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From usually hitting the right upright to hitting the left.............................
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I'm not as sympathetic as some of you here, I want him gone and I don't care if we have to eat his $5M. How do we get around this? Find a UDFA or draft someone in the 6th or 7th round if you really like them.

You simply cannot go into next season with this asshat as your kicker. He cost us one game in the regular season, which would have given us a bye if I'm not mistaken, and then he goes and costs us a playoff game victory. People can argue the team lost the game -- fine -- but a 43 yarder is a chip-shot in today's NFL. Get him the fuck out of here.
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Yeah, the locker room needs to see him get waived. Forget about the cap $$$, show the team that regardless of your paycheck you are all going to be held accountable. Maybe we can steal that Rosas guy from the Giants.
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I'm not sympathetic in the least. Economically though, it's a tough call. Even if the Bears find a UDFA or late round pick, that guy is essentially going to cost 6 million or so.

I'll be happy as a clam if they cut his ass. I'm just saying (and preparing myself) that I'll get it if they don't.
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wab wrote:I'm not sympathetic in the least. Economically though, it's a tough call. Even if the Bears find a UDFA or late round pick, that guy is essentially going to cost 6 million or so.

I'll be happy as a clam if they cut his ass. I'm just saying (and preparing myself) that I'll get it if they don't.
Playing around with the salary cap calculator, if we cut him June 1st it is a cap hit of $4,062,500 for the season. If we go UDFA or whatever, that's another $500k on the books. I can live with that if it means I don't have to see his stupid fucking face anymore.
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Z Bear wrote:$4,062,500 = 2019 cap hit if he plays
$5,187,500 = 2019 cap hit if he is cut

Way too much for a suspect kicker to begin with
Which is why Pace can at the very least draft or bring in competition and force Parkey to win his job back.

We shouldn't assume the cost of replacing him is so high. A draftee or UDFA would make a minimum salary and I can't help but think we could find one whose FG accuracy is better than 75%.

If there was any interview all year that pissed me off no end it was Parkey defending his inconsistency by looping his PAT in with his FGs to say he was 87% accurate. He should be 95%-100% good on PAT and 87% on FGs alone.

IMHO this kid was way too willing to make excuses for himself and yesterday was another example of the results from that. Even with extra practice in SF he can't correct the flaws in his stroke that consistently cause him to push most kicks right and because that gets in his head he overcompensates and occasionally pulls one left like yesterday.

In his case it's both psychological and flaw in his technique. You can see it in many end zone shots.

And he has NOT always been a consistent PK. In the past three seasons he's 88/95/93% on PATs and 67/82/82% on FGs including yesterday. That's pretty much spot on with Connor Barth's career stats and in two of the past three seasons Parkey missed 5 and 7 FG attempt and 3 PATs twice. Only in one year in Miami has he been a 90% or better PK and even there he missed 3 PATs. Is it any wonder why Nagy goes for 2 pt. conversions so often?

In reality he's was only marginally better in Miami (90% overall) than his 87% overall here and for this we guaranteed him $9 mil? I'm sure some will disagree but as PKs go this signing was as poor as Glennon's and it will also cost us to get out from under it.

We can't win championships with a PK who struggles to make 75% of his FGs and in his entire career has made only 70% from 40 yards or more. Based on that yesterday was a disaster waiting to happen and we all had a hunch it might come down to that and once again Parkey would fail. IMHO I don't see him improving either so he's gotta go.
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In his case it's both psychological and flaw in his technique. You can see it in many end zone shots.
Out of interest and asking as a genuine question, not for the sake of being facetious... what is it that you can see in end zone shots? I'm not clued up enough with a good kicking stroke to see it without prompt.
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I'm getting tot he point where I don't care about his %. He isn't clutch. When the game is on the line, you cannot count on him. That alone makes eating his contract worth it IMO.
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If you cut Sims, Acho and Parkey, our 2019 cap goes from $19,742,452 to $26,742,452.
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G08 wrote:If you cut Sims and Parkey, our 2019 cap goes from $19,742,452 to $24,617,452.
Fixed it for you! Acho is a good 3rd OLB and special teams guy for $2M next year, leave Sam out of it!
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Since Bears cut Robbie Gould, they’ve missed 19 field goals and he’s missed 3

