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There's no way in HELL any fan will accept him on this team next year.
While I agree, at the end of the day the team doesn't give a shit what fans want when it comes to the roster or personnel moves.

It all comes down to his contract, if they think he will bounce back, or if they think they can find a suitable replacement that makes it worth eating his salary.

They don't give the fans a second thought.
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Exactly.... top that off with a tight cap situation this off season and he is most likely back. I would bring in two rookies and have them all battle it out in camp though. If one of the rooks looks good and Doink still has the yips, cut his ass. But you really cannot afford to allocate $7M+ of your cap to a kicker when you only have 38 players under contract and $20M to work with.
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NFL changes Bears' Cody Parkey's miss to a block
Kicker Cody Parkey has been getting roasted for missing the potentially game-winning field goal in the Chicago Bears' playoff loss to the Philadelphia Eagles. It turns out he wasn't totally to blame.

The NFL officially changed the 43-yard miss to a block by Eagles defensive tackle Treyvon Hester on Monday. The lineman barely got a finger on the ball, but it changed the trajectory enough that the kick hit the upright, dropped down to the crossbar and then out.

"Me and Haloti [Ngata] ... we got penetration, got the hand up like coach always says," Hester said, according to the Philadelphia Daily News. "Tipped off my fingertips. Felt good ... [but] actually, I thought I didn't get enough of it, I thought it was going to go in. When I saw it going in, I turned back around [away from the goal posts]. Then I heard everybody screaming, I was like, oh, [expletive] ... he missed it."

In the immediate aftermath of the game, it didn't appear that many people picked up on the fact that Hester got a hand on the ball. Parkey, who had been under fire in Chicago well before the game for missing a league-high 10 kicks during the regular season, didn't shy away from facing the media after the contest.

"You can't make this up," Parkey said. "I feel terrible. I let the team down. That's on me. I have to own it. I have to be a man. Unfortunately, that's the way it went today."

follow the link and watch the video ... Eagle player did get his hand on the ball

doesn't change the result, but for credit to be given to a defensive play rather than it being a choke job makes it a bit more palatable
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The tip still changes nothing because he made the first one and saw that he barely made (a 43) so he changed the trajectory lower which allowed the defender to graze it with his finger. That's still on the kicker. A 43 should not be a kick you barely make distance wise so much so you kick the next kick lower to confiscate. The guy sucks...

I get the cap thing here but if he's our kicker next year and messes up like this again some nut job fan will kill him for real. Imagine the same scenario and now we have the Bills reputation "laces out" BS lol. I can see it happen this guy Parkey has shown no sign of being able to shrug off something like this.

The Bills should have won what like 2 - 3 SBs if it wasn't for their kicker? So there's been a scenario played out in the past that's similar to this one with the Bears or at least could be if not addressed...
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wab wrote:
There's no way in HELL any fan will accept him on this team next year.
While I agree, at the end of the day the team doesn't give a shit what fans want when it comes to the roster or personnel moves.

It all comes down to his contract, if they think he will bounce back, or if they think they can find a suitable replacement that makes it worth eating his salary.

They don't give the fans a second thought.
Nor should they. Fans are fickle and don't have anywhere close to the information they have.
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There's no way in HELL any fan will accept him on this team next year.
While I agree, at the end of the day the team doesn't give a shit what fans want when it comes to the roster or personnel moves.

It all comes down to his contract, if they think he will bounce back, or if they think they can find a suitable replacement that makes it worth eating his salary.

They don't give the fans a second thought.
Nor should they. Fans are fickle and don't have anywhere close to the information they have.
Hard to really hide anything with a kicker... I'm sure any fan can see with their own eyes the problems with him. What else can it be? Mental issues? Pretty easy to see that as well from your couch at home. It's not like he's the QB or MLB and there's a ton of other circumstances involved on the field. We saw with every kick he's missed (for the most part) the snap and hold were fine. The rest is all on him.
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In the category of... Post that I probably... no... really Really REALLY shouldn't hit Submit on...

