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wab wrote:I watched the game again on NFLN last night/early this morning. Watching it knowing the outcome, I picked up on what a shitty first half Nagy called. I don't know if he was worried about Biscuit or if he was just outsmarting himself...but it was a weird first half. The 2nd half was a much more Nagy-like half.
Yeah, I was thinking about this today. Nagy really didn't try and exploit the Eagles banged up secondary until the 2nd half. There were a lot of stop routes, and digs, but no real shots down field. It seems to me we could have seen something like the Buccaneers game, if they had schemed it right. It also looked like Robinson was all but uncoverable once they started going to him. Should have been doing that from the start. It would have opened a lot more of the playbook.

He's a rookie head coach. Let's hope the whole team grows from this.
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What do you guys think about Nagy not using a timeout when the Eagles were on the goal line. I think there was around 1:42 left and they let about 30 seconds run out.
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Rakshir wrote:What do you guys think about Nagy not using a timeout when the Eagles were on the goal line. I think there was around 1:42 left and they let about 30 seconds run out.
Good point. I was screaming for the TO there. It worked out OK ultimately because Cohen ran the kick back to the 45. Give them the ball on the 25 and that time they lost would've mattered.
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wab wrote:I watched the game again on NFLN last night/early this morning. Watching it knowing the outcome, I picked up on what a shitty first half Nagy called. I don't know if he was worried about Biscuit or if he was just outsmarting himself...but it was a weird first half. The 2nd half was a much more Nagy-like half.
Yeah, I was thinking about this today. Nagy really didn't try and exploit the Eagles banged up secondary until the 2nd half. There were a lot of stop routes, and digs, but no real shots down field. It seems to me we could have seen something like the Buccaneers game, if they had schemed it right. It also looked like Robinson was all but uncoverable once they started going to him. Should have been doing that from the start. It would have opened a lot more of the playbook.

He's a rookie head coach. Let's hope the whole team grows from this.
Exactly, first playoff game as a HC, he was probably second guessing himself all week.

I would have liked to see them run the ball more throughout the game. Eagles D was giving up 4+ yds a carry all year.

Oh well, you live and learn. Great year, far exceeded my expectations.
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GSH wrote:if only the coaches had told him " cody, thats not what we mean by the POST season"
HAH, thank you for this -- I needed that.
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After he missed that kick, I was holding onto my wife and my dog, I thought for a brief second that the ball hit the bottom post and ricocheted in but nope. I just felt my heart go dead so I stood up, calmly took off my jersey and hung it back up in my closet, sat back down on the couch and put my head in my hands.

Typical. Fucking. Bears.

Wake up today and head out to work and it's gray, overcast, and cold ran hitting me in the face. Thank you, football Gods.
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I'm not mad at Parkey. We knew he was our biggest liability and in no way should have been asked to kick with the game on the line. Kickers miss, it's just part of the gig. That said, he does need to go. Maybe a move will help him fix his mojo like Gould did after we cut him.

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G08 wrote:After he missed that kick, I was holding onto my wife and my dog, I thought for a brief second that the ball hit the bottom post and ricocheted in but nope. I just felt my heart go dead so I stood up, calmly took off my jersey and hung it back up in my closet, sat back down on the couch and put my head in my hands.

Typical. Fucking. Bears.

Wake up today and head out to work and it's gray, overcast, and cold ran hitting me in the face. Thank you, football Gods.
I know in my heart of hearts that the Bears weren't winning the SB this year. I think it's easier on me to have the Bears take an early exit than to lose in the NFC Championship or something. I told myself going into the game that I was happy with the season and i would not let myself get disappointed with whatever happened.

But... like I told you last night, losing like THIS just hurts. I would have been fine with a failed 4th down, a pick, a fumble by anyone, the Eagles just outright winning. Just not clanking one off the upright. I hate it.

And I get to listen to sound clips of Chris Collinsworth saying "double doink" until the end of days.
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I put this loss primarily on Nagy and specifically the play calling in the first half. I look back to December and the success they had with the combo of a steady diet of Howard on first down combined with the unpredictable use of Cohen to keep teams off balance which led to a lot of short 3rd down scenarios. They got away from that yesterday and, as much as I like Nagy, I think he outsmarts himself sometimes.
Defense played great.
Parkey should never been in that situation.
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I hate that fucking word, "doink." I have heard it thousands of times in the past 12 hrs, I am fucking over it.

I agree losing without a FG attempt at the end would have been a much better loss (strange to say).

