WEEK 13 // Bears lose to Giants 30-27

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Looks like Trubisky was limited in practice today - which is better than DNP:

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Hicks is surprising to be on the list but I think he's rested his Achilles before, so I'm sure it's just precautionary.
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chase deff had some nice throws last week.

im not shook.
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The Giants have allowed a 100-yard rusher in 3 of their 4 games since trading Snacks. Jordan could break out this week working up the middle.
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All season I’ve sat back and watched teams just brutally pick on B.W Webb and his stupid hair....now I want the bears to beat on B.W Webb so bad he consideres retiring by half time... that and a hair cut
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Out again.
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I think Nagy opens up his plan for a ball control system and we see 3 guys in rotation - Howard has his best day and is featured

Bears defense will key on Barkley to shut him down and will then get 2 gifts from Eli to negate the Giants passing game

minimal scoring, heavy defense, and a Bears win in throwback fashion

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I think this is the first game where Howard will get his 20-30 carries that he needs to work up a lather. Maybe not right away, but the second half should be the Howard show.
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I think the bears will have multiple long drives that equate to field goals.

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Thursday Thoughts...

I have my concerns about this game, especially because it didn't look like anyone in our secondary/linebacker corps wanted to tackle a full-steam Blount on Thursday. For benefit of the doubt I can chalk it up to them being sore coming off the shortest rest between games in NFL history.

This game is pretty simple to me... run the ball (short passing game) and stop the run. I'd force the Giants to become one-dimensional and practically sell out to stop Barkley. If we can be fortunate enough to get an early lead on them (10-0, 14-3) then I think they will abandon the run game.

I don't care that the Giants are 3-8, they've lost 6 of their 8 games by one possession or less. I'd be thrilled if we found a way to get Jordan Howard going but I'm not exactly holding my breath... I see more of the "outside runs" via pass to Cohen/Gabriel/Miller and if the Giants react by spreading out their defense maybe a quick hitter to Howard can pick up 8-10 from time to time.

Does Chase continue to play well or does he fall back to Earth? A lot is riding on his shoulders and man... I sincerely hope the Bears' Braintrust is making the right decision by keeping MT10 out of this game. Color me nervous, but Bears pull away late.
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Chase will have a better feel for his receivers this week.
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Looks like Hicks may be out as well. NO practice for Hicks yesterday or today. Nursing achilles injury.

As for the game, UOK do you really think Howard will get that many carries? I would be surprised. I can't see Nagy giving him 10-14 more carries this game. They are averaging about 30 carries a game. I see the attempts being spread out.
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I honestly think Hicks is just being rested... that dude is an animal and he doesn't need practice reps to go out and kick everyone's ass.
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I would be shocked if he didn't go. If he doesn't, Nichols is going to have to step up in a big way.
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The Giants have not been a good football team this season, but they have improved markedly in the last stretch of games and are definitely better than their record indicates. I'm torn on the apparent decision to sit Trubisky, and am trying to get used to this team making decisions like this one.

On the road, backup QB, some injuries appear to be adding up on the defensive side of the ball as well, and we have the makings of a challenging game that I fear turning into a surprise upset.

I think this is going to be a slugfest.

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8~3 Bears @ 3~8 Giants

As with most NFL teams, they're Very rarely as good or bad as their W/L record.

The Giants Have been in most of their games.. like Many of the old school (pre~Nagy) coached teams that we've been used to.
The Giants play the slow, ball control offense (with the occasional big play) & the bend but don't break defense style that we should all be used to seeing from years past.

This is why the Giants have a crappy defense but still manage to keep teams from racking up big scores (usually).


My Pagan Prediction : (With a Surprise Ending!)

Bears Defense =
Eli Manning is going to busier than the soup lines during the depression of the 1930's!

* 6 Sacks (1 Strip/Sack/Fumble)
* 2 FF's
* 3 INT's

×1 Defensive TD & a brand new NY Themed Celebration*
* Mack Attack 3 Sacks 1 FF


Bears Offense=
Rushing total: 130 yards
Passing: 325 yards

Big Game:
A. Miller = 100+ 1 TD
The TE's= 100 yards 2 TD's

QB... Mitchell Trubiski!
325 yards/3 TD's/30 Rush

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A big question to me that isn't getting discussed is... What's the bigger factor... Daniel getting to actually practice with his targets or the Giants having tape on Daniel to exploit after last week?

