G08 wrote:^ My wife said it was fucked up, should I even bother?
it was fucked up for many reasons ... that didn't make it a bad movie, just not a must see
and it never explained wtf the whole deal was about
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G08 wrote:^ My wife said it was fucked up, should I even bother?
It's a good way to kill a couple hours but it's not life changing by any means.G08 wrote:^ My wife said it was fucked up, should I even bother?
How does this affect the culture??? We need to slow down the train a little bit here. Football is a performance business and Parkey didn't perform. That's a fact. Besides, players aren't privy to player discussions between coaches and the GM and player acquisition is in Ryan Pace's court. So we can play the good cop (Nagy) bad cop (Pace) game and keep that out of the locker room.wab wrote:ARKUSH: What's that old "Naked City" intro, Bob? There are eight million stories in the City of New York and this has been one of them? There will be eight million stories about the 2018 Chicago Bears in the coming days, weeks and months, and the first thousand or two will all be about Cody Parkey. Parkey is not THE reason the Bears lost their wild-card game to the Eagles, but he obviously blew his chance to be the hero. Once Bears fanatics, I mean fans, get over their disappointment and outrage, we should hope they would grasp that very important distinction. The Bears do still have a critical decision to make on Parkey, though. Forget his contract, the uprights and the fact he deserves better than the way Bears fans have treated him so far. Is there any way the Bears can bring Parkey back knowing the distractions and added pressures it will put on his teammates with his mere presence?skamanfrank wrote:Any change you could copy and paste the text please? GDPR rules mean we can see that in Europe.wab wrote:Really he only cost us two...Miami and the wild card game, but your overall point remains. The Bears are in a tough spot. He was bad all season.The Marshall Plan wrote:He CANNOT be on this team next season. Screw the contract and the cap hit. This guy has repeatedly fucked up and cost us games.
As much as I loathe giving credence to anything Hub says, he wonders how cutting Parkey will impact the locker room after preaching family and brotherhood and selflessly having each others backs all season.
It's a good point.
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LEGERE: My best guess right now is, “No way.” No kicker in the NFL missed more FG tries than Parkey, who was 23-for-30 during the regular season. Four other kickers missed seven times; two had better percentages than Parkey and two were worse. However, the Bears are already into the 26-year-old Parkey for $5.5 million, and his $3.5 million base next year is fully guaranteed. That’s a lot of loot to pay someone for one year. The league is full of kickers who washed out on one team and then had successful careers elsewhere, and Parkey could be one of them. But the Bears are his fourth team in five years, which isn’t a good sign. The bottom line for the Bears is this: Was Parkey’s off year (76.7 on FG attempts) in 2018, just that, one bad season? Or is his 86.4 percent accuracy rate over the previous four seasons more indicative of the kind of kicker he is?
ARKUSH: You know, Bob, I get all you're saying, and they're all sound football points, but I'm just not sure that is what this will come down to. There is every reason to suggest Parkey will come back and have a good year kicking the football somewhere, but the Bears could be damned if they do and damned if they don't. Which will be the lesser risk? If you cut Parkey, what kind of message does it send to the players in the locker room after you built your culture around the brotherhood of players -- until they miss a big kick? But how much extra pressure are you putting on every player every time Parkey goes out to kick, with each guy waiting for him to miss again? It seems the right football move is to move on from him regardless of whether you think he can be a good kicker again or not.
LEGERE: Hub, maybe I’m just too nice of a guy, something I’ve rarely been accused of, but I think the Bears should bring in competition and let Parkey try to hang on to his job. If he can withstand that kind of pressure, then I think he’s worth a second chance. That would give him the chance to demonstrate the kind of mental toughness he’s going to need if he remains in Chicago. Your point about the culture Nagy has built is well taken. He frequently refers to the team as a family, and you don’t boot someone out of a family because they’re going through a rough time. It was actually Lovie Smith who said that, back in 2006, the last time the Bears went to the Super Bowl. His kicker that year was Robbie Gould, who hit 32 of 36 FG attempts (88.9 percent).
So about the Detroit game a few months ago then?southdakbearfan wrote:I don’t see them bringing in anyone until he starts having issues with the guaranteed money he is getting.
I think "as harsh of a comment as I ever expect" is pushing it. Nevertheless, as positive a guy as Nagy is, that comment (which I just viewed as I watch their presser) along with the corresponding body language... The odds of the team eating the cap $$$ and moving on from Parkey just went up significantly.BR0D1E86 wrote:This is as harsh of a comment as I ever expect coach to make about any player....
https://twitter.com/JJStankevitz/status ... 27680?s=20
I’ve never seen him with public corrections of players, so I should say as publicly harsh. I’m sure in private he’s as direct as he needs to be.Mikefive wrote:I think "as harsh of a comment as I ever expect" is pushing it. Nevertheless, as positive a guy as Nagy is, that comment (which I just viewed as I watch their presser) along with the corresponding body language... The odds of the team eating the cap $$$ and moving on from Parkey just went up significantly.BR0D1E86 wrote:This is as harsh of a comment as I ever expect coach to make about any player....
https://twitter.com/JJStankevitz/status ... 27680?s=20
Yeah same... But, if he has a mental issue now just imagine the pressure that will be on him next year here. There's no way in hell the Bears keep him around even if they have to eat the cap not only for the sake of the team but for Parkey's as well.Mikefive wrote:I could understand him seeing a sports psychologist this offseason.
Interesting... I never watched the interview because I could care less about Parkey at this point and don't care what he has to say LOL. But, the look on Nagy's face after the kick and to hear him say that about the TS interview Nagy behind the scenes seems to be still pretty upset about the whole situation. Now with Pace coming out and saying they need to improve the kicker situation looks to be the writing on the wall to at least get some serious competition in here this offseason if not just let the guy go altogether.BR0D1E86 wrote:This is as harsh of a comment as I ever expect coach to make about any player....
https://twitter.com/JJStankevitz/status ... 27680?s=20
The interview was a weird wanna-be feel good story. Like, hey look at what a great person his is...rooted in faith...family man...more than just football.Knuckles wrote:Interesting... I never watched the interview because I could care less about Parkey at this point and don't care what he has to say LOL. But, the look on Nagy's face after the kick and to hear him say that about the TS interview Nagy behind the scenes seems to be still pretty upset about the whole situation. Now with Pace coming out and saying they need to improve the kicker situation looks to be the writing on the wall to at least get some serious competition in here this offseason if not just let the guy go altogether.BR0D1E86 wrote:This is as harsh of a comment as I ever expect coach to make about any player....
https://twitter.com/JJStankevitz/status ... 27680?s=20
totally agree.Z Bear wrote:Isn't it nice to only be bitching about our kicker? Last year was a crap ton of questions (Coach, QB, pass rush, etc.) and this season it is just Doink.
I wouldn't be upset with a six. I know parkey is on a lot of our minds, and he is the butt of all jokes right now.G08 wrote:Curious what Pace has in mind... would Gould sign a 3-4 year deal with money deferred to the second year? Are we looking at someone like Josh Lambo? Jason Myers?
Draft? I'd throw a 7th rounder at Cole Tracy out of LSU...
It's a delicate art, that's for sure. Especially in the last few years where teams have cycled through a shitload of kickers. Arguably we're in the worst era of kickers in NFL history, maybe not by talent so much as established reliable mainstays.wab wrote:Scouting kickers is haaaaaaard though. Some of the best kickers in college over the last few years have been drafted and have failed miserably.
You almost have to find a guy that has talent that has bounced around on a practice squad/preseason roster for a couple years but just hasn't been able to supplant a vet.