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Re: Fangio

Posted: Fri Nov 30, 2018 9:25 pm
by Bears Whiskey Nut
I get that coordinators want to move on from their position to take the reigns of an organization. But Fangio is 60 years old. He is considered one of the best, if not THE best DC in the league. He can become famous for the defense that he puts together in Chicago, and win a SB at the same time. There has to be SOME value to accepting WHO you are and being the VERY best that you can be at that position. Not every coordinator in the league was meant to be a HC, and that's kind of where I view Fangio. He needs to realize what his shortcomings are, and make the most of what is already a GREAT situation. Do you want to be best at your position and win a SB, or do you want to be mediocre and flail around in head coaching hell.

Re: Fangio

Posted: Fri Nov 30, 2018 11:05 pm
by Pagan
Bears Whiskey Nut wrote:I get that coordinators want to move on from their position to take the reigns of an organization. But Fangio is 60 years old. He is considered one of the best, if not THE best DC in the league. He can become famous for the defense that he puts together in Chicago, and win a SB at the same time. There has to be SOME value to accepting WHO you are and being the VERY best that you can be at that position. Not every coordinator in the league was meant to be a HC, and that's kind of where I view Fangio. He needs to realize what his shortcomings are, and make the most of what is already a GREAT situation. Do you want to be best at your position and win a SB, or do you want to be mediocre and flail around in head coaching hell.
I completely agree & hope this is the path that he chooses BWN!

Re: Fangio

Posted: Sat Dec 01, 2018 4:08 pm
by Rusty Trombagent
it's funny how this is just going to be a conversation that gets rehashed every year until he finally retires. same talking points, same arguments, etc. Fangio isnt going anywhere, he's here until he retires from football or we fire him for some reason.

Re: Fangio

Posted: Sat Dec 01, 2018 5:23 pm
by mmmc_35
I would think Green Bay, Cleveland, Jets are all looking for an offensive guy. Jacksonville, Giants, Tampa could look for a guy like him. For either defensive help, or toughening up a team.

Re: Fangio

Posted: Sat Dec 01, 2018 7:42 pm
by Bears Whiskey Nut
RustyTrubisky wrote:it's funny how this is just going to be a conversation that gets rehashed every year until he finally retires. same talking points, same arguments, etc. Fangio isnt going anywhere, he's here until he retires from football or we fire him for some reason.
If McCaskey is smart. He'll hand Fangio a blank contract, and tell him to fill in the amount. Fangio needs to be the highest paid coordinator, and needs to stay with the Bears, as long as we have Khalil Mack.

Re: Fangio

Posted: Sat Dec 01, 2018 10:51 pm
by MoFugger
Bears Whiskey Nut wrote:
RustyTrubisky wrote:it's funny how this is just going to be a conversation that gets rehashed every year until he finally retires. same talking points, same arguments, etc. Fangio isnt going anywhere, he's here until he retires from football or we fire him for some reason.
If McCaskey is smart. He'll hand Fangio a blank contract, and tell him to fill in the amount. Fangio needs to be the highest paid coordinator, and needs to stay with the Bears, as long as we have Khalil Mack.
That's just silly. Good teams lose coordinators all the time. Really good ones overcome it. There are guys out there just as good that only need a chance to show it.

Re: Fangio

Posted: Sun Dec 02, 2018 10:23 am
by Rusty Trombagent
MoFugger wrote:
Bears Whiskey Nut wrote:
RustyTrubisky wrote:it's funny how this is just going to be a conversation that gets rehashed every year until he finally retires. same talking points, same arguments, etc. Fangio isnt going anywhere, he's here until he retires from football or we fire him for some reason.
If McCaskey is smart. He'll hand Fangio a blank contract, and tell him to fill in the amount. Fangio needs to be the highest paid coordinator, and needs to stay with the Bears, as long as we have Khalil Mack.
That's just silly. Good teams lose coordinators all the time. Really good ones overcome it. There are guys out there just as good that only need a chance to show it.
there are also guys who have no business being a DC in this league who we wont know about until they get the chance.
i guess if i was worried about the mccaskey's ability top buy another few summer homes i'd be concerned about how much fangio makes too???

