Trubisky shoulder injury // Rolling thread

[Bears Whiskey Nut]

Biscuits looks to be out for Giants as well. Not practicing today.

[IotaNet]

Biscuits looks to be out for Giants as well. Not practicing today.

I have no problem with this. The Giants don’t scare me and we don’t need an Andrew Luck 2.0 — take your time, get him healthy and rested for the Rams and the final playoff push.

[UOK]

Must be doing the same kind of thing they did for Mack/Robinson, sitting them until the division game comes up. Wouldn't be shocked if he's out until the 16th.

[G08]

Must be doing the same kind of thing they did for Mack/Robinson, sitting them until the division game comes up. Wouldn't be shocked if he's out until the 16th.

There's no way in hell I see them sitting him against the Rams.

[Moriarty]

Happy to see them putting long-term interests first

But sorry to see that caution is necessary

[UOK]

Must be doing the same kind of thing they did for Mack/Robinson, sitting them until the division game comes up. Wouldn't be shocked if he's out until the 16th.

There's no way in hell I see them sitting him against the Rams.

Kinda depends on how the standings look at that point. If there's a bye week on the line, yeah you probably start him.

[Bears Whiskey Nut]

Must be doing the same kind of thing they did for Mack/Robinson, sitting them until the division game comes up. Wouldn't be shocked if he's out until the 16th.

There's no way in hell I see them sitting him against the Rams.

Kinda depends on how the standings look at that point. If there's a bye week on the line, yeah you probably start him.

Yeah. If for some unknown reason, the Rams lose this week. Biscuits has to play come hell or highwater.

[Otis Day]

You don't start him for the Ram game, if he can go, you are basically saying you are not interested in winning that game. IMO, Daniel cannot win that game, no matter how good the Bears D is.

[G08]

There is just too much on the line... SNF politics, Nagy saying he's day-to-day and they're treating it the same as Robinson and Mack... and really this is just another game for the Bears to put their stamp on the NFL and NFC Conference in general.

[Mikefive]

There is just too much on the line... SNF politics, Nagy saying he's day-to-day and they're treating it the same as Robinson and Mack... and really this is just another game for the Bears to put their stamp on the NFL and NFC Conference in general.

I just don't see it the same way the last 3 posts do. That sounds like fans talking, but not necessarily like an intelligent coach talking. This is a more complicated situation than that. You have an inexperienced QB who may be ready to play at 80% according to the doctors, but maybe it's not the right thing for him mentally to have that additional weight on his shoulders right now. And maybe, they're looking at it like he needs to be right in week 18 and getting him slammed a few times by Aaron Donald and co. isn't in the best interests of that goal on 12/9.

This is one of those things where... We don't know exactly how his shoulder feels, what the doctor says, where he's at mentally, how he looks actually throwing the ball or how he feels the day after throwing. It's complicated and there's a lot to consider with a young, inexperienced QB. If they think he should sit, even though the doc says he can play, then my trust is in the coaching staff. They've earned that, at least from me.

[G08]

^ We do know that there is no risk of him worsening damage based on the current status of the arm. His range of motion is fine. Nagy said it boils down to him hitting and completing throws. Reading between the lines, I interpret this more as pain management than anything else.

It's football... you can't bubble wrap your QB for important games. To me, this is an important game.

[malk]

Whatever happens, Nagy already strikes me as someone who gives zero fucks and I'm very happy about that.

Smokin' Nagy anyone?

[Bears Whiskey Nut]

Whatever happens, Nagy already strikes me as someone who gives zero fucks and I'm very happy about that.

Smokin' Nagy anyone?

I'd like to see pictures of Nagy with a beer in his hand.

[alexwilkins]

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Out again.

[Boris13c]

Whatever happens, Nagy already strikes me as someone who gives zero fucks and I'm very happy about that.

Smokin' Nagy anyone?

I'd like to see pictures of Nagy with a beer in his hand.

the beer would be much more appropriate

[G08]

Report is that he's able to play but the Bears are holding him out anyway.

That sound you hear is my "please don't Bears this this up" butthole clenching.

[Knuckles]

So did the player that hit Mitch late ever get fined? I know if it was AR he would've been fined, penalized and ejected the NFL would've made him give his first born too and maybe a testicle...