As many have said, the Giants aren't good, but they're not as bad as their record implies. And they are at home. But we are 8-3, in large part because Nagy has kept the team focused in other potential trap game situations. And my bias leans positively on Daniel, as I value experienced QBs who know the system and avoid mistakes, even if they aren't THAT talented.

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Mikefive wrote:A big question to me that isn't getting discussed is... What's the bigger factor... Daniel getting to actually practice with his targets or the Giants having tape on Daniel to exploit after last week?

As many have said, the Giants aren't good, but they're not as bad as their record implies. And they are at home. But we are 8-3, in large part because Nagy has kept the team focused in other potential trap game situations. And my bias leans positively on Daniel, as I value experienced QBs who know the system and avoid mistakes, even if they aren't THAT talented.

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In the short term, it’s probably a bigger advantage for Daniel to get the reps. He hadn’t played in a couple years and had essentially zero reps with the ones.

Another week or two and I’d say it swings the other way. Hopefully we don’t have to find out though.
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For what it's worth. Evan Engram, their TE is going to be out for the game. I don't see that as a huge game changer though.
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BR0D1E86 wrote:
Mikefive wrote:A big question to me that isn't getting discussed is... What's the bigger factor... Daniel getting to actually practice with his targets or the Giants having tape on Daniel to exploit after last week?

As many have said, the Giants aren't good, but they're not as bad as their record implies. And they are at home. But we are 8-3, in large part because Nagy has kept the team focused in other potential trap game situations. And my bias leans positively on Daniel, as I value experienced QBs who know the system and avoid mistakes, even if they aren't THAT talented.

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In the short term, it’s probably a bigger advantage for Daniel to get the reps. He hadn’t played in a couple years and had essentially zero reps with the ones.

Another week or two and I’d say it swings the other way. Hopefully we don’t have to find out though.
If my Pagan insider info proves to be wrong & Daniels actually starts... I yeah, I'm not worried about the Giants getting Chase tendencies = 1 game isn't a big enough sample for them to get an accurate key on.

Besides that... Coach Nagy seems to be learning VERY quickly as a play caller & if/when that becomes an eventuality... Nagy will continue to self scout & mix it up enough to continue to cause false positives= like he's done with Mitch.

(Who's going to shock all non~pagans by starting)
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Bears Whiskey Nut wrote:For what it's worth. Evan Engram, their TE is going to be out for the game. I don't see that as a huge game changer though.
Well, nobody noticed when he was playing, so I doubt they'll notice when he isn't.
If anything, it's addition by subtraction.
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Hicks practiced in full today. Trubisky is listed as Doubtful just like last week.
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It's friday night, and I'm giddy. Only 36 hours to game time. It's been a LONG fucking time since I've been this excited about Sunday. Thank you Ryan and Matt!
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Just not feeling good about this one.
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Had a bad feeling about this game all week. Everyone thinks we will steamroll the Giants but I'm not so confident. I smell a trap here...

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Keys of the game:
Get pressure on Eli...Manning folds quicker than a cheap lawn chair when the pressure is on
Protect the football...The giants' only hope is to exploit turnovers and get points on a short field
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Weather report does not look good tomorrow in NJ. Looking like scattered thunderstorms and a lot of rain. I can't remember if The Meadowlands is natural grass or field turf. If it's grass, that may neutralize our pass rush, and make it harder for the DB's. Crappy weather does not help us.
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Bears Whiskey Nut wrote:Weather report does not look good tomorrow in NJ. Looking like scattered thunderstorms and a lot of rain. I can't remember if The Meadowlands is natural grass or field turf. If it's grass, that may neutralize our pass rush, and make it harder for the DB's. Crappy weather does not help us.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MetLife_Stadium

Its turf. Act Global Speed S5.
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Been very nervous about this game.

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Pray to god I'm wrong, because this would be very bad before LA coming to town.
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