Trubisky shoulder injury // Rolling thread

[Otis Day]

So it sounds as if the head first slide was more of the cause than the hit. Things like this bound to happen the more he runs.

FEET FIRST MY MAN!!

[DaSuperfan]

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Mitchell Trubisky woke up sore today and with less movement in his shoulder than expected, making it likely Chase Daniel will start Thanksgiving Day vs Lions, per source. Bears could activate QB Tyler Bray today to backup Daniel, with possibility that Trubisky now will not dress.

If his source is correct that is discouraging to hear. And still leaves us where Nagy said, we are day to day. Let's hope he wakes up feeling better tomorrow.

Question to you, and other's with this view. Why do you see the Lions as such an easy game? On any given week they can hang with anyone. If Stafford is on this game will be very tough even if Mitch plays, let alone with an unknown like Daniels. It is in Detroit and they are coming off a big win and battling for their season. What are you seeing that makes you so confident? I for one am very nervous about this game. Help me out here if you can please with some hope.

No game is an easy win in the NFL. However, the Lions will be playing without Kerryon Johnson and Marvin Jones, two key players on their offense. While the Lions had a big win last week, so did the Bears and the Bears have the better defense. Not saying we win, just saying there's a reason for some optimism even with Daniel starting. Regardless - playing 2 NFL games within an 88 hour span is going to be difficult no matter what. I actually predicted the Bears to lose this game by a FG with Trubisky playing. So we'll see if they surprise us and come out with a win.

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Mitchell Trubisky woke up sore today and with less movement in his shoulder than expected, making it likely Chase Daniel will start Thanksgiving Day vs Lions, per source. Bears could activate QB Tyler Bray today to backup Daniel, with possibility that Trubisky now will not dress.

If his source is correct that is discouraging to hear. And still leaves us where Nagy said, we are day to day. Let's hope he wakes up feeling better tomorrow.

Question to you, and other's with this view. Why do you see the Lions as such an easy game? On any given week they can hang with anyone. If Stafford is on this game will be very tough even if Mitch plays, let alone with an unknown like Daniels. It is in Detroit and they are coming off a big win and battling for their season. What are you seeing that makes you so confident? I for one am very nervous about this game. Help me out here if you can please with some hope.

I shouldn't say it's an easy game, but I think we have an elite defense that can generate turnovers and harass Stafford ad nauseam. He likely will be without one of his best WRs and his best RB, so that adds to what I expect to be a dominating defensive performance.

Offensively, we HAVE to commit to running the ball, burning clock, and giving Chase some simple/rhythm throws. If Nagy comes out throwing it 30-40 times a game, we are in trouble and I'm going to question his football intelligence.

[G08]

I wonder if he sprained his AC joint...

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Mitchell Trubisky is nursing a sprained AC joint, per source. If Thursday’s game were Sunday, the Bears believe Trubisky could play and they believe he’ll be ready a week from Sunday against the NY Giants.

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Mitchell Trubisky woke up sore today and with less movement in his shoulder than expected, making it likely Chase Daniel will start Thanksgiving Day vs Lions, per source. Bears could activate QB Tyler Bray today to backup Daniel, with possibility that Trubisky now will not dress.

I'm guessing it's a lot of swelling, and inflammation.

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Mitchell Trubisky woke up sore today and with less movement in his shoulder than expected, making it likely Chase Daniel will start Thanksgiving Day vs Lions, per source. Bears could activate QB Tyler Bray today to backup Daniel, with possibility that Trubisky now will not dress.

If his source is correct that is discouraging to hear. And still leaves us where Nagy said, we are day to day. Let's hope he wakes up feeling better tomorrow.

Question to you, and other's with this view. Why do you see the Lions as such an easy game? On any given week they can hang with anyone. If Stafford is on this game will be very tough even if Mitch plays, let alone with an unknown like Daniels. It is in Detroit and they are coming off a big win and battling for their season. What are you seeing that makes you so confident? I for one am very nervous about this game. Help me out here if you can please with some hope.

The hope is Daniels knows the system. Reality is he hasn’t taken any meaningful reps all season.

The lions aren’t a push over, this game is a big game for the divisional race.

[IotaNet]

Question to you, and other's with this view. Why do you see the Lions as such an easy game? On any given week they can hang with anyone. If Stafford is on this game will be very tough even if Mitch plays, let alone with an unknown like Daniels. It is in Detroit and they are coming off a big win and battling for their season. What are you seeing that makes you so confident? I for one am very nervous about this game. Help me out here if you can please with some hope.

As others have said, there are no easy games in the NFL.

