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What a fucking defense, boys!! Eddie Jackson is a cold-blooded killer!
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G08 wrote:What a fucking defense, boys!! Eddie Jackson is a cold-blooded killer!
That dude is an assassin. He diagnoses defenses, and kills the QB. Just brilliant. Remember...4th round pick.


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Third Best Record in NFC..
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When these baby Bears grow more..
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Vikings v. Packers Sunday night. The VERY first time in my life I will be rooting for the Packers.
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Can't ever root for the Pack, the hate is just too much.

If the Bears take care of their own business, they do not have to worry about the Vikes.
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Otis Day wrote:Can't ever root for the Pack, the hate is just too much.

If the Bears take care of their own business, they do not have to worry about the Vikes.

Help me out here Otis. If the Pack beat the Vikings, the Bears have a full two game lead...
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It's very possible that if the Bears beat the Giants, and lose to the Rams, and the Vikings lose to the Pats and the Seahawks, that the Bears could be playing for the division title against the Packers in week 14 at Soldier Field. Is that right?
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I haven't hate a Packer more than I hate Clay Mathews and A A Ron. Cannot root for them. I don't trust the Pack. If they start to win and somehow make the playoffs (seems pretty small chance at this second) and would fear them just because of A A Ron. The sooner the Pack get knocked out the better.

I prefer the Bears just take care of their own business and not have to rely on anyone.
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Rooting for another tie between them
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thunderspirit wrote:
UOK wrote:This is a loss. 7-4.
Yeah, it does not look like the Bears' game.
I am very glad to be wrong about this. :headbang:
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dplank wrote:I agree with Rich here
RichH55 wrote: Dplank is correct
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Otis Day wrote:I haven't hate a Packer more than I hate Clay Mathews and A A Ron. Cannot root for them. I don't trust the Pack. If they start to win and somehow make the playoffs (seems pretty small chance at this second) and would fear them just because of A A Ron. The sooner the Pack get knocked out the better.

I prefer the Bears just take care of their own business and not have to rely on anyone.
Exactly. Let MN bury the Packers and we take care of business. I will never root for the Pack.
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southdakbearfan wrote:Rooting for another tie between them
This right here.
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3. Chicago Bears (8-3)
You were wrong if you thought the Bears would stumble Thursday on an extremely short week -- and without their starting quarterback. A 23-16 victory over the Lions concluded a season-defining stretch that produced three NFC North victories in a 12-day span. Only two games remain against teams who currently have winning records, and the division title -- which would be the Bears' first since 2010 -- is within sight. FPI gives them an 80 percent chance to win the NFC North and a 95 percent chance to reach the playoffs, independent of Thursday's other results.

ESPN..

Next up: at New York Giants

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Bears defense rises to the occasion, stuffing runs and choking the turkey hole to 23-16 win over Lions
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Bears Whiskey Nut wrote:It's very possible that if the Bears beat the Giants, and lose to the Rams, and the Vikings lose to the Pats and the Seahawks, that the Bears could be playing for the division title against the Packers in week 14 at Soldier Field. Is that right?
There's a really good chance you're right.

I took a look at it and here's what I came up:

Ultimately the tie on the Vikings and (Fuck The) Packers records is their undoing. I went with a worst case scenario for the Bears where we only beat the Giants and the Packers going forward (which includes a loss to the 49ers BTW). I have the Vikings beating the Packers this Sunday.

Bears 8-3
Remaining Games:
Giants W
Rams L
Packers W
49ers L
Vikings L

Ending Record: 10-6

Vikings 5-4-1
Remaining Games:
Packers W
Patriots L
Seahawks L
Dolphins W
Lions W
Bears W

Ending Record: 9-6-1

Packers 4-5-1
Remaining Games:
Vikings L
Cardinals W
Falcons W
Bears L
Jets W
Lions W

Ending Record: 8-7-1
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Great TEAM win today. Mitch definitely should have quieted his critics today...from the sideline. The team is far more dynamic with him in. The run game was weak, but Chase did what was needed in the air to make up for it. He showed some grit today as well. Ultimately it was the right choice to play him and let Mitch heal. The defense can hang with anybody so far, however, we need Fangio to develop a game plan to deal with the endless dink-dunk to YAC 1st downs as I expect further opponents to use it more to negate the pass rush like today.

Next week will be a challenge for them despite the Giants record, Saquon and Odell are a tough combo.
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The Marshall Plan wrote:
Bears Whiskey Nut wrote:It's very possible that if the Bears beat the Giants, and lose to the Rams, and the Vikings lose to the Pats and the Seahawks, that the Bears could be playing for the division title against the Packers in week 14 at Soldier Field. Is that right?
There's a really good chance you're right.

