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It occurred to me last night that maybe the Bears job isn't such a good one, since they're already at the top. Therefore, as the new sheriff in town, there's nowhere to go but down. And you know you're following a legend in Fangio.

Compare to Tampa, whose defense was SO bad. They have nowhere to go but up.

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Mikefive wrote:It occurred to me last night that maybe the Bears job isn't such a good one, since they're already at the top. Therefore, as the new sheriff in town, there's nowhere to go but down. And you know you're following a legend in Fangio.

Compare to Tampa, whose defense was SO bad. They have nowhere to go but up.

:(
Meh. Player for player, the Bears are a much better option. Bad players get good coaches fired.

Bowles had already told Arians he'd join him in Tampa. His word is the reason he's there.
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thunderspirit wrote:Bowles had already told Arians he'd join him in Tampa. His word is the reason he's there.
Had Vic been announced as the Broncos HC 12 hours earlier, Bowles would probably be the Bears DC.
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Apparently Al Harris' name is popping up. *shrug*
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I guess we will get that due to the KC connection.

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Otis Day wrote:I guess we will get that due to the KC connection.

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The Andy Reid Connection runs deep. Harris played for Reid in Philly before he was on the KC staff with Nagy.
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wab wrote:Apparently Al Harris' name is popping up. *shrug*
Who!?
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wab wrote:Apparently Al Harris' name is popping up. *shrug*
The same Al Harris who held out with Todd Bell and missed the '85 season? :o
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G08 wrote:
wab wrote:Apparently Al Harris' name is popping up. *shrug*
Who!?
Former Eagles/Packers all pro corner... current secondary coach of the Chiefs. Served on the same staff with Nagy since 2013.
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wab wrote:Apparently Al Harris' name is popping up. *shrug*
The same Al Harris who held out with Todd Bell and missed the '85 season? :o
That Al Harris only coached for 2 season under Singletary at SF. He was a DL, pass rush specialist. Has not coached since to my knowledge.
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wab wrote:Ok, does it bother anyone that he’s only had 4 top 10 defenses in 16 years?
Honestly not sure. Was he given a bunch of shit players and told..' make them good?"
He only had good players four out of 16 years?
lol i dunno..never followed him much. Just as a curious side note, how many years did Fangio have a top 10 D?
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wab wrote:Ok, does it bother anyone that he’s only had 4 top 10 defenses in 16 years?
Honestly not sure. Was he given a bunch of shit players and told..' make them good?"
He only had good players four out of 16 years?
lol i dunno..never followed him much. Just as a curious side note, how many years did Fangio have a top 10 D?
8 times if I counted right (in terms of yards per game). 19 seasons as a DC.

I’m far too ignorant of the candidates to make an educated decision. Got to trust Pace and Nagy.
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thunderspirit wrote:Bowles had already told Arians he'd join him in Tampa. His word is the reason he's there.
Had Vic been announced as the Broncos HC 12 hours earlier, Bowles would probably be the Bears DC.
Apparently Bowles told Arians six weeks ago, that if he got a HC gig, he would be his DC. We never really had a shot at him. Bowles agent was using the availability of the Chicago position as a bargaining tool to complete some language they wanted in the Tampa contract.


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Here's what's driving me nuts about this process... What the H-E-double hockey sticks is happening? Are we interviewing people for our DC opening? If so, who? If not, why not? Are we waiting for coaches who are still in the playoffs? What is the freaking plan??? Image
Of course, we also know a number of things about Ryan Pace. 1. He has a plan and goes all in. 2. He is the stealthiest mofo around, so it's entirely possible that we're not going to know until it's about game over. And that's OK.
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Mikefive wrote:Here's what's driving me nuts about this process... What the H-E-double hockey sticks is happening? Are we interviewing people for our DC opening? If so, who? If not, why not? Are we waiting for coaches who are still in the playoffs? What is the freaking plan??? Image
Of course, we also know a number of things about Ryan Pace. 1. He has a plan and goes all in. 2. He is the stealthiest mofo around, so it's entirely possible that we're not going to know until it's about game over. And that's OK.
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lol that sums up both ways i feel lol
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Mikefive wrote:... we also know a number of things about Ryan Pace. 1. He has a plan and goes all in. 2. He is the stealthiest mofo around, so it's entirely possible that we're not going to know until it's about game over ...
Yep.