On the Hoge and Jahns Podcast Eagles postgame, Adam Hoge pointed out that Robbie Gould was in a Soldier skybox for the game and that he becomes a free agent this offseason.
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Knuckles wrote:
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wab wrote:
There's no way in HELL any fan will accept him on this team next year.
While I agree, at the end of the day the team doesn't give a shit what fans want when it comes to the roster or personnel moves.

It all comes down to his contract, if they think he will bounce back, or if they think they can find a suitable replacement that makes it worth eating his salary.

They don't give the fans a second thought.
Nor should they. Fans are fickle and don't have anywhere close to the information they have.
Hard to really hide anything with a kicker... I'm sure any fan can see with their own eyes the problems with him. What else can it be? Mental issues? Pretty easy to see that as well from your couch at home. It's not like he's the QB or MLB and there's a ton of other circumstances involved on the field. We saw with every kick he's missed (for the most part) the snap and hold were fine. The rest is all on him.
Is the guy mentally weak or strong? Does he have a good attitude? How does he practice every day? Does he do everything he can to improve? Does he listen to coaching? Is he stable outside of work? What information do they have about all of the alternatives, mental and physical?

Yeah. No reason to know anything else about the guy. That's irrelevant. All you need to know to make an effective judgement is what happens on TV. :roll:
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Mikefive wrote:In the category of... Post that I probably... no... really Really REALLY shouldn't hit Submit on...

On the Hoge and Jahns Podcast Eagles postgame, Adam Hoge pointed out that Robbie Gould was in a Soldier skybox for the game and that he becomes a free agent this offseason.
Hah yeah I saw that... As much as I love Gould I think they need to find a young guy with a strong leg to kick up in Soldier Field. That place is a nightmare at any given time to kick the ball. Need another Butler that guy was good and mentally one tough SOB. Whatever happened to his kid is he still in the NFL? I remember he was here for a tryout what the last offseason?
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Mikefive wrote:
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There's no way in HELL any fan will accept him on this team next year.
While I agree, at the end of the day the team doesn't give a shit what fans want when it comes to the roster or personnel moves.

It all comes down to his contract, if they think he will bounce back, or if they think they can find a suitable replacement that makes it worth eating his salary.

They don't give the fans a second thought.
Nor should they. Fans are fickle and don't have anywhere close to the information they have.
Hard to really hide anything with a kicker... I'm sure any fan can see with their own eyes the problems with him. What else can it be? Mental issues? Pretty easy to see that as well from your couch at home. It's not like he's the QB or MLB and there's a ton of other circumstances involved on the field. We saw with every kick he's missed (for the most part) the snap and hold were fine. The rest is all on him.
Is the guy mentally weak or strong? Does he have a good attitude? How does he practice every day? Does he do everything he can to improve? Does he listen to coaching? Is he stable outside of work? What information do they have about all of the alternatives, mental and physical?

Yeah. No reason to know anything else about the guy. That's irrelevant. All you need to know to make an effective judgement is what happens on TV. :roll:
None of that matters with a kicker man. Hate to say it. They don't need to know the playbook, they don't need to be work out warriors all they need to do is kick the damn ball. And, he's proven he hasn't a real strong leg and he's proven he gets rattled and can't mentally turn it around. I mean 4 post hits in one game and now this. I don't need insight from the coaches or Dr. Phill to see any of this.
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I could understand him seeing a sports psychologist this offseason.
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As angry as I am with Parkey after this season, hitting the post 5 times in the regular season is an absolute fluke.
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wab wrote:As angry as I am with Parkey after this season, hitting the post 5 times in the regular season is an absolute fluke.
You’re saying next year they’ll all just sail wide and miss altogether?
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This Might Be the Reason Cody Parkey Hits the Goal Post So Often
Whether the ball was tipped or not, one things for sure…Cody Parkey has a propensity of hitting the Goal Post. Why, well our friends at 12 UP got hold of this practice video posted on Instagram by Cody Parkey. Apparently, Cody works on his accuracy by PRACTICING HITTING POLES. In fact, in 2016 he posted a video of himself nailing a light pole. Above the Heart of the NFL compiled some clips of the actual Goal Post Doinks.