Having said that, I fully expect the Defense to take this game on as a personal challenge. These boys are going to strap up, strap in, and strap on -- and I expect Stafford to have a very, very bad day.

Its going to be like 1985 out there tomorrow.

[Pagan]

personally I could see this going down either way.

Nagy IS sneaky.. but he's also (thankfully) very cautious with injuries.. I if this "injury" is anything more than extra soreness.. I say sit him.
No brainer.

Winning or losing the Lions game is of little consequence compared to the rest of the games thereafter.

The Bears need to NOT fuck up their playoff chances by trying to "tough it out"... even if it DOES make for a great Bears are "tough as nails" kick ass story.

Put me down in the "puss out" possibly lose the next one to win the rest of the games!

Besides... with this crazy defense & a back up that knows this offense MUCH better than Mitch & a likely refocus on running Howard = The Bears most likely STILL win this Thanksgiving game anyway.

[GSH]

chase has got legs and a nice touch on the ball. Chase highlights reel: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aOcVo7H_BXo

He also made Wims look GREAT in the pre-season

[Funkster]

personally I could see this going down either way.

Nagy IS sneaky.. but he's also (thankfully) very cautious with injuries.. I if this "injury" is anything more than extra soreness.. I say sit him.
No brainer.

Winning or losing the Lions game is of little consequence compared to the rest of the games thereafter.

The Bears need to NOT fuck up their playoff chances by trying to "tough it out"... even if it DOES make for a great Bears are "tough as nails" kick ass story.

Put me down in the "puss out" possibly lose the next one to win the rest of the games!

Besides... with this crazy defense & a back up that knows this offense MUCH better than Mitch & a likely refocus on running Howard = The Bears most likely STILL win this Thanksgiving game anyway.

Man times have changed. Look at what Rodgers just played through, last year Wilson played through a sprained throwing shoulder and knee. If this is more than soreness, I get it but reports say that if this was a Sunday game he would play. This game is to big not to have your franchise QB at least give try to give it a go.

[UOK]

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#Bears have promoted QB Tyler Bray from the practice squad to back up Chase Daniel, as expected. CB Marcus Cooper was released to make room.

[malk]

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#Bears have promoted QB Tyler Bray from the practice squad to back up Chase Daniel, as expected. CB Marcus Cooper was released to make room.

See, there's always a silver lining!

Happy for the kid to sit if he's hurt, still expecting the win without him. Not at all underestimating the Lions but Daniels is getting paid for a reason!

[Rakshir]

Are we surprised it was Marcus Cooper released ? I'd have thought one of the young practice squad guys.

[The Marshall Plan]

Brad Biggs @BradBiggs
#Bears have promoted QB Tyler Bray from the practice squad to back up Chase Daniel, as expected. CB Marcus Cooper was released to make room.

See, there's always a silver lining!

Happy for the kid to sit if he's hurt, still expecting the win without him. Not at all underestimating the Lions but Daniels is getting paid for a reason!

The silver lining for me is that Marcus Cooper was released. It should've happened after the Pittsburgh game last year.

This is the perfect part of the season for Biscuit to take some time off. We can still win this game tomorrow and beat the Giants next week. They need to manage Biscuit's health beyond just the next game but for the whole season and then his career. Let's not pull a Dusty Baker and ruin somebody's health just for the next two games.

[Moriarty]

whenever I hear something about "well, you can't hurt it more by playing", I think back on Jim Miller and his shoulder woes and how the Bears crack medical staff at the time said the same thing and ended up ruining his career

so if there is any question, I want Trubisky to sit, preferably in street clothes so there is no temptation to toss him in there

amen to that

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Mitchell Trubisky woke up sore today and with less movement in his shoulder than expected, making it likely Chase Daniel will start Thanksgiving Day vs Lions, per source. Bears could activate QB Tyler Bray today to backup Daniel, with possibility that Trubisky now will not dress.

If his source is correct that is discouraging to hear. And still leaves us where Nagy said, we are day to day. Let's hope he wakes up feeling better tomorrow.

Question to you, and other's with this view. Why do you see the Lions as such an easy game? On any given week they can hang with anyone. If Stafford is on this game will be very tough even if Mitch plays, let alone with an unknown like Daniels. It is in Detroit and they are coming off a big win and battling for their season. What are you seeing that makes you so confident? I for one am very nervous about this game. Help me out here if you can please with some hope.

No game is an easy win in the NFL. However, the Lions will be playing without Kerryon Johnson and Marvin Jones, two key players on their offense. While the Lions had a big win last week, so did the Bears and the Bears have the better defense. Not saying we win, just saying there's a reason for some optimism even with Daniel starting. Regardless - playing 2 NFL games within an 88 hour span is going to be difficult no matter what. I actually predicted the Bears to lose this game by a FG with Trubisky playing. So we'll see if they surprise us and come out with a win.

