This is as harsh of a comment as I ever expect coach to make about any player....
https://twitter.com/JJStankevitz/status ... 27680?s=20
Update: Cody Parkey is a disgrace to place kickers
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Nagy was clearly not thrilled. It's a lot of money to eat for a kicker, especially when you don't know if there's going to be a substantial improvement. But I think from a culture standpoint, you almost have to do send him on his way.
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I think "as harsh of a comment as I ever expect" is pushing it. Nevertheless, as positive a guy as Nagy is, that comment (which I just viewed as I watch their presser) along with the corresponding body language... The odds of the team eating the cap $$$ and moving on from Parkey just went up significantly.BR0D1E86 wrote:This is as harsh of a comment as I ever expect coach to make about any player....
https://twitter.com/JJStankevitz/status ... 27680?s=20
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I’ve never seen him with public corrections of players, so I should say as publicly harsh. I’m sure in private he’s as direct as he needs to be.Mikefive wrote:I think "as harsh of a comment as I ever expect" is pushing it. Nevertheless, as positive a guy as Nagy is, that comment (which I just viewed as I watch their presser) along with the corresponding body language... The odds of the team eating the cap $$$ and moving on from Parkey just went up significantly.BR0D1E86 wrote:This is as harsh of a comment as I ever expect coach to make about any player....
https://twitter.com/JJStankevitz/status ... 27680?s=20
Yeah same... But, if he has a mental issue now just imagine the pressure that will be on him next year here. There's no way in hell the Bears keep him around even if they have to eat the cap not only for the sake of the team but for Parkey's as well.Mikefive wrote:I could understand him seeing a sports psychologist this offseason.
”Damn -- Khalil Mack had another strip sack?” Gruden asked rhetorically, shaking his head at the Oakland Raiders assistant coaches in his midst. “Are you ... kidding me?”
Interesting... I never watched the interview because I could care less about Parkey at this point and don't care what he has to say LOL. But, the look on Nagy's face after the kick and to hear him say that about the TS interview Nagy behind the scenes seems to be still pretty upset about the whole situation. Now with Pace coming out and saying they need to improve the kicker situation looks to be the writing on the wall to at least get some serious competition in here this offseason if not just let the guy go altogether.BR0D1E86 wrote:This is as harsh of a comment as I ever expect coach to make about any player....
https://twitter.com/JJStankevitz/status ... 27680?s=20
”Damn -- Khalil Mack had another strip sack?” Gruden asked rhetorically, shaking his head at the Oakland Raiders assistant coaches in his midst. “Are you ... kidding me?”
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The interview was a weird wanna-be feel good story. Like, hey look at what a great person his is...rooted in faith...family man...more than just football.Knuckles wrote:Interesting... I never watched the interview because I could care less about Parkey at this point and don't care what he has to say LOL. But, the look on Nagy's face after the kick and to hear him say that about the TS interview Nagy behind the scenes seems to be still pretty upset about the whole situation. Now with Pace coming out and saying they need to improve the kicker situation looks to be the writing on the wall to at least get some serious competition in here this offseason if not just let the guy go altogether.BR0D1E86 wrote:This is as harsh of a comment as I ever expect coach to make about any player....
https://twitter.com/JJStankevitz/status ... 27680?s=20
But it fell flat and clearly pissed off the brass. And I'm sure the part where Parkey said "Football is just what I do, it's not who I am" is what Nagy is talking about when he said something along the lines of "We talk about the team, we talk about 'we'. That felt like a 'me' thing. It was not a 'we' thing,"
That's a professional way of saying that Parkey's decision to appear on Today was extremely selfish, and that's not the culture that the Bears are trying to instill.
A lot can happen between now and March/April, but if you ask me today, I don't see Parkey in a Bears uniform next season.
bad thing for a winning culture too. you cant have 52 other guys looking at parkey, a guy who performed so badly all year, outright didnt do his job and then have him back on your team. It just tells guys that even if they massively under perform there's a chance they keep their job.
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totally agree.Z Bear wrote:Isn't it nice to only be bitching about our kicker? Last year was a crap ton of questions (Coach, QB, pass rush, etc.) and this season it is just Doink.
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Curious what Pace has in mind... would Gould sign a 3-4 year deal with money deferred to the second year? Are we looking at someone like Josh Lambo? Jason Myers?
Draft? I'd throw a 7th rounder at Cole Tracy out of LSU...
Draft? I'd throw a 7th rounder at Cole Tracy out of LSU...
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I wouldn't be upset with a six. I know parkey is on a lot of our minds, and he is the butt of all jokes right now.G08 wrote:Curious what Pace has in mind... would Gould sign a 3-4 year deal with money deferred to the second year? Are we looking at someone like Josh Lambo? Jason Myers?
Draft? I'd throw a 7th rounder at Cole Tracy out of LSU...
But as far as free agency? Throughout the league NFL kickers sucked this year.
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What about the kid from Notre Dame? Yoon Ithink. That guys has been money for four years.