follow the link to see the video

so, the suggestion is he might be subconsciously programming himself to hit the posts because he practices accuracy doing just that - hitting posts
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Boris13c wrote:This Might Be the Reason Cody Parkey Hits the Goal Post So Often
Whether the ball was tipped or not, one things for sure…Cody Parkey has a propensity of hitting the Goal Post. Why, well our friends at 12 UP got hold of this practice video posted on Instagram by Cody Parkey. Apparently, Cody works on his accuracy by PRACTICING HITTING POLES. In fact, in 2016 he posted a video of himself nailing a light pole. Above the Heart of the NFL compiled some clips of the actual Goal Post Doinks.

follow the link to see the video

so, the suggestion is he might be subconsciously programming himself to hit the posts because he practices accuracy doing just that - hitting posts
Hmmm. That's super interesting.
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Karma? You punish the poles, so the poles punish back?
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Eh not buying the logic, Robbie Gould used to warm up by hitting goal posts as well.
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southdakbearfan wrote:He is gonna be here. Almost 6 mill hit next year if they cut him.
I'd sure take a 6 mil cap hit to still have a season...
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G08 wrote:Eh not buying the logic, Robbie Gould used to warm up by hitting goal posts as well.
Yeah, I think it's a common enough drill for place kickers at all levels.

However, maybe there's something to how separate individuals respond to it.
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CODY PARKEY ATTEMPTS SUICIDE AFTER MISSING GAME WINNING FIELD COAL

Tuesday 1/8/2019 3:12 pm
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Cody Parkey, place kicker for the Chicago Bears was found alive after an apparent suicide attempt in his north suburban home. Mr Parkey was found standing on a chair with rope still fastened around his neck. Apparently Mr Parkey attempted to kick the chair from under him but missed the center of the chair and his foot bounced off the arm of the chair leaving Mr Parkey stuck between chair and a nearby table, unhurt.
Mr Parkey was unavailable for comment.
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I hate the contract and don't like kickers that struggle for distance but when looking at individual season FG% it's important to remember that each kick accounts for about 3 percentage points so if 2 of the 4 regular season upright hits sneak over he's at 83% and we're not having this conversation.

Now I think it'll be tough to come back from this mentally but if he shows promise there, he's a year removed from a 90%+ season and will be given a chance to revert back to his mean.
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He CANNOT be on this team next season. Screw the contract and the cap hit. This guy has repeatedly fucked up and cost us games.
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The Marshall Plan wrote:He CANNOT be on this team next season. Screw the contract and the cap hit. This guy has repeatedly fucked up and cost us games.
Really he only cost us two...Miami and the wild card game, but your overall point remains. The Bears are in a tough spot. He was bad all season.

As much as I loathe giving credence to anything Hub says, he wonders how cutting Parkey will impact the locker room after preaching family and brotherhood and selflessly having each others backs all season.

It's a good point.
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wab wrote:
The Marshall Plan wrote:He CANNOT be on this team next season. Screw the contract and the cap hit. This guy has repeatedly fucked up and cost us games.
Really he only cost us two...Miami and the wild card game, but your overall point remains. The Bears are in a tough spot. He was bad all season.

As much as I loathe giving credence to anything Hub says, he wonders how cutting Parkey will impact the locker room after preaching family and brotherhood and selflessly having each others backs all season.

It's a good point.
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wab wrote:
The Marshall Plan wrote:He CANNOT be on this team next season. Screw the contract and the cap hit. This guy has repeatedly fucked up and cost us games.
Really he only cost us two...Miami and the wild card game, but your overall point remains. The Bears are in a tough spot. He was bad all season.