G08, I am confused by your term, "typical Bears." Not trying to start shit, but this team was atypical from past years. The past 8 yrs they didn't sniff the playoffs. Not getting to the playoffs and sucking hind tit would be more typical to me.
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Otis Day wrote:G08, I am confused by your term, "typical Bears." Not trying to start shit, but this team was atypical from past years. The past 8 yrs they didn't sniff the playoffs. Not getting to the playoffs and sucking hind tit would be more typical to me.
You're not wrong, but the end result feeling of being kicked in the gut to either get into or advance in the playoffs is the same. Feels just as bad, if not worse, than Rodgers' bomb to Randall Cobb to knock us out of a playoff berth.

I feel like I'm more deflated than I am elated at the end of NFL seasons with this team of mine.

I do think this is the start of something great, God willing we stay healthy, but I just don't think we can look at playoff berths like a gift-horse in the mouth. Nobody is promised anything and the fucking fact that we lost by 1 point even though we had a 43 yard FG to advance just burns me up.
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G08 wrote:After he missed that kick, I was holding onto my wife and my dog, I thought for a brief second that the ball hit the bottom post and ricocheted in but nope. I just felt my heart go dead so I stood up, calmly took off my jersey and hung it back up in my closet, sat back down on the couch and put my head in my hands.

Typical. Fucking. Bears.

Wake up today and head out to work and it's gray, overcast, and cold ran hitting me in the face. Thank you, football Gods.
I know in my heart of hearts that the Bears weren't winning the SB this year. I think it's easier on me to have the Bears take an early exit than to lose in the NFC Championship or something. I told myself going into the game that I was happy with the season and i would not let myself get disappointed with whatever happened.

But... like I told you last night, losing like THIS just hurts. I would have been fine with a failed 4th down, a pick, a fumble by anyone, the Eagles just outright winning. Just not clanking one off the upright. I hate it.

And I get to listen to sound clips of Chris Collinsworth saying "double doink" until the end of days.
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Same here, I felt we were playing with House $ and I was just happy to see all the great exposure the Bears got... Regardless, it still ripped my heart out the way we loss.. Anywho.... 4 more weeks of Football that I at this point don't care about and superbowl party to remind me how close we were... I am just happy we didn't shit ourselves....
on a side note, my little 4 year old daughter had seen I was pretty bummed out after the loss... As I was sitting drinking my Cocktail reading up on the loss... She sat to me, in her pink Bear Shirt saying that everything was going to be ok.... and that they'll win Next week.... Spoken like a true Bear fan!
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G08 wrote:After he missed that kick, I was holding onto my wife and my dog, I thought for a brief second that the ball hit the bottom post and ricocheted in but nope. I just felt my heart go dead so I stood up, calmly took off my jersey and hung it back up in my closet, sat back down on the couch and put my head in my hands.

Typical. Fucking. Bears.

Wake up today and head out to work and it's gray, overcast, and cold ran hitting me in the face. Thank you, football Gods.
I know in my heart of hearts that the Bears weren't winning the SB this year. I think it's easier on me to have the Bears take an early exit than to lose in the NFC Championship or something. I told myself going into the game that I was happy with the season and i would not let myself get disappointed with whatever happened.

But... like I told you last night, losing like THIS just hurts. I would have been fine with a failed 4th down, a pick, a fumble by anyone, the Eagles just outright winning. Just not clanking one off the upright. I hate it.

And I get to listen to sound clips of Chris Collinsworth saying "double doink" until the end of days.
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Same here, I felt we were playing with House $ and I was just happy to see all the great exposure the Bears got... Regardless, it still ripped my heart out the way we loss.. Anywho.... 4 more weeks of Football that I at this point don't care about and superbowl party to remind me how close we were... I am just happy we didn't shit ourselves....
on a side note, my little 4 year old daughter had seen I was pretty bummed out after the loss... As I was sitting drinking my Cocktail reading up on the loss... She sat to me, in her pink Bear Shirt saying that everything was going to be ok.... and that they'll win Next week.... Spoken like a true Bear fan!
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Anyone else still feeling totally rotten this morning?

If Philly had straight up beat the Bears and the game was over early in the second half I think it would be a lot easier to take than what we got last night.

I'm sure as the sting of this loss fades it will be easier to appreciate the 12-4 season we got to experience as fans, and the excitement of being in the post season (with a home game no less), even if the result wasn't what we all wanted.
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WagonForce wrote:Anyone else still feeling totally rotten this morning?

If Philly had straight up beat the Bears and the game was over early in the second half I think it would be a lot easier to take than what we got last night.