[BR0D1E86]

So did the player that hit Mitch late ever get fined? I know if it was AR he would've been fined, penalized and ejected the NFL would've made him give his first born too and maybe a testicle...

He did, I think it was right at 10 grand and he said he was going to appeal.

Also, f@@@ Harrison Smith. I hope a bird shits on him while he’s walking to his car today.

[Boris13c]

Harrison Smith fined $10,026 for hit on Mitch Trubisky

Minnesota Vikings safety Harrison Smith cost his team 15 yards for an unnecessary roughness penalty for a hit on Chicago Bears quarterback Mitchell Trubisky in Week 11.

The penalty will now cost Smith some money.

The league fined Smith $10,026 for the infraction, NFL Network's Tom Pelissero reported. Smith plans to appeal, Pelissero added.

so what is his appeal going to be based on? the force of gravity was stronger that day than on other days?

it was a late hit cheap shot, and I would feel that way if he did it to somebody other than Trubisky

let's see him unload on Brady like that this week and what happens to him then

[G08]

I understand they want to be precautionary with our franchise QB... but did anyone else focus on our run defense against DET? I'm sure being on short rest played a part, but man our secondary wanted NOTHING to do with Blount, save for maybe Kyle Fuller.

I'm praying our front 7 is healthy and hungry because we NEED to shut down Saquan Barkley or I worry we are in for a rude awakening.

[Funkster]

^ We do know that there is no risk of him worsening damage based on the current status of the arm. His range of motion is fine. Nagy said it boils down to him hitting and completing throws. Reading between the lines, I interpret this more as pain management than anything else.

It's football... you can't bubble wrap your QB for important games. To me, this is an important game.

I agree, it’s seems like this is Nagy’s philosophy with injuries. At the first sign of injury, rest for 2 weeks. That would be fine if this was baseball but the season is short. The bears got lucky the schedule was favorable in the weeks Mack and AR rested.

When the reports came out Tru’s shoulder injury wasn’t serious and he would play if it was a Sunday game, I just kinda shook my head. Now they’re doubling down and saying it’s not serious and he has full ROM, but he probably won’t play, is a head scratcher. The bears can’t afford to sit their star players because they got boo boos. These are conference and divisional games. I hope this week is just Nagy playing head games making the giants prepare for both QB’s instead of one.

Hicks showed up on the injur report with an Achilles. If he doesn’t go, Barkley could put up some yardage.

[Mikefive]

Harrison Smith fined $10,026 for hit on Mitch Trubisky

Minnesota Vikings safety Harrison Smith cost his team 15 yards for an unnecessary roughness penalty for a hit on Chicago Bears quarterback Mitchell Trubisky in Week 11.

The penalty will now cost Smith some money.

The league fined Smith $10,026 for the infraction, NFL Network's Tom Pelissero reported. Smith plans to appeal, Pelissero added.

so what is his appeal going to be based on? the force of gravity was stronger that day than on other days?

it was a late hit cheap shot, and I would feel that way if he did it to somebody other than Trubisky

let's see him unload on Brady like that this week and what happens to him then

I don't think it was that bad of a cheap shot. He might have been able to let up a little bit, but Biscuit was pretty late getting down and it can be impossible to stop when you're already in motion. If Smith was on our team, I wouldn't be throwing dirt at him. If you start anticipating when the QB is going to go down and start holding up before he slides, you end up with plays like the one when Biscuit was heading out of bounds around the 30 and suddenly planted a foot and turned to the inside and almost scored.

[southdakbearfan]

Harrison Smith fined $10,026 for hit on Mitch Trubisky

Minnesota Vikings safety Harrison Smith cost his team 15 yards for an unnecessary roughness penalty for a hit on Chicago Bears quarterback Mitchell Trubisky in Week 11.

The penalty will now cost Smith some money.

The league fined Smith $10,026 for the infraction, NFL Network's Tom Pelissero reported. Smith plans to appeal, Pelissero added.

so what is his appeal going to be based on? the force of gravity was stronger that day than on other days?

it was a late hit cheap shot, and I would feel that way if he did it to somebody other than Trubisky

let's see him unload on Brady like that this week and what happens to him then

I don't think it was that bad of a cheap shot. He might have been able to let up a little bit, but Biscuit was pretty late getting down and it can be impossible to stop when you're already in motion. If Smith was on our team, I wouldn't be throwing dirt at him. If you start anticipating when the QB is going to go down and start holding up before he slides, you end up with plays like the one when Biscuit was heading out of bounds around the 30 and suddenly planted a foot and turned to the inside and almost scored.

