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PostPosted: Mon Jan 07, 2019 6:19 pm 
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They should of spiked it on 2nd and 2 to save clock and the TO, with 15 seconds left you were not really getting 2 full plays before a FG anyways. Run a play with 2 shots in the end zone and one check down, use TO if need be.

Whatver though... O got the ball in range, it was all on Doink.


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PostPosted: Tue Jan 08, 2019 8:46 am 
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Really happy with the game, wasn't too big for him and that playoff experience is invaluable (oh for two games plus of it though!).

This all said, he needs to cut down on the interceptable balls. His TD % went up from 2.1% to 5.5%, part development and part being in an actual NFL offence. However, his INT% also went up to 2.8% from 2.1%. That needs to come down to under 2% or the overall TD to INT ratio needs to be 5:2 or better, i.e. he needs to throw 2.5 TDs for every interception, minimum and get it to 3:1 to be in there with the elite QBs. As a snapshot, if you sort by TD/INT this is the list of QBs:


































NoPlayerTD/INTTD%Int%
1Aaron Rodgers*14.004.20.3
2Drew Brees*6.506.51
3Russell Wilson5.138.21.6
4Matt Ryan4.835.81.2
5Patrick Mahomes*4.108.62.1
6Carson Wentz3.065.21.7
7Kirk Cousins2.9451.7
8Deshaun Watson2.835.11.8
9Dak Prescott2.804.21.5
10Jared Goff*2.715.72.1
11Tom Brady*2.685.11.9
12Andrew Luck2.656.12.3
13Philip Rivers*2.636.32.4
14Ben Roethlisberger2.0852.4
15Joe Flacco2.003.21.6
16Alex Smith2.0031.5
17Mitchell Trubisky1.965.52.8
18Andy Dalton1.935.83
19Baker Mayfield1.935.62.9
20Matthew Stafford1.903.82
21Eli Manning1.893.61.9
22Derek Carr1.893.41.8
23Ryan Tannehill1.886.23.3
24Cam Newton1.825.12.8
25Ryan Fitzpatrick1.416.94.9
26Marcus Mariota1.383.32.4
27Jameis Winston1.3553.7
28Nick Mullens1.314.73.6
29Case Keenum1.193.12.6
30Blake Bortles1.193.22.7
31Sam Darnold1.144.13.6
32Josh Allen0.823.13.8
33Josh Rosen0.782.83.6



I'm not at all saying it's everything but that list doesn't look massively off to me. Now since this was Trubisky's first year playing in a proper NFL offence, and Nagy didn't have huge experience calling it (and Robinson, Gabriel, Miller, Burton etc. were all new to the team) I see no reason why I can't expect to see a 2.5 ratio and hope for something like 6% TD and 2% interception.

If that happens, next year will be really exciting.

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PostPosted: Tue Jan 08, 2019 12:40 pm 
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Trubisky's arrow is pointing up - I don't care what Colin Cowherd, Deion Sanders, Shannon Sharpe or LaDainian Tomlinson, etc. say about him. He's growing, he's got the potential to be a pretty good QB in this league - maybe top 10 or top 5 one day IMO. If he refines his skills within the offense and stays consistent, he's got the talent to have a great career, IMO.

I have confidence in Matt Nagy to get Mitch to that point. One thing about Mitch is that that he has the desire to be great. He said after the game that this will make him hungrier to be better in the offseason and that he's just scratching the surface.

Is he Pat Mahomes? No. But Mitch is definitely no slouch.

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PostPosted: Tue Jan 08, 2019 12:41 pm 
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Really happy with the game, wasn't too big for him and that playoff experience is invaluable (oh for two games plus of it though!).

This all said, he needs to cut down on the interceptable balls. His TD % went up from 2.1% to 5.5%, part development and part being in an actual NFL offence. However, his INT% also went up to 2.8% from 2.1%. That needs to come down to under 2% or the overall TD to INT ratio needs to be 5:2 or better, i.e. he needs to throw 2.5 TDs for every interception, minimum and get it to 3:1 to be in there with the elite QBs. As a snapshot, if you sort by TD/INT this is the list of QBs:


