I took a look at it and here's what I came up:

Ultimately the tie on the Vikings and (Fuck The) Packers records is their undoing. I went with a worst case scenario for the Bears where we only beat the Giants and the Packers going forward (which includes a loss to the 49ers BTW). I have the Vikings beating the Packers this Sunday.

Bears 8-3
Remaining Games:
Giants W
Rams L
Packers W
49ers L
Vikings L

Ending Record: 10-6

Vikings 5-4-1
Remaining Games:
Packers W
Patriots L
Seahawks L
Dolphins W
Lions W
Bears W

Ending Record: 9-6-1

Packers 4-5-1
Remaining Games:
Vikings L
Cardinals W
Falcons W
Bears L
Jets W
Lions W

Ending Record: 8-7-1
We're losing to the 9ers? Okay. Is it Mullens or Beatherd who gets the best of us?
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alexwilkins wrote:
The Marshall Plan wrote:
Bears Whiskey Nut wrote:It's very possible that if the Bears beat the Giants, and lose to the Rams, and the Vikings lose to the Pats and the Seahawks, that the Bears could be playing for the division title against the Packers in week 14 at Soldier Field. Is that right?
There's a really good chance you're right.

I took a look at it and here's what I came up:

Ultimately the tie on the Vikings and (Fuck The) Packers records is their undoing. I went with a worst case scenario for the Bears where we only beat the Giants and the Packers going forward (which includes a loss to the 49ers BTW). I have the Vikings beating the Packers this Sunday.

Bears 8-3
Remaining Games:
Giants W
Rams L
Packers W
49ers L
Vikings L

Ending Record: 10-6

Vikings 5-4-1
Remaining Games:
Packers W
Patriots L
Seahawks L
Dolphins W
Lions W
Bears W

Ending Record: 9-6-1

Packers 4-5-1
Remaining Games:
Vikings L
Cardinals W
Falcons W
Bears L
Jets W
Lions W

Ending Record: 8-7-1
We're losing to the 9ers? Okay. Is it Mullens or Beatherd who gets the best of us?
My thought exactly. 3-2 is the worst we do in the last 5.
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southdakbearfan wrote:
alexwilkins wrote:
The Marshall Plan wrote:
Bears Whiskey Nut wrote:It's very possible that if the Bears beat the Giants, and lose to the Rams, and the Vikings lose to the Pats and the Seahawks, that the Bears could be playing for the division title against the Packers in week 14 at Soldier Field. Is that right?
There's a really good chance you're right.

I took a look at it and here's what I came up:

Ultimately the tie on the Vikings and (Fuck The) Packers records is their undoing. I went with a worst case scenario for the Bears where we only beat the Giants and the Packers going forward (which includes a loss to the 49ers BTW). I have the Vikings beating the Packers this Sunday.

Bears 8-3
Remaining Games:
Giants W
Rams L
Packers W
49ers L
Vikings L

Ending Record: 10-6

Vikings 5-4-1
Remaining Games:
Packers W
Patriots L
Seahawks L
Dolphins W
Lions W
Bears W

Ending Record: 9-6-1

Packers 4-5-1
Remaining Games:
Vikings L
Cardinals W
Falcons W
Bears L
Jets W
Lions W

Ending Record: 8-7-1
We're losing to the 9ers? Okay. Is it Mullens or Beatherd who gets the best of us?
My thought exactly. 3-2 is the worst we do in the last 5.
Yeah. It think we go 3-2 the rest of the way. The fear is if we go 2-3 and the Vikings go 5-1, we are 10-6, and they are 10-5-1. That would suck, and mean the last game of the year is for the division, IN Minnesota.


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I don’t think Minnesota will get out of their own way, honestly.
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Bears Whiskey Nut wrote:
southdakbearfan wrote:
alexwilkins wrote:
The Marshall Plan wrote:
Bears Whiskey Nut wrote:It's very possible that if the Bears beat the Giants, and lose to the Rams, and the Vikings lose to the Pats and the Seahawks, that the Bears could be playing for the division title against the Packers in week 14 at Soldier Field. Is that right?
There's a really good chance you're right.

I took a look at it and here's what I came up:

Ultimately the tie on the Vikings and (Fuck The) Packers records is their undoing. I went with a worst case scenario for the Bears where we only beat the Giants and the Packers going forward (which includes a loss to the 49ers BTW). I have the Vikings beating the Packers this Sunday.

Bears 8-3
Remaining Games:
Giants W
Rams L
Packers W
49ers L
Vikings L

Ending Record: 10-6

Vikings 5-4-1
Remaining Games:
Packers W
Patriots L
Seahawks L
Dolphins W
Lions W
Bears W

Ending Record: 9-6-1

Packers 4-5-1
Remaining Games:
Vikings L
Cardinals W
Falcons W
Bears L
Jets W
Lions W

Ending Record: 8-7-1
We're losing to the 9ers? Okay. Is it Mullens or Beatherd who gets the best of us?
My thought exactly. 3-2 is the worst we do in the last 5.
Yeah. It think we go 3-2 the rest of the way. The fear is if we go 2-3 and the Vikings go 5-1, we are 10-6, and they are 10-5-1. That would suck, and mean the last game of the year is for the division, IN Minnesota.