It was a dirty hit. Smith went well over one full step after trubisky was down, Then lowered his head and shoulder and laid it on with only one possible intent.

[donkeykong]

Here’s what’s bothersome to me...by the time the Rams come to town on 12/9 Mitch will not have played a game since 11/18! The last thing we need is Mitch starting a game the Bears aren’t favored to win, completely cold.

Also, the Giants have some dangerous weapons. It seems as if we’re overlooking them, this is a game we could potentially lose by starting our backup QB. We then start an ice cold QB against a team that just recently was involved in a shootout with another powerhouse that ended up being the 3rd highest scoring game in the history of the NFL. If our D doesn’t stop LA we’re not built offensively for a 50+ point shootout!

Possibly we go 0-2, largely because I don’t have faith rusty Trubisky coming off 20 days rest is going to be able to put up 30+ points to defeat LA. We then face two divisional rivals. The Vikings ARE NOT a lay down go-ahead victory. While GB is not and has not been very good, if they beat the Cardinals and Falcons you can best believe they’re coming to play with their season on the line. I wouldn’t be shocked with a loss, it would be more of a “that figures” reaction as I sit there dejected. I don’t feel SF has a chance to beat us. HOWEVER, there’s a potential that we end the season on a 1-4 stretch. Definitely not a good place to be entering the playoffs...if 9-7 gets us there.

I’m not trying to be negative, I’m just trying to look at this realistically. This would be a Bears move if I’ve ever seen one and I wouldn’t be shocked if this were the scenario. What I would like to see is Mitch start vs. the Giants, get a lead, and let Chubby Chase finish it off.

On the other hand, I feel Chubby Chase can manage the game well enough that we SHOULD win against the Giants. Then again when the Texans rolled up on the 2-4 Giants, they probably thought they should win too.

[KhalilSackDaddy]

agree w/dnokeykong here.

NY at NY isn't a gimmie, not if Daniel plays like he did at Det, the O completely shut down w/him in there. He cannot run/escape pressure and he struggles to really stretch the field.

Bears need to get to at least 10 wins to really put the screws to the NFCN, and the best shots of winning those 2 are NY and SF.

Nagy is taking a huge risk overlooking NY, if it doesn't pay off, you are now needing to beat LA w/your starting qb cold as dirt, or beat Minny in MN, they barely beat them in Chicago, or beat GB in Chicago; never a given as Rogers seems to have the Bears number.

[Bears Whiskey Nut]

agree w/dnokeykong here.

NY at NY isn't a gimmie, not if Daniel plays like he did at Det, the O completely shut down w/him in there. He cannot run/escape pressure and he struggles to really stretch the field.

Bears need to get to at least 10 wins to really put the screws to the NFCN, and the best shots of winning those 2 are NY and SF.

Nagy is taking a huge risk overlooking NY, if it doesn't pay off, you are now needing to beat LA w/your starting qb cold as dirt, or beat Minny in MN, they barely beat them in Chicago, or beat GB in Chicago; never a given as Rogers seems to have the Bears number.

I think that Nagy does a good job of getting the team to focus on the game at hand. He gets them prepared and ready to play the next opponent, without looking past them. The Giants are certainly dangerous. Especially if you give Manning enough time to find OBJ, or allow Barkley to work up a lather. Unfortunately for NY, this is a really bad match-up for them. They haven't faced a pass rush like the Bears' this year, and their OL is NOT GOOD, like at all. Chicago also has one of the top run defenses in the league. If they can hold Barkley to under 100 yards, and OBJ to 5 catches or less, they will win this game. But if the pass rush doesn't get home with 4-5 guys, it could be a long day for the Bears. Personally I think they will have 5-6 sacks of Eli, and at least a +3 turnover margin.