And add the fact that Pace is always hyper-prepared. I wouldn't be surprised to learn that he has been planning for the possibility of Fangio's departure for months. I fully expect that he has a list of candidates that he's been keeping tabs on for a while.

I am also confident that he is not going to make (or allow) any personnel decisions that are going to disrupt the culture that he and Nagy are building.

I totally trust Pace on this.
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My guess is that they are waiting to see what happens with Donatell in the next few days


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Vic Fangio said he hasn't finalized any assistant jobs.
Curious to see whether Ed Donatell and other #Bears assistants join him.
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Vic Fangio said he learned a lot from Matt Nagy on how to handle being a first-year head coach. “The Bears are lucky to have him,” Fangio said.
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Bears Whiskey Nut wrote:My guess is that they are waiting to see what happens with Donatell in the next few days
I'm sure that's part of it.

Also, both the Chiefs and (ugh) Eagles are still in the playoffs.
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Bears Whiskey Nut wrote:My guess is that they are waiting to see what happens with Donatell in the next few days
I'm sure that's part of it.

Also, both the Chiefs and (ugh) Eagles are still in the playoffs.
The chiefs have a defensive coordinator?
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Bears Whiskey Nut wrote:My guess is that they are waiting to see what happens with Donatell in the next few days
I'm sure that's part of it.

Also, both the Chiefs and (ugh) Eagles are still in the playoffs.
The chiefs have a defensive coordinator?
It’s hard to believe, but yes I believe they do.


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They have someone assigned to that title, yes.

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The #Bears interviewed secondary coach Ed Donatell for the defensive coordinator position today. Former Indy coach Chuck Pagano is believed to be on their radar and could be the top external candidate.
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The #Bears interviewed secondary coach Ed Donatell for the defensive coordinator position today. Former Indy coach Chuck Pagano is believed to be on their radar and could be the top external candidate.
I have to say no don’t know a lot about Chuck Pagano’s schemes. I do know, if left to his own devices, he could probably run that side of the ball with out any issues.


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i think thats a good point actually whiskey. i wonder how much of the good stuff nagy got done this year was because he didnt have to think about the D at all and left vic to his own devices. you have to think the best replacement will be a DC that can also be one that runs a 3-4 and can be left to do his thing without nagy needing to get too involved.

slim pickings though now, right?
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If it's me my first move is to look to promote from within. It would make the most sense to have as few changes in scheme and play calling as possible. Let' not make what we have worse.

If Pace and Nagy are at all interested in him they should sit down with Ed Donatell and discuss an offer. The news tends to indicate they did that today and if Fangio is also interested in him as his DC I'm thinking he'll want to at least discuss that with him.

If Donatell chooses to leave next up for me would be guys like Chuck Pagano, Jay Rodgers, maybe Steve Wilks or they look at younger guys who have less experience but are rising fast. Whoever might think like and coach like Vic should probably be on the list.
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GSH wrote:i think thats a good point actually whiskey. i wonder how much of the good stuff nagy got done this year was because he didnt have to think about the D at all and left vic to his own devices. you have to think the best replacement will be a DC that can also be one that runs a 3-4 and can be left to do his thing without nagy needing to get too involved.

slim pickings though now, right?
With where the Bears are in the development of Mitch, and this offense. Nagy just needs a guy that can come in, set up shop and go to work. Nagy can't be trying to manage the training of a new DC, manage his second year as a HC, while trying to teach Mitch and Co. the offense. I do think Donatell can come in and do it. Not sure of other younger options around the league. An ex-HC option like Pagano or Del Rio certainly can as well.
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Rodgers doesn't inspire me, for whatever reason. Not that this is the reason why, but he was the defensive coordinator in that Packers/Eagles playoff game when McNabb converted 4th and 26.

Pagano has that Ravens background which I am starting to love the more I research top defense in the NFL the past decade. He might be my dude and I don't anticipate him getting another HC job anytime soon (I've been wrong before).
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