They don't have Golden Tate anymore either... which isn't insignificant. They've only won a single game since trading him... that was a couple days ago when Carolina choked. Lions haven't had a 300 yard game since trading him. He was their leading wide receiver when he was traded, so much so that he's still their second best WR (and not by a little) even though he only played for them for 2/3 of their season so far.

On top of that, on defense both Ansah and Slay are nursing injuries.

I don't know what to expect from Daniels, but the Bears should have a pretty good chance at a W here regardless of who is at QB right now.

[Bears Whiskey Nut]

I think Daniel's job is going to be exactly how he describes it. Throw to the open receiver in the scheme, and get the ball into the hands of his playmakers as soon as possible.

If he does that, we will get a W. If he tries to push throws, and improvise, we'll be in trouble. But I don't see him doing that. He's not vying for a starting spot, he is veteran who knows EXACTLY what his role is.

[Umbali]

I " hope' that the experience of playing Mack while he was hurt and not really getting great results will just make them sit Mitch. I also hope that the adjusted game plan if we start Chase will help get our running game going the way it needs to be.

[Otis Day]

To say Daniel will be rusty is an understatement. In the past 3.5 yrs he has had 3 pass attempts (2 with KC in 2015, 1 with Philly 2016) in regular season games. I don't think he is going to create that Chicago "we love the 2nd string QB" frenzy. I just hope the O can control the ball and we can see a heavy dose of J Howard.

[BR0D1E86]

So it sounds as if the head first slide was more of the cause than the hit. Things like this bound to happen the more he runs.

FEET FIRST MY MAN!!

Yes and no, quarterbacks don't have to slide feet first to give themselves up anymore, head first slides work just the same. That was just a dirty shot by Harrison Smith.

[Mikefive]

personally I could see this going down either way.

Nagy IS sneaky.. but he's also (thankfully) very cautious with injuries.. I if this "injury" is anything more than extra soreness.. I say sit him.
No brainer.

Winning or losing the Lions game is of little consequence compared to the rest of the games thereafter.

The Bears need to NOT fuck up their playoff chances by trying to "tough it out"... even if it DOES make for a great Bears are "tough as nails" kick ass story.

Put me down in the "puss out" possibly lose the next one to win the rest of the games!

Besides... with this crazy defense & a back up that knows this offense MUCH better than Mitch & a likely refocus on running Howard = The Bears most likely STILL win this Thanksgiving game anyway.

Man times have changed. Look at what Rodgers just played through, last year Wilson played through a sprained throwing shoulder and knee. If this is more than soreness, I get it but reports say that if this was a Sunday game he would play. This game is to big not to have your franchise QB at least give try to give it a go.

To compare to Rodgers is a completely different context. In that game, the Packers were 0-0 and getting destroyed. We're currently 7-3 with a 1.5 game lead. If you figure Biscuit will be good to go for the next game, keeping him out this one makes sense after only 3 days off.

If nothing else, Daniels certainly knows the offense. And he certainly looked competent in TC. It's his cohesion with his targets after not throwing to them for 10 weeks that is the question.

Besides, who says Detroit won't be down to their backup QB by the 2nd quarter?

[EricTighe]

If Daniels play as he did in the preseason we will be fine for a game.

[Funkster]

personally I could see this going down either way.

Nagy IS sneaky.. but he's also (thankfully) very cautious with injuries.. I if this "injury" is anything more than extra soreness.. I say sit him.
No brainer.

Winning or losing the Lions game is of little consequence compared to the rest of the games thereafter.

The Bears need to NOT fuck up their playoff chances by trying to "tough it out"... even if it DOES make for a great Bears are "tough as nails" kick ass story.

Put me down in the "puss out" possibly lose the next one to win the rest of the games!

Besides... with this crazy defense & a back up that knows this offense MUCH better than Mitch & a likely refocus on running Howard = The Bears most likely STILL win this Thanksgiving game anyway.

Man times have changed. Look at what Rodgers just played through, last year Wilson played through a sprained throwing shoulder and knee. If this is more than soreness, I get it but reports say that if this was a Sunday game he would play. This game is to big not to have your franchise QB at least give try to give it a go.

To compare to Rodgers is a completely different context. In that game, the Packers were 0-0 and getting destroyed. We're currently 7-3 with a 1.5 game lead. If you figure Biscuit will be good to go for the next game, keeping him out this one makes sense after only 3 days off.

If nothing else, Daniels certainly knows the offense. And he certainly looked competent in TC. It's his cohesion with his targets after not throwing to them for 10 weeks that is the question.