As much as I loathe giving credence to anything Hub says, he wonders how cutting Parkey will impact the locker room after preaching family and brotherhood and selflessly having each others backs all season.

It's a good point.
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ARKUSH: What's that old "Naked City" intro, Bob? There are eight million stories in the City of New York and this has been one of them? There will be eight million stories about the 2018 Chicago Bears in the coming days, weeks and months, and the first thousand or two will all be about Cody Parkey. Parkey is not THE reason the Bears lost their wild-card game to the Eagles, but he obviously blew his chance to be the hero. Once Bears fanatics, I mean fans, get over their disappointment and outrage, we should hope they would grasp that very important distinction. The Bears do still have a critical decision to make on Parkey, though. Forget his contract, the uprights and the fact he deserves better than the way Bears fans have treated him so far. Is there any way the Bears can bring Parkey back knowing the distractions and added pressures it will put on his teammates with his mere presence?

LEGERE: My best guess right now is, “No way.” No kicker in the NFL missed more FG tries than Parkey, who was 23-for-30 during the regular season. Four other kickers missed seven times; two had better percentages than Parkey and two were worse. However, the Bears are already into the 26-year-old Parkey for $5.5 million, and his $3.5 million base next year is fully guaranteed. That’s a lot of loot to pay someone for one year. The league is full of kickers who washed out on one team and then had successful careers elsewhere, and Parkey could be one of them. But the Bears are his fourth team in five years, which isn’t a good sign. The bottom line for the Bears is this: Was Parkey’s off year (76.7 on FG attempts) in 2018, just that, one bad season? Or is his 86.4 percent accuracy rate over the previous four seasons more indicative of the kind of kicker he is?


ARKUSH: You know, Bob, I get all you're saying, and they're all sound football points, but I'm just not sure that is what this will come down to. There is every reason to suggest Parkey will come back and have a good year kicking the football somewhere, but the Bears could be damned if they do and damned if they don't. Which will be the lesser risk? If you cut Parkey, what kind of message does it send to the players in the locker room after you built your culture around the brotherhood of players -- until they miss a big kick? But how much extra pressure are you putting on every player every time Parkey goes out to kick, with each guy waiting for him to miss again? It seems the right football move is to move on from him regardless of whether you think he can be a good kicker again or not.

LEGERE: Hub, maybe I’m just too nice of a guy, something I’ve rarely been accused of, but I think the Bears should bring in competition and let Parkey try to hang on to his job. If he can withstand that kind of pressure, then I think he’s worth a second chance. That would give him the chance to demonstrate the kind of mental toughness he’s going to need if he remains in Chicago. Your point about the culture Nagy has built is well taken. He frequently refers to the team as a family, and you don’t boot someone out of a family because they’re going through a rough time. It was actually Lovie Smith who said that, back in 2006, the last time the Bears went to the Super Bowl. His kicker that year was Robbie Gould, who hit 32 of 36 FG attempts (88.9 percent).
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docc wrote:CODY PARKEY ATTEMPTS SUICIDE AFTER MISSING GAME WINNING FIELD COAL

Tuesday 1/8/2019 3:12 pm
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Cody Parkey, place kicker for the Chicago Bears was found alive after an apparent suicide attempt in his north suburban home. Mr Parkey was found standing on a chair with rope still fastened around his neck. Apparently Mr Parkey attempted to kick the chair from under him but missed the center of the chair and his foot bounced off the arm of the chair leaving Mr Parkey stuck between chair and a nearby table, unhurt.
Mr Parkey was unavailable for comment.
Wait... what?

Clearly this didn't happen - so I am assuming it's a joke?
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I listened to Stacey Dales detail what she saw in the stadium and once Parkey missed that kick, she said NUMEROUS Bears players threw their helmets on the ground or at the bench. Other players were up in arms, Tarik Cohen burst into tears.

Trust me, I'm sure he's their brother but they will understand Pace owes it to the team to have the best available talent. Cody Parkey is not it.
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