and try to get a hand on the ball. I'm thinking Jackson would be a better man to man matchup.
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Steve Grogan wrote:Hi guys, I'm a Pats fan and come in peace. I've seen quite a few posts referring to NE's being 0-2 on the road and/or losing to Detroit. The Patriots, for the last 5 years, are known for starting up slow. Belichick basically threats the first 4 games as an extension to the pre season. Their defense IS BAD. But the offense right now is just getting in gears. The return of Edelman and the addition of Gordon has freed up Gronkowsky and opened the run game with James White and our new kid Michel.

NE is a much different team than when the season started. Having said that, I don't expect an easy game or or win. I do expect my Pats to bring a great challenge to the Bears. Hoping for a great game !

Good luck Chicago !
Hey Grogan. Welcome. None of us are taking the Pats lightly. Especially with a healthy Brady (AKA The GOAT). We are certainly aware of the futility of the Pats defense, however I don’t think any one on this board thinks we can win a shootout. We need to control the clock, and keep #12 on the bench.


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I just hope the Bears come out pumped up for the game.

Same as the Patriots game balls :D
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I think it's simple. Brady is average when he is getting hit. If they hit him a lot we win easy. If not, we don't.

We have the defense to hit him and he has a suspect O'line at best.
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bearsfaninaz wrote:I think Floyd is our best matchup to Gronkowski. He has the height and speed to keep up with him.
After watching tons of film on him, Gronk will man handle Floyd, he’s simply not physically strong enough. I think most are trying to match a player to Gronk in the passing game. The pats used him more as a blocker/decoy vs. KC. I’m expecting the same vs. the bears. Best way to slow down Gronk in the passing game is to disrupt him at the line, this will take away the timing of the play and Brady will quickly move to his next read.


The pats offense can block well, run well and pass well. This game will be a huge test for the bears defense but they will create opportunities. The bears offense must control the clock, limited mistakes and score at every opportunity, even if it’s field goals. They cannot squander redzone trips.
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Steve Grogan wrote:Hi guys, I'm a Pats fan and come in peace. I've seen quite a few posts referring to NE's being 0-2 on the road and/or losing to Detroit. The Patriots, for the last 5 years, are known for starting up slow. Belichick basically threats the first 4 games as an extension to the pre season. Their defense IS BAD. But the offense right now is just getting in gears. The return of Edelman and the addition of Gordon has freed up Gronkowsky and opened the run game with James White and our new kid Michel.

NE is a much different team than when the season started. Having said that, I don't expect an easy game or or win. I do expect my Pats to bring a great challenge to the Bears. Hoping for a great game !

Good luck Chicago !
Welcome aboard! This game is a great barometer for the Bears to see where we are against a consistent, year-in year-out, high quality team.

I just don't see the Patriots outscoring us unless its 100+ degrees for the game and the defense is gassed like in Miami; which it won't be.

Belichick is probably the greatest coach in the history of the NFL and I'm sure he has plans on how to handle our offense, but we just have so many weapons and the NE defense is nothing special. I also wonder if NE playing KC previously helps us because we have film on how NE's defense handled a very similar offense.
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Bears Whiskey Nut wrote:Especially with a healthy Brady (AKA The GOAT)
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This is what people are referring to when they call Brady the GOAT, right?

Dude couldn't sniff Aaron Rodgers' jock :D
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Couple more thoughts...

I'm expecting the Pats to run the ball and work the short passing game. Belichick would be a fool to not test our tackling, and really it will be on Fangio to find a way to take those routes away. My bet (fear?) is that he plays it safe and the Pats will drive down the field... they'll get a couple TDs because they are that good, and we'll get a few stops for FGs because we do have a solid defense. Question is can we get a turnover or score on special teams? I believe it will take something like that for us to leave Solider Field with a W. Defensively, I think Belichick is going to focus on taking Gabriel and/or Cohen out of the game, so I expect a lot of Jordan Howard (please let this be his breakout game this season) and for some reason I think Kevin White is going to make a big positive play for us.
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Mack(ankle), Robinson(groin) and Callahan(ankle) are listed as questionable. Mack already said he’s playing and he’s never missed a game so I’m not worried about him. The bears will need both Robinson and Callahan but Callahan not being on the field for this game would be huge for the pats. With Callahan injuring his ankle yesterday this one has me a little worried if he plays.
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So no Amukamara on the injury report???
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G08 wrote:Couple more thoughts...

I'm expecting the Pats to run the ball and work the short passing game. Belichick would be a fool to not test our tackling, and really it will be on Fangio to find a way to take those routes away. My bet (fear?) is that he plays it safe and the Pats will drive down the field... they'll get a couple TDs because they are that good, and we'll get a few stops for FGs because we do have a solid defense. Question is can we get a turnover or score on special teams? I believe it will take something like that for us to leave Solider Field with a W. Defensively, I think Belichick is going to focus on taking Gabriel and/or Cohen out of the game, so I expect a lot of Jordan Howard (please let this be his breakout game this season) and for some reason I think Kevin White is going to make a big positive play for us.
I think a big key will be how we handle their run game. We've been good against the run all year until the 100 degree heat index game. So I think we'll do well when it's around 50. I think the D is going to come out with something to prove after the Miami debacle. I think Leonard Floyd will record his first sack this week.

I keep hearing people say they're going to take Cohen away. But I'm not too sure how you do that outside of playing with more DBs. But then don't you just sub Howard in and pound them? If they take away a small guy, then AR should go nuts. It will be an interesting chess match for sure. I'm just not so sure that their D has the arsenal to take away much without leaving other guys running free. Broken record... I'd love to see us establish Howard early. We really haven't tried that, so NE won't be expecting it. Do it until they stop it then go play action. Play some more old fashioned football. Of course, it's Nagy. So pretty unlikely.
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Mikefive wrote:So no Amukamara on the injury report???
Nope, he was listed as full participation!

With Callahan questionable and Cooper out, looks like we might see McManis :o


I feel one player the bears need to have a big games is Roquan Smith. He has all the tools to slow down the pats offense.
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According to Rapoport Gronk did not travel to Chicago because of a back injury sustained yesterday and is now doubtful to play. He is not officially out yet.
Certainly would be good news if he doesn't play.
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