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I still say he makes it to camp. Bring in someone off the street with experience on a low guarantee ($50k max) vet minimum contract, then bring in a rookie UDFA and let them have a battle royal. Let Parkey kick the first FG at Soldier Field then have Nagy get on the PA system and announce they cut him after he shanks it. Give the fans blood gladiator style.
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I think they have a board of kickers for the draft, possibly in Pace's butter zone of the 4th/5th round.
Maybe tabs on a few unconventional sorts from international areas. I think the answer here is to go younger. Gould's great and all, but he's also expensive and a bit aged. I'd be interested in a 1-2 year deal for Robbie if he's interested and the money's right, but don't just go to Gould with a desperate air.
Maybe tabs on a few unconventional sorts from international areas. I think the answer here is to go younger. Gould's great and all, but he's also expensive and a bit aged. I'd be interested in a 1-2 year deal for Robbie if he's interested and the money's right, but don't just go to Gould with a desperate air.
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We have a 3rd, 4th, 5th, and at least one 7th round pick in this upcoming draft. I think last year's 7th round picks around where we are slotted got a 4 year $2.56M dollar deal. Cap number of $497,906 in his first season.... we can easily afford that. Go draft your kid, Pace.
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Scouting kickers is haaaaaaard though. Some of the best kickers in college over the last few years have been drafted and have failed miserably.
You almost have to find a guy that has talent that has bounced around on a practice squad/preseason roster for a couple years but just hasn't been able to supplant a vet.
You almost have to find a guy that has talent that has bounced around on a practice squad/preseason roster for a couple years but just hasn't been able to supplant a vet.
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It's a delicate art, that's for sure. Especially in the last few years where teams have cycled through a shitload of kickers. Arguably we're in the worst era of kickers in NFL history, maybe not by talent so much as established reliable mainstays.wab wrote:Scouting kickers is haaaaaaard though. Some of the best kickers in college over the last few years have been drafted and have failed miserably.
You almost have to find a guy that has talent that has bounced around on a practice squad/preseason roster for a couple years but just hasn't been able to supplant a vet.
Don't forget that Pace also needs to find a punter, too.
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Anyone you like on the FA scrapheap?wab wrote:Scouting kickers is haaaaaaard though. Some of the best kickers in college over the last few years have been drafted and have failed miserably.
You almost have to find a guy that has talent that has bounced around on a practice squad/preseason roster for a couple years but just hasn't been able to supplant a vet.
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I watched a lot of Nick Rose when he was at Texas. His leg is unbelievable but calling his mechanics inconsistent would be kind. I wanted the Bears to draft him, but they signed Barth and brought in Andy Phillips as a UDFA instead.G08 wrote:Anyone you like on the FA scrapheap?wab wrote:Scouting kickers is haaaaaaard though. Some of the best kickers in college over the last few years have been drafted and have failed miserably.
You almost have to find a guy that has talent that has bounced around on a practice squad/preseason roster for a couple years but just hasn't been able to supplant a vet.
Matt McCrane bounced between the Cards and the Raiders but he looked good in limited action and in the preseason.
Taylor Bertolet is another dude I saw a lot of down here when he was at A&M and was pretty highly regarded back in the 2016 draft cycle.
That's about the extent of my knowledge of scrap heap FA's. At least the younger ones.
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I'd love to see Cole Tracy and Josh Lambo brought in to compete.
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Tracy is about as consistent as there is in college football right now. And all the bouncing around he's done shows me that he can handle change/adversity. I hate the thought of drafting kickers, but I'd throw a 5th rounder down on him and see what happens.
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Does anyone else think Parkey might be angling to get released? As it appears that he didn't coordinate with the Bears before going on a freaking talk show in the aftermath of a heartbreaking playoff loss that he played a key role in, that would make him either reckless/extremely out of touch or he knows that it would push the Bears towards turfing him.
The guy hates the traffic he has to battle to practice at Soldier field, he got booed off the field by the fans, is getting roasted in social media. His money is guaranteed, does he want to be cut?
The guy hates the traffic he has to battle to practice at Soldier field, he got booed off the field by the fans, is getting roasted in social media. His money is guaranteed, does he want to be cut?
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I don't like it either but this is where we are. Parkey is being paid to go away so we have to off-set that with a low round draft pick.wab wrote:Tracy is about as consistent as there is in college football right now. And all the bouncing around he's done shows me that he can handle change/adversity. I hate the thought of drafting kickers, but I'd throw a 5th rounder down on him and see what happens.
Is the kid worth a 5th? If Pace is fixated on him then I can see him using a 5th. 3rd/4th IMO should be pegged for a RB and OT.
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Not very Christian of him, is it?WagonForce wrote:Does anyone else think Parkey might be angling to get released? As it appears that he didn't coordinate with the Bears before going on a freaking talk show in the aftermath of a heartbreaking playoff loss that he played a key role in, that would make him either reckless/extremely out of touch or he knows that it would push the Bears towards turfing him.
The guy hates the traffic he has to battle to practice in Solider field, he got booed off the field by the fans, is getting roasted in social media. His money is guaranteed, does he want to be cut?
I keed...
I think his agents see the writing on the wall and they are trying to save face.
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PR stunt to pave the way for his new book, "Alive and Kicking"?