Regarding Daniel. The great thing about him is, he knows his role, and he knows this offense. He is not trying to win the job by taking chances. He's not a threat to Biscuits, and he knows that, and Mitch knows that. He said it before the Lions game, "my job is to get the ball into the hands of the playmakers." The Lions have a good defense, especially with the addition of Snacks. The Giants defense isn't nearly as good. They are next to last in the league in sacks, and have 10 total INT's. If the Bears OL can give him 3-3.5 seconds, he'll be fine. If he's forced to scramble and improvise, we're screwed. But I'm confident that Nagy will scheme guys open, and Daniel will know where the ball needs to go.

[KhalilSackDaddy]

agree w/dnokeykong here.

NY at NY isn't a gimmie, not if Daniel plays like he did at Det, the O completely shut down w/him in there. He cannot run/escape pressure and he struggles to really stretch the field.

Bears need to get to at least 10 wins to really put the screws to the NFCN, and the best shots of winning those 2 are NY and SF.

Nagy is taking a huge risk overlooking NY, if it doesn't pay off, you are now needing to beat LA w/your starting qb cold as dirt, or beat Minny in MN, they barely beat them in Chicago, or beat GB in Chicago; never a given as Rogers seems to have the Bears number.

I think that Nagy does a good job of getting the team to focus on the game at hand. He gets them prepared and ready to play the next opponent, without looking past them. The Giants are certainly dangerous. Especially if you give Manning enough time to find OBJ, or allow Barkley to work up a lather. Unfortunately for NY, this is a really bad match-up for them. They haven't faced a pass rush like the Bears' this year, and their OL is NOT GOOD, like at all. Chicago also has one of the top run defenses in the league. If they can hold Barkley to under 100 yards, and OBJ to 5 catches or less, they will win this game. But if the pass rush doesn't get home with 4-5 guys, it could be a long day for the Bears. Personally I think they will have 5-6 sacks of Eli, and at least a +3 turnover margin.

Regarding Daniel. The great thing about him is, he knows his role, and he knows this offense. He is not trying to win the job by taking chances. He's not a threat to Biscuits, and he knows that, and Mitch knows that. He said it before the Lions game, "my job is to get the ball into the hands of the playmakers." The Lions have a good defense, especially with the addition of Snacks. The Giants defense isn't nearly as good. They are next to last in the league in sacks, and have 10 total INT's. If the Bears OL can give him 3-3.5 seconds, he'll be fine. If he's forced to scramble and improvise, we're screwed. But I'm confident that Nagy will scheme guys open, and Daniel will know where the ball needs to go.

Well he didn't have them ready for Miami, in which it looked like they were looking past them for NE; although the heat had something to do w/that. I think I saw a stat that MIA/Gase are like 13-1 when the temp is 90+ desgrees. Maybe he learned from it though. But this game falls into something similar though, NY is looked at as a bad team and maybe Nagy has them looking to get ready for LA, by resting Trubs in a should win game. That's my concern.

I agree about Daniel, that he knows his role and won't put the ball in harms way; but there is a really good chance that they will need him to drive this offense to more then 16 points; probably closer to 21, and that's if the def shows up; and part of stopping the run is going to be on Hicks, who apparently has a bad wheel. If Hicks isn't playing to his best Barkley could take over that game, and that will mean Chase will have to try and stretch the field some.
Det is really good, and NY's isn't, but it's the NY O that worries me, they aren't as terrible as people talk. They have scored under 20 points 4 times, but only once since week 8, on week 8. It seems they are figuring whatever their O woe's. So a barely good enough O and super D might not be the best shot of winning on the road.

Chicago's Def is holding teams on average to 19 points, and finding ways to score so that all helps, but the O might need to score around 20 to win(cannot assume the Bears D will score TD's) that means at least 2 probably 3 td's, b/c I'm still not relying on Parkey for 3+ made FG attempts in bad weather.

[wab]

Nagy is taking a huge risk overlooking NY

I don't think Nagy is overlooking anyone. Nagy is letting his franchise QB heal properly.

[G08]

Nagy is taking a huge risk overlooking NY

I don't think Nagy is overlooking anyone. Nagy is letting his franchise QB heal properly.

More and more I'm coming around to -- which is not to say I necessarily like -- they are utilizing the $7M backup the way he should be utilized.

[IotaNet]

I don't think Nagy is overlooking anyone. Nagy is letting his franchise QB heal properly.

... they are utilizing the $7M backup the way he should be utilized.

Exactly.

It reminds me of how another Bears backup QB who wore #4 was used.