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Z Bear wrote:
G08 wrote:If you cut Sims and Parkey, our 2019 cap goes from $19,742,452 to $24,617,452.
Fixed it for you! Acho is a good 3rd OLB and special teams guy for $2M next year, leave Sam out of it!
He’s also 30 and isn’t the most durable. Irving is a more than adequate replacement.
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Parkey could make a hundred kicks in a row next year and it won't matter to most Bear fans...If he even misses one kick he'll get roasted now...I don't know that Pace has any choice but to move elswhere and also let Parkey get a change of scenery.
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wab wrote:
Z Bear wrote:
G08 wrote:If you cut Sims and Parkey, our 2019 cap goes from $19,742,452 to $24,617,452.
Fixed it for you! Acho is a good 3rd OLB and special teams guy for $2M next year, leave Sam out of it!
He’s also 30 and isn’t the most durable. Irving is a more than adequate replacement.
Irving rushes the passer and would be a Mack back up. Acho plays the run more and would be a Floyd back up. The wildcard is Fitts, if he has a good preseason I could see letting Acho go. Irving is also a RFA... so he is going to cost around $2M too unless they throw a low tender at him.
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G08 wrote:I'm not as sympathetic as some of you here, I want him gone and I don't care if we have to eat his $5M. How do we get around this? Find a UDFA or draft someone in the 6th or 7th round if you really like them.

You simply cannot go into next season with this asshat as your kicker. He cost us one game in the regular season, which would have given us a bye if I'm not mistaken, and then he goes and costs us a playoff game victory. People can argue the team lost the game -- fine -- but a 43 yarder is a chip-shot in today's NFL. Get him the fuck out of here.
THIS POST RIGHT HERE! 100% AGREEMENT!

Parkey CANNOT be on this team next year.

I still feel like vomiting. It's going to be awhile before I get over this one. Sadly and admittedly, as a Chicago sports fan, I've experienced more emotionally crushing losses, but this still fucking sucks. I've deleted the game from my DVR and its going to be an effort to get this out of my head.

I am SO PROUD of our new coach, Biscuit, the defense, and especially my guy Anthony Miller. I love this team and I love the overall direction we're going.
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What the actual fuck was Pace thinking? It's no Glennon albatros but good christ, who was he bidding against? Love, adore his drafting but his free agency contracts are weird.

As for Parkey, it's down to his mind now. I could see him totally crumbling but there isn't an amazing option out there we can afford (much as we'd all love Gould back). We go into the season with him and he needs to show some clutch ability before playoff time or he's bounced then. We absolutely need a plan B but, if his mind isn't shot, we've got to hope he reverts back to the mean.
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Still extremely upset over the loss.

I bet he is back next season, just a gut feeling with his contract.
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Parkay awarded the dreaded..
Scott Norwood memorial trophy..

On another note..Eagles are awarding Pokey a playoff share..
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The Marshall Plan wrote:
G08 wrote:I'm not as sympathetic as some of you here, I want him gone and I don't care if we have to eat his $5M. How do we get around this? Find a UDFA or draft someone in the 6th or 7th round if you really like them.

You simply cannot go into next season with this asshat as your kicker. He cost us one game in the regular season, which would have given us a bye if I'm not mistaken, and then he goes and costs us a playoff game victory. People can argue the team lost the game -- fine -- but a 43 yarder is a chip-shot in today's NFL. Get him the fuck out of here.
THIS POST RIGHT HERE! 100% AGREEMENT!

Parkey CANNOT be on this team next year.

I still feel like vomiting. It's going to be awhile before I get over this one. Sadly and admittedly, as a Chicago sports fan, I've experienced more emotionally crushing losses, but this still fucking sucks. I've deleted the game from my DVR and its going to be an effort to get this out of my head.

I am SO PROUD of our new coach, Biscuit, the defense, and especially my guy Anthony Miller. I love this team and I love the overall direction we're going.
Agree with all of this... There's no way in HELL any fan will accept him on this team next year. Everyone did their part this year but for him. I'm glad Parkey can find solace in god but I don't believe in god so I can still be pissed off at this chump if I want. Pace has done a hell of a job putting together a great roster but he has a little work to do still. I cannot see him not having like 5 kickers on the team going into OTAs and TC. Bring in a draft pick, a few FAs and try out a few soccer or rugby players get creative find the right guy.

Was one hell of a season though... I am disappointed but pleased at the same time. What were the damn chances of him hitting the upright let alone the outside of the crossbar. I mean I told my friend (as I'm sure a lot of you did) after he made the first "watch him hit the upright on this one". Sure enough... My friend who's not a Bear fan was astounded I called it lol. I had to explain to him what's happened earlier with this douchebag kicker.

Anyhow, here's to a solid future ahead with Da Bears!
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Knuckles wrote:
The Marshall Plan wrote:
G08 wrote:I'm not as sympathetic as some of you here, I want him gone and I don't care if we have to eat his $5M. How do we get around this? Find a UDFA or draft someone in the 6th or 7th round if you really like them.