Re: Fangio

Posted: Sun Dec 02, 2018 4:38 pm
by KOP_Snake
His defense can't even stop Eli Manning. He aint going nowhere as a head coach.

Re: Fangio

Posted: Sun Dec 02, 2018 4:43 pm
by wab
KOP_Snake wrote:His defense can't even stop Eli Manning. He aint going nowhere as a head coach.
You misspelled Saquon Barkley.

Re: Fangio

Posted: Sun Dec 02, 2018 4:48 pm
by KOP_Snake
Right, he also couldn't stop them from doing the same type of run over and over again.

Re: Fangio

Posted: Sun Dec 02, 2018 4:49 pm
by EricTighe
KOP_Snake wrote:His defense can't even stop Eli Manning. He aint going nowhere as a head coach.
Neither has Bill Belichick so should they fire him as well.

Re: Fangio

Posted: Sun Dec 02, 2018 5:37 pm
by docc
There has NEVER been a coach..owner..player..that won all the games fans think they should..

NEVER..
It's football..
On any Sunday..

Re: Fangio

Posted: Mon Dec 03, 2018 7:26 am
by VA_Mountain_Bear
Bears Whiskey Nut wrote:
RustyTrubisky wrote:it's funny how this is just going to be a conversation that gets rehashed every year until he finally retires. same talking points, same arguments, etc. Fangio isnt going anywhere, he's here until he retires from football or we fire him for some reason.
If McCaskey is smart. He'll hand Fangio a blank contract, and tell him to fill in the amount. Fangio needs to be the highest paid coordinator, and needs to stay with the Bears, as long as we have Khalil Mack.
100% agreement. I hope this happens. Pay Vic, Nagy continues letting him have the autonomy to run his D as he likes and he has none of the headaches of being HC. Have fun with a stellar D he created, and win some championships instead of having to start at square #1 again somewhere else.

Re: Fangio

Posted: Mon Dec 03, 2018 7:27 am
by VA_Mountain_Bear
wab wrote:
KOP_Snake wrote:His defense can't even stop Eli Manning. He aint going nowhere as a head coach.
You misspelled Saquon Barkley.
HAHA! Dead on Wab.

Re: Fangio

Posted: Mon Dec 03, 2018 11:43 am
by Bears Whiskey Nut
KOP_Snake wrote:His defense can't even stop Eli Manning. He aint going nowhere as a head coach.
Eli threw one TD in that game, and it was a one-yard pass. Our back-up QB had 110 more yards passing than Eli Manning did. We had two bad turnovers. We lost the TO battle by two. You want to point to something. Point to that. To say that our defense couldn't stop Eli Manning is just plain ignorant.

Re: Fangio

Posted: Mon Dec 03, 2018 3:21 pm
by Pagan
Bears Whiskey Nut wrote:
KOP_Snake wrote:His defense can't even stop Eli Manning. He aint going nowhere as a head coach.
Eli threw one TD in that game, and it was a one-yard pass. Our back-up QB had 110 more yards passing than Eli Manning did. We had two bad turnovers. We lost the TO battle by two. You want to point to something. Point to that. To say that our defense couldn't stop Eli Manning is just plain ignorant.
We'll shit... now I've got to agree with BWN again.

.NOT because I'm anti~KOP either.

Its simply because he's making non~knee-jerk, well thought out rational posts.

Totally not personal.

Re: Fangio

Posted: Mon Dec 03, 2018 3:28 pm
by Pagan
& just to reiterate...

I COMPLETELY understand in the moment/next day rage quitting/negative/drunk Bears opinion posts.

Same day/next day. Totally get it, people need to vent sometimes.

At some point though.. I also totally expect the BFO Bears fans to be able to access & peoperly use their reasoning portions of their noodle to change their temporary insanity~ rage quitting~ doom & gloom mindset & join the rest of us who are absolutely pumped about where this team is this year & more importantly... where they're going to CONTINUE to be for the next 5+ years!