I'm sure as the sting of this loss fades it will be easier to appreciate the 12-4 season we got to experience as fans, and the excitement of being in the post season (with a home game no less), even if the result wasn't what we all wanted.
Yep. Fucking miserable SOB today.
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I didn't sleep much. As much as I tried not to be, I was really heartbroken last night. On one hand there was the disappointment that it was over. I wasn't ready for it to be over. On the other hand, there is genuine excitement that this team is probably a kicker away from being one of the 4-5 best teams in football.
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I've had the better part of 18 hours to process and I'm over it. Actually, I feel like I've taken it surprisingly well. Normally after a game like this I can't sleep - replaying missed opportunities over and over in my head. I think it helped that the game ended by 7, and I was able to get out a little frustration through my weight lifting program.

Taken in the larger context of things, I expected this to be a fringe playoff team that went 9-7 at the beginning of the season, and they exceeded those expectations and provided me with the first really fun, (enjoyably) memorable season in almost a decade.

It hurts more because this is a game they absolutely should have won, but they didn't. Parkey deserves blame, but you make 4 trips into the opponents' red zone and come away with 3 FGs, you're setting yourself up to lose - especially to a playoff team. I can't fault the defense much, even though they had some bad plays that really hurt; when you hold a playoff team to under your season-long average points allowed and you don't win? That's on the offense to score some damn points.

Looking forward, I thought Trubisky played pretty well and made some big-time throws when they needed it most. Yes, there were some "lucky to not have been picked" throws that are worrisome, but he stood in the pocket and was very accurate towards the end of the game. That, more than anything, has me smiling today. I'm really looking forward to the strides he will make in his 2nd year in this offense - if he can get better throwing to his 2nd and 3rd reads and making plays with his arm if things aren't open in the first 3 seconds, look out NFL. Hopefully Vic doesn't get a job elsewhere (I mean, I'll be happy for him if he does, but I'm still selfish here) and the team stays similarly healthy next year while retaining some of their top FAs.
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WagonForce wrote:Anyone else still feeling totally rotten this morning?
I'm not gonna lie.... the super sleepy tired Monday mornings (staying up to the early hours of the morning, watching the game on GamePass on the laptop in bed) have been much easier recently after watching us win...
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wab wrote:I didn't sleep much. As much as I tried not to be, I was really heartbroken last night. On one hand there was the disappointment that it was over. I wasn't ready for it to be over. On the other hand, there is genuine excitement that this team is probably a kicker away from being one of the 4-5 best teams in football.



I feel this is probably the consensus. Watching Parkey this season, we all knew he wasn’t to be trusted. If not for his total lack to make what should be easy kicks for NFL caliber kickers, the bears could of only lost 1 regular season game and would still be in the playoffs.

He said he adjusted for the wind? Why? The first kick was money, all you had to do is the exact same thing. Kickers love the opportunity to get a faux kick off when being iced. This guy seems to say all the right things but he’s a mental midget. His confidence is shaky and when a team is going to rely on defense to play a close game, your kicker has to be cold as ice and confident in his ability.

My other questions:

where was Burton? Groin injury? Really? What did you pull it getting out of bed? Your team needed you?

Cohen, you’re supposed to be our electrifying jack of all trades features player? He was silent all game.

Howard, only 10 carries?

Why not activate Wims? Going into a game knowing both Gabriel and Miller weren’t 100% has this decision as a head scratcher. I feel the bears need another different type of player at WR. Too many of the same type , Gabriel, Miller and Cohen.
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Funkster wrote: Why not activate Wims? Going into a game knowing both Gabriel and Miller weren’t 100% has this decision as a head scratcher. I feel the bears need another different type of player at WR. Too many of the same type , Gabriel, Miller and Cohen.
This was a huge question for me. If you weren't going to play Jackson, why activate him? Activate Wims and create two large mismatches against a questionable secondary.
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wab wrote:I didn't sleep much. As much as I tried not to be, I was really heartbroken last night. On one hand there was the disappointment that it was over. I wasn't ready for it to be over. On the other hand, there is genuine excitement that this team is probably a kicker away from being one of the 4-5 best teams in football.
You said it man. A lot of rolling over and over for me too.
Bears Whiskey Nut wrote:Why not activate Wims? Going into a game knowing both Gabriel and Miller weren’t 100% has this decision as a head scratcher. I feel the bears need another different type of player at WR. Too many of the same type , Gabriel, Miller and Cohen.
Thought the same thing. And why not use Cohen more? he's been the most electrifying and difficult to defend players we have. Should have used him more.
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Funkster wrote: Why not activate Wims? Going into a game knowing both Gabriel and Miller weren’t 100% has this decision as a head scratcher. I feel the bears need another different type of player at WR. Too many of the same type , Gabriel, Miller and Cohen.
This was a huge question for me. If you weren't going to play Jackson, why activate him? Activate Wims and create two large mismatches against a questionable secondary.
My guess is if something happened to Amos or Bush they liked a gimpy Jackson over the next man up.
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I was at work during the second half. And I had a trainee so I had to keep it professional. I managed to find a tv just in time to watch the iced kick sail through the uprights, followed by Parkey’s signature miss.