You simply cannot go into next season with this asshat as your kicker. He cost us one game in the regular season, which would have given us a bye if I'm not mistaken, and then he goes and costs us a playoff game victory. People can argue the team lost the game -- fine -- but a 43 yarder is a chip-shot in today's NFL. Get him the fuck out of here.
THIS POST RIGHT HERE! 100% AGREEMENT!

Parkey CANNOT be on this team next year.

I still feel like vomiting. It's going to be awhile before I get over this one. Sadly and admittedly, as a Chicago sports fan, I've experienced more emotionally crushing losses, but this still fucking sucks. I've deleted the game from my DVR and its going to be an effort to get this out of my head.

I am SO PROUD of our new coach, Biscuit, the defense, and especially my guy Anthony Miller. I love this team and I love the overall direction we're going.
Agree with all of this... There's no way in HELL any fan will accept him on this team next year. Everyone did their part this year but for him. I'm glad Parkey can find solace in god but I don't believe in god so I can still be pissed off at this chump if I want. Pace has done a hell of a job putting together a great roster but he has a little work to do still. I cannot see him not having like 5 kickers on the team going into OTAs and TC. Bring in a draft pick, a few FAs and try out a few soccer or rugby players get creative find the right guy.

Was one hell of a season though... I am disappointed but pleased at the same time. What were the damn chances of him hitting the upright let alone the outside of the crossbar. I mean I told my friend (as I'm sure a lot of you did) after he made the first "watch him hit the upright on this one". Sure enough... My friend who's not a Bear fan was astounded I called it lol. I had to explain to him what's happened earlier with this douchebag kicker.

Anyhow, here's to a solid future ahead with Da Bears!
I'm still not over the loss, but I will say this.

The Green Bay game in week 1 was a litmus test. Let's see what we've got here. Look how much everybody has grown since that game. I think that game pissed them off and got them rolling. I hope this game did the same thing. Shit, look how pissed we are! Can you imagine how pumped we're all gonna be for opening day in 2019. I think they'll be that times 10. Few things motivate like a chip on the shoulder.
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There's no way in HELL any fan will accept him on this team next year.
While I agree, at the end of the day the team doesn't give a shit what fans want when it comes to the roster or personnel moves.

It all comes down to his contract, if they think he will bounce back, or if they think they can find a suitable replacement that makes it worth eating his salary.

They don't give the fans a second thought.
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Exactly.... top that off with a tight cap situation this off season and he is most likely back. I would bring in two rookies and have them all battle it out in camp though. If one of the rooks looks good and Doink still has the yips, cut his ass. But you really cannot afford to allocate $7M+ of your cap to a kicker when you only have 38 players under contract and $20M to work with.
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NFL changes Bears' Cody Parkey's miss to a block
Kicker Cody Parkey has been getting roasted for missing the potentially game-winning field goal in the Chicago Bears' playoff loss to the Philadelphia Eagles. It turns out he wasn't totally to blame.

The NFL officially changed the 43-yard miss to a block by Eagles defensive tackle Treyvon Hester on Monday. The lineman barely got a finger on the ball, but it changed the trajectory enough that the kick hit the upright, dropped down to the crossbar and then out.

"Me and Haloti [Ngata] ... we got penetration, got the hand up like coach always says," Hester said, according to the Philadelphia Daily News. "Tipped off my fingertips. Felt good ... [but] actually, I thought I didn't get enough of it, I thought it was going to go in. When I saw it going in, I turned back around [away from the goal posts]. Then I heard everybody screaming, I was like, oh, [expletive] ... he missed it."

In the immediate aftermath of the game, it didn't appear that many people picked up on the fact that Hester got a hand on the ball. Parkey, who had been under fire in Chicago well before the game for missing a league-high 10 kicks during the regular season, didn't shy away from facing the media after the contest.

"You can't make this up," Parkey said. "I feel terrible. I let the team down. That's on me. I have to own it. I have to be a man. Unfortunately, that's the way it went today."

follow the link and watch the video ... Eagle player did get his hand on the ball

doesn't change the result, but for credit to be given to a defensive play rather than it being a choke job makes it a bit more palatable
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The tip still changes nothing because he made the first one and saw that he barely made (a 43) so he changed the trajectory lower which allowed the defender to graze it with his finger. That's still on the kicker. A 43 should not be a kick you barely make distance wise so much so you kick the next kick lower to confiscate. The guy sucks...

I get the cap thing here but if he's our kicker next year and messes up like this again some nut job fan will kill him for real. Imagine the same scenario and now we have the Bills reputation "laces out" BS lol. I can see it happen this guy Parkey has shown no sign of being able to shrug off something like this.