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This is where the New England, Miami and Green Bay games are a real pisser. All three were very winnable and we wouldn't just be talking about the division but also a first round bye and maybe home field. I hate the way we play on the road and I can't see us getting to the conference finals if we have to win a second round game on the road. The Rams game is a must win if we want to go deep into the playoffs. Maybe we can sneak into the #2 spot in the conference that way and have home field unless if we have to play NO.

Another thing too is the running game. It has got to improve and improve seriously or we're screwed in the playoffs. I don't see us being successful with a one dimensional offense even if that one dimension is outstanding.

The odds of us losing to the 49ers is extremely small. We win that game and do what we're expecting in the others and we're fine.
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I think that the three losses (Green Bay, Miami, and NE) were all about this team learning HOW to win. None of those games were about a Bears' team that was deficient in talent, or being out coached. They were about preventable mistakes. Lack of focus by a VERY young team. Those losses will do more for the team's character, and future ability to win tough games, than the three wins would ever do.
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UOK wrote:I don’t think Minnesota will get out of their own way, honestly.
I could certainly see a scenario where they, expecting to win the NFC North going into the season, begin to implode. Watching the Vikings game, they have a lot of assholes on that team, that are going to start playing even dirtier as the division starts to slip away from them. Harrison, Griffen, and Diggs come to mind.
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It could be... particularly if we lose the Rams game... that our final game against the Vikings won't matter. We'll have the division locked up, but with a win or loss in week 17, we're still 3rd in the NFC. So we rest a lot of guys?
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Mikefive wrote:It could be... particularly if we lose the Rams game... that our final game against the Vikings won't matter. We'll have the division locked up, but with a win or loss in week 17, we're still 3rd in the NFC. So we rest a lot of guys?
I think we rest anyone who may be a bit nicked up.
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thunderspirit wrote:Cos if you give up a FG, you still have the lead.

If you make it, of course.
Nobody looked like they were on the same page. I don’t like the call with a back up QB in. Just get the PAT.
Nagy is gonna call his game the way he’s gonna call it, regardless of who is in there.
How’d that work out? The guy hasn’t had any reps, take the point. Maybe this is a game to be smart instead of being you?
Worked out ok in the end if you ask me.
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Bears Whiskey Nut wrote:I think that the three losses (Green Bay, Miami, and NE) were all about this team learning HOW to win. None of those games were about a Bears' team that was deficient in talent, or being out coached. They were about preventable mistakes. Lack of focus by a VERY young team. Those losses will do more for the team's character, and future ability to win tough games, than the three wins would ever do.
Yes, yes, yes! I've been saying this to anyone who will listen to me.

This is a young team with a very young QB, a rookie HC, a bunch of offensive talent that has never played together (especially the receiving corps), as well as two defensive studs who weren't even with the team during the preseason. This team has to learn HOW to win -- how to come from behind and how to crush the spirit of an opponent trying to climb back into a game. This 3-game stretch of games has shown me a team that is learning how to do all of that.

I still don't think this is our year although we will make the playoffs and maybe win a game. Next year, tho? Its going to be ON!
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Bears Whiskey Nut wrote:Vikings v. Packers Sunday night. The VERY first time in my life I will be rooting for the Packers.
The Packers have the easiest schedule in the NFL moving forward, and I don't care what anyone says: Aaron Rodgers owns us. I want the Vikings to destroy them.
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IotaNet wrote:
Bears Whiskey Nut wrote:I think that the three losses (Green Bay, Miami, and NE) were all about this team learning HOW to win. None of those games were about a Bears' team that was deficient in talent, or being out coached. They were about preventable mistakes. Lack of focus by a VERY young team. Those losses will do more for the team's character, and future ability to win tough games, than the three wins would ever do.
Yes, yes, yes! I've been saying this to anyone who will listen to me.

This is a young team with a very young QB, a rookie HC, a bunch of offensive talent that has never played together (especially the receiving corps), as well as two defensive studs who weren't even with the team during the preseason. This team has to learn HOW to win -- how to come from behind and how to crush the spirit of an opponent trying to climb back into a game. This 3-game stretch of games has shown me a team that is learning how to do all of that.

I still don't think this is our year although we will make the playoffs and maybe win a game. Next year, tho? Its going to be ON!
Nagy said something interesting during a presser that not many people really picked up on. During the next offseason, with one year of calling plays with Mitch, Nagy can start crafting the playbook around his strengths. This year is all about feeling out what Mitch can and can't/doesn't like to do. Next year's offense is going to be some SERIOUS shit.
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