Besides, who says Detroit won't be down to their backup QB by the 2nd quarter?

You would have to scrape Stafford limp body off the field from keeping him under center, just saying.

I 100% understand how sitting him makes sense, it just doesn’t look good for this coaching staffs toughness. I guess as long as their winning it’ll be ok! I would have loved to be a fly on the wall during this “it’s best you sit this one out” meeting.

Trubisky’s consecutive start total will end at a mere 22. Here is the top 5 active QB’s for consecutive starts.

Rivers 211
Ryan 150
Stafford 125
Wilson 118
Bortles 74

[docc]

So then Mack is also suspect for missing two games..and Robinson..Shaheen..others..really ?

"Look" doesn't mean anything..play the healthy..that is why teams have backups..

[Funkster]

So then Mack is also suspect for missing two games..and Robinson..Shaheen..others..really ?

"Look" doesn't mean anything..play the healthy..that is why teams have backups..

I don’t think it’s coming from the players, I believe this is Nagy’s M.O. err on the side of caution. Mack would have played himself healthy if they let him. From the reports, so would have Trubisky. Robinson is totally understandable, he’s coming back from a major injury. I can see why they would be cautious with him.

I’m just hoping this decision doesn’t come back to bite the bears in the ass. The defense and run game will have to be lights out tomorrow. Bear down!

[docc]

DETROIT — Since making his debut in the Bears’ fifth game last year, quarterback Mitch Trubisky hasn’t missed a single snap because of injury. His 22 consecutive starts marked the Bears’ longest streak for a quarterback in 26 years.

That likely ends Thursday.

Three days after Trubisky hurt his throwing shoulder on a late hit by Vikings safety Harrison Smith, the Bears listed their quarterback as doubtful for the game against the Lions.

I know what those 26 YEARS were like..don't ever want to see that again..
At my age..i will not have 26 years..

This is Bonus year for Bears..doing well better than imagined. I still don't rate us a SC contenders..maybe NFC north Champs,,which would be AMAZING..

[Funkster]

DETROIT — Since making his debut in the Bears’ fifth game last year, quarterback Mitch Trubisky hasn’t missed a single snap because of injury. His 22 consecutive starts marked the Bears’ longest streak for a quarterback in 26 years.

That likely ends Thursday.

Three days after Trubisky hurt his throwing shoulder on a late hit by Vikings safety Harrison Smith, the Bears listed their quarterback as doubtful for the game against the Lions.

I know what those 26 YEARS were like..don't ever want to see that again..
At my age..i will not have 26 years..

This is Bonus year for Bears..doing well better than imagined. I still don't rate us a SC contenders..maybe NFC north Champs,,which would be AMAZING..

I hear what you’re saying. I just think this shows weakness. I’m wondering how the other players feel about this? Russell Wilson played last season with a sprained throwing shoulder, sprained MCL and opposite sprain ankle all at once and didn’t miss a game. That’s the kinda toughness I want to see from my franchise QB, someone that will not only say they will bleed for their squad but actually do it.

I’m not saying this as a knock on Daniel, I think he will perform just fine. I’m more so thinking if and when the bears get to the playoffs, they will get punch in the mouth, they gotta be able to withstand the storm and punch back. This rest your players at the first sign of adversity doesn’t really ooze they will fight to the last whistle. Again, I don’t think this is coming from the players but it will definitely trickle down and show up on the field.

I can’t take this anymore, can it be game time already?

[Ormazd]

Mitch didn't have a great game last week, but the defense took up the slack. I expect to see the same today. All Daniels needs to do is stay out of the way and manage the game.

[malk]

You would have to scrape Stafford limp body off the field from keeping him under center, just saying.

I 100% understand how sitting him makes sense, it just doesn’t look good for this coaching staffs toughness. I guess as long as their winning it’ll be ok! I would have loved to be a fly on the wall during this “it’s best you sit this one out” meeting.

Trubisky’s consecutive start total will end at a mere 22. Here is the top 5 active QB’s for consecutive starts.

Rivers 211
Ryan 150
Stafford 125
Wilson 118
Bortles 74

Just for reference:

Player Win % Equivalent wins over 16 games
Rivers 0.559 (8.9 wins)
Ryan 0.589 (9.4 wins)
Stafford 0.474 (7.5 wins)
Wilson 0.667 (10.7 wins)
Bortles 0.338 (5.4)

That toughing it out doesn't seem to be doing anything particularly amazing for those players...

[Rusty Trombagent]

why cant mitch be tougher, like andrew luck... who basically lost two years playing through a shoulder injury.