The Bills should have won what like 2 - 3 SBs if it wasn't for their kicker? So there's been a scenario played out in the past that's similar to this one with the Bears or at least could be if not addressed...
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wab wrote:
There's no way in HELL any fan will accept him on this team next year.
While I agree, at the end of the day the team doesn't give a shit what fans want when it comes to the roster or personnel moves.

It all comes down to his contract, if they think he will bounce back, or if they think they can find a suitable replacement that makes it worth eating his salary.

They don't give the fans a second thought.
Nor should they. Fans are fickle and don't have anywhere close to the information they have.
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There's no way in HELL any fan will accept him on this team next year.
While I agree, at the end of the day the team doesn't give a shit what fans want when it comes to the roster or personnel moves.

It all comes down to his contract, if they think he will bounce back, or if they think they can find a suitable replacement that makes it worth eating his salary.

They don't give the fans a second thought.
Nor should they. Fans are fickle and don't have anywhere close to the information they have.
Hard to really hide anything with a kicker... I'm sure any fan can see with their own eyes the problems with him. What else can it be? Mental issues? Pretty easy to see that as well from your couch at home. It's not like he's the QB or MLB and there's a ton of other circumstances involved on the field. We saw with every kick he's missed (for the most part) the snap and hold were fine. The rest is all on him.
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In the category of... Post that I probably... no... really Really REALLY shouldn't hit Submit on...

On the Hoge and Jahns Podcast Eagles postgame, Adam Hoge pointed out that Robbie Gould was in a Soldier skybox for the game and that he becomes a free agent this offseason.
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Knuckles wrote:
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wab wrote:
There's no way in HELL any fan will accept him on this team next year.
While I agree, at the end of the day the team doesn't give a shit what fans want when it comes to the roster or personnel moves.

It all comes down to his contract, if they think he will bounce back, or if they think they can find a suitable replacement that makes it worth eating his salary.

They don't give the fans a second thought.
Nor should they. Fans are fickle and don't have anywhere close to the information they have.
Hard to really hide anything with a kicker... I'm sure any fan can see with their own eyes the problems with him. What else can it be? Mental issues? Pretty easy to see that as well from your couch at home. It's not like he's the QB or MLB and there's a ton of other circumstances involved on the field. We saw with every kick he's missed (for the most part) the snap and hold were fine. The rest is all on him.
Is the guy mentally weak or strong? Does he have a good attitude? How does he practice every day? Does he do everything he can to improve? Does he listen to coaching? Is he stable outside of work? What information do they have about all of the alternatives, mental and physical?

Yeah. No reason to know anything else about the guy. That's irrelevant. All you need to know to make an effective judgement is what happens on TV. :roll:
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Mikefive wrote:In the category of... Post that I probably... no... really Really REALLY shouldn't hit Submit on...

On the Hoge and Jahns Podcast Eagles postgame, Adam Hoge pointed out that Robbie Gould was in a Soldier skybox for the game and that he becomes a free agent this offseason.
Hah yeah I saw that... As much as I love Gould I think they need to find a young guy with a strong leg to kick up in Soldier Field. That place is a nightmare at any given time to kick the ball. Need another Butler that guy was good and mentally one tough SOB. Whatever happened to his kid is he still in the NFL? I remember he was here for a tryout what the last offseason?
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Mikefive wrote:
Knuckles wrote:
Mikefive wrote:
wab wrote:
There's no way in HELL any fan will accept him on this team next year.
While I agree, at the end of the day the team doesn't give a shit what fans want when it comes to the roster or personnel moves.

It all comes down to his contract, if they think he will bounce back, or if they think they can find a suitable replacement that makes it worth eating his salary.

They don't give the fans a second thought.
Nor should they. Fans are fickle and don't have anywhere close to the information they have.
Hard to really hide anything with a kicker... I'm sure any fan can see with their own eyes the problems with him. What else can it be? Mental issues? Pretty easy to see that as well from your couch at home. It's not like he's the QB or MLB and there's a ton of other circumstances involved on the field. We saw with every kick he's missed (for the most part) the snap and hold were fine. The rest is all on him.
Is the guy mentally weak or strong? Does he have a good attitude? How does he practice every day? Does he do everything he can to improve? Does he listen to coaching? Is he stable outside of work? What information do they have about all of the alternatives, mental and physical?

Yeah. No reason to know anything else about the guy. That's irrelevant. All you need to know to make an effective judgement is what happens on TV. :roll:
None of that matters with a kicker man. Hate to say it. They don't need to know the playbook, they don't need to be work out warriors all they need to do is kick the damn ball. And, he's proven he hasn't a real strong leg and he's proven he gets rattled and can't mentally turn it around. I mean 4 post hits in one game and now this. I don't need insight from the coaches or Dr. Phill to see any of this.
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