Then some guy broke into a little house in the mountains and barricaded and started trying to blow it up with propane to keep us away, so that took my mind off of it.
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BR0D1E86 wrote:I was at work during the second half. And I had a trainee so I had to keep it professional. I managed to find a tv just in time to watch the iced kick sail through the uprights, followed by Parkey’s signature miss.

Then some guy broke into a little house in the mountains and barricaded and started trying to blow it up with propane to keep us away, so that took my mind off of it.
Sorry I was upset with the kick and needed to rage a bit.
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I much like the rest of you have been pretty miserable all day. Replaying that FG in my head over and over and envisioning it going in rather than the miss. Ugh, what a brutal way to end the season. Trubisky played a heckuva 2nd half after Nagy decided to not call plays like he was scared. Felt like Fox/Loggains were calling the plays in the 1st half. Exploited their secondary too late IMO, cost us some TD's in the 1st half which most likely wouldn't have put us in a position to rely on Parkey making a GW FG.

Also, the refs screwed us at the end of the 1st half, calling the pass incomplete, no one ran to scoop up the ball - not even the Eagles defenders - lost a chance for a potential TD to end the first half.

That being said, a 43 yard FG is a FG an NFL kicker SHOULD make. There aren't any excuses for Parkey. He missed 11 kicks this year, was the weak link of our team and it was just a shame that we had to rely on him to continue the season. Overall, though, I was pleased with how Mitch stepped up in a playoff game in a tense moment. He didn't wilt away and was able to put the team in position to win the game at the end.

I look forward to the Trubisky/Nagy relationship moving forward and think Trubisky takes a big jump in year 2 of the offense. The future is still bright, even though it's doom and gloom today. I think we have a pretty nice window to compete in the next 3 years with Trubisky on a rookie deal. It all depends on his growth within the offense so that Nagy can trust him more early on in big games by being more aggressive vs. waiting until it's too late to attack teams down field. I think 10 takes that next step and will change the tune of his haters in the national media.
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VA_Mountain_Bear wrote:
wab wrote:I didn't sleep much. As much as I tried not to be, I was really heartbroken last night. On one hand there was the disappointment that it was over. I wasn't ready for it to be over. On the other hand, there is genuine excitement that this team is probably a kicker away from being one of the 4-5 best teams in football.
You said it man. A lot of rolling over and over for me too.
Bears Whiskey Nut wrote:Why not activate Wims? Going into a game knowing both Gabriel and Miller weren’t 100% has this decision as a head scratcher. I feel the bears need another different type of player at WR. Too many of the same type , Gabriel, Miller and Cohen.
Thought the same thing. And why not use Cohen more? he's been the most electrifying and difficult to defend players we have. Should have used him more.


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Bush looked pretty good from my one viewing, that likely seals Amos' fate with us.
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BeattieFeathers wrote:
VA_Mountain_Bear wrote:
wab wrote:I didn't sleep much. As much as I tried not to be, I was really heartbroken last night. On one hand there was the disappointment that it was over. I wasn't ready for it to be over. On the other hand, there is genuine excitement that this team is probably a kicker away from being one of the 4-5 best teams in football.
You said it man. A lot of rolling over and over for me too.
Bears Whiskey Nut wrote:Why not activate Wims? Going into a game knowing both Gabriel and Miller weren’t 100% has this decision as a head scratcher. I feel the bears need another different type of player at WR. Too many of the same type , Gabriel, Miller and Cohen.
Thought the same thing. And why not use Cohen more? he's been the most electrifying and difficult to defend players we have. Should have used him more.



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Dam..wish you told me.. I wasted emotions for 64 YEARS..watching the Bears live..TV..listen on radio..read everything I could in papers..
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Umbali wrote:
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VA_Mountain_Bear wrote:
wab wrote:I didn't sleep much. As much as I tried not to be, I was really heartbroken last night. On one hand there was the disappointment that it was over. I wasn't ready for it to be over. On the other hand, there is genuine excitement that this team is probably a kicker away from being one of the 4-5 best teams in football.
You said it man. A lot of rolling over and over for me too.
Bears Whiskey Nut wrote:Why not activate Wims? Going into a game knowing both Gabriel and Miller weren’t 100% has this decision as a head scratcher. I feel the bears need another different type of player at WR. Too many of the same type , Gabriel, Miller and Cohen.
Thought the same thing. And why not use Cohen more? he's been the most electrifying and difficult to defend players we have. Should have used him more.



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