NoPlayerTD/INTTD%Int%
1Aaron Rodgers*14.004.20.3
2Drew Brees*6.506.51
3Russell Wilson5.138.21.6
4Matt Ryan4.835.81.2
5Patrick Mahomes*4.108.62.1
6Carson Wentz3.065.21.7
7Kirk Cousins2.9451.7
8Deshaun Watson2.835.11.8
9Dak Prescott2.804.21.5
10Jared Goff*2.715.72.1
11Tom Brady*2.685.11.9
12Andrew Luck2.656.12.3
13Philip Rivers*2.636.32.4
14Ben Roethlisberger2.0852.4
15Joe Flacco2.003.21.6
16Alex Smith2.0031.5
17Mitchell Trubisky1.965.52.8
18Andy Dalton1.935.83
19Baker Mayfield1.935.62.9
20Matthew Stafford1.903.82
21Eli Manning1.893.61.9
22Derek Carr1.893.41.8
23Ryan Tannehill1.886.23.3
24Cam Newton1.825.12.8
25Ryan Fitzpatrick1.416.94.9
26Marcus Mariota1.383.32.4
27Jameis Winston1.3553.7
28Nick Mullens1.314.73.6
29Case Keenum1.193.12.6
30Blake Bortles1.193.22.7
31Sam Darnold1.144.13.6
32Josh Allen0.823.13.8
33Josh Rosen0.782.83.6



I'm not at all saying it's everything but that list doesn't look massively off to me. Now since this was Trubisky's first year playing in a proper NFL offence, and Nagy didn't have huge experience calling it (and Robinson, Gabriel, Miller, Burton etc. were all new to the team) I see no reason why I can't expect to see a 2.5 ratio and hope for something like 6% TD and 2% interception.

If that happens, next year will be really exciting.


Totally agree. That is something he needs to work on and I think it comes with more experience in the same offense and scheme.

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PostPosted: Tue Jan 08, 2019 1:00 pm 
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Mitch soundly outplayed media darling Nick Foles. But it's the Bears, and the pregame guys will always hesitate to give a Bears QB any credit.


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PostPosted: Tue Jan 08, 2019 10:15 pm 
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He could just throw balls nowhere near anyone like rogers did all season.


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PostPosted: Wed Jan 09, 2019 8:33 am 
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You can throw the whole season out the window on Mitch. Who he was last year, is not who he is going to be in 2019. He is going to have a whole offseason with Nagy and Hellfrich. Nagy is going to dig deep into the mind of Trubisky, and find out what his mindset was in the 4th quarter of the Wild Card game, because that was pretty damn heroic. And honestly, I think it is all mental for mitch right now.

In the 4th quarter of the Eagles game, Mitch stopped thinking, and tried to win. He stopped worrying about throwing interceptions, and started letting the ball go without hesitation. It wasn't a instant mindset change, he was a prisoner of the moment. But the QB that we saw in the last 10:00 min of the game is who Mitch is, and I am confident that Nagy can get him there full time.

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PostPosted: Wed Jan 09, 2019 12:37 pm 
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Trubisky's playoff game can be distilled into that final drive

no time outs and the Bears had to gain about 30 yards against a defense that knew he had to throw ... he couldn't afford costly mistakes ... and he stepped up and got the job done

I thought he had a very good game ... yeah, it would have been nice if they could have gotten TD's instead of FG's but the Philly defense was not making things easy

a throwback defense oriented game that came down to a final play on a final drive ... and Trubisky did his part on that drive

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PostPosted: Wed Jan 09, 2019 4:38 pm 
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Boris13c wrote:
Trubisky's playoff game can be distilled into that final drive

no time outs and the Bears had to gain about 30 yards against a defense that knew he had to throw ... he couldn't afford costly mistakes ... and he stepped up and got the job done

I thought he had a very good game ... yeah, it would have been nice if they could have gotten TD's instead of FG's but the Philly defense was not making things easy

a throwback defense oriented game that came down to a final play on a final drive ... and Trubisky did his part on that drive


I think he did a great job considering Trey Burton fucked Nagy's gameplan.

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Bears Whiskey Nut wrote:
Boris13c wrote:
Trubisky's playoff game can be distilled into that final drive

no time outs and the Bears had to gain about 30 yards against a defense that knew he had to throw ... he couldn't afford costly mistakes ... and he stepped up and got the job done

I thought he had a very good game ... yeah, it would have been nice if they could have gotten TD's instead of FG's but the Philly defense was not making things easy

a throwback defense oriented game that came down to a final play on a final drive ... and Trubisky did his part on that drive


I think he did a great job considering Trey Burton fucked Nagy's gameplan.


Y-Iso is one of Nagy's favorite play designs and he uses it to free up Cohen, I am 100% confident Burton missing the game fucked us.

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