Nagy reactions to Parkey and Hunt

[Pagan]

Parkey:
Before the weird "me 1st" PR stunt, & that's exactly what it was..
I would've said that the kid has a proven history of being a successful professional kicker, he had a slump year... like MLB pitchers or batters & would do well with an offseason reset with a bit of camp competition.

There was still a decent chance of team backing him up & him proving himself.. like K. Fuller or wabs favorite = C. Leno!

I don't care about how polite or thoughtful the kid came off on a staged daytime talkshow interview.
& his religious affiliation has even LESS to do with anything football related.

Im betting that most football fans don't like the "living by my faith " slogan because.. it doesn't mean anything.
Or more precisely... it can LITERALLY mean everything.

There's no war on faith & every religion has their ideal of faith.

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That nonsense out of the way..
The real problem with Parkeys interview is exactly what coach Nagy said when he publicly "undressed" the kicker with what.. 9 words?

It was a ME thing, not a we thing".

The culture change that Pace & Nagy have brought is Team 1st.
Obseesed with Chicago Bears 1st teamwork.

Nagy & the teammates had Parkeys back through every missed FG.. Every chipshot extra point.

Hell... even after the offense moved the ball (last 2 min game winning drive) down field to win the game, I believe something some of you criticized Mitch for not showing yet, to set up Parkey to do his job & steal the win...
Parkey & the ST's as a whole failed to do their jobs... Nagy & teammates.. to a man, was Team 1st.

Only 5 days after the teams Super Bowl dreams were crushed.. Cody Parkey is putting himself out there, trying to create some kind of... personal success/survivor story.
It IS an insult to the Team.

It's NOT about Parkey, its about the team.
Parkeys comments should've been kept similiar than that of his team & teammates.
He was being selfish so soon after the loss to make it all about himself.

So maybe we should all be doing our part of not over sensationalizing his personal demeanor, religious preference or Coach Nagys simple "we before me" mantra.

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Hunt... yeah, the 2 questions were asked in the same 45 min presser.

The response differences are different, logically because.. They're Different situations.

The only people looking for a connection are the ones with ulterior motives.

[Atkins&Rebel]

My observations regarding Hunt:
Nagy and Pace want him, but need to be able to trust him, so Hunt will need to provide proof that he's addressed his past behavior (ie, counselling, seeking forgiveness, being contrite about his role in past behavior).
In general, Alcohol and drugs do not excuse horrible behavior, but they do tend to go hand in hand with making stupidly poor choices. If a person were to commit to staying clean, a second chance is easy to grant, and Hunt doesn't strike me as a Josh Gordon situation.

[G08]

FWIW, the kid has sought help for his anger and alcohol issues. So that's a plus if he genuinely means it and it's not some PR play.

[G08]

Another way to put this Kareem Hunt potential move in light... how does he stack up to RBs in this draft class and free agency?

He likely will be suspended for 6 games or so and come with baggage, but for us he'll be cheap, a perfect fit, AND has history/success with this coach.

FA:
TJ Yeldon
Alex Collins
Ameer Abdullah
Tevin Coleman
Ty Montgomery
Jay Ajayi
Spencer Ware


Draft:
Justice Hill (small)
Bryce Love (injured)
Elijah Holyfield (weed/paraphernalia arrest)

[AZ_Bearfan]

I trust Nagy since he knows Hunt better than I ever will. As a coach, I just don't know how you can trust a guy who lied to his team. That's what got him cut, not the actual altercation. I'm sure Nagy will ask Reid how he feels about the situation and come up with the right decision. Hunt is a kid and deserves a second chance, I just don't know if Chicago is the best place for that. I have no doubt he would be welcomed with open arms by the team and the organization. Our culture is exactly what a kid in his situation needs. Solid locker room leaders who can guide him when he needs some direction. My concern is that he hasn't learned his lesson yet and how much impact this could have in the locker room.

[AZ_Bearfan]

He likely will be suspended for 6 games or so

He's already served 5 of those game suspensions, right? So maybe he'd miss a week or two?

[Otis Day]

Ok, from someone who has worked with criminals and peeps who have made bad decisions. Counseling, be it mental health and/or drug and alcohol, rarely works the first time. Many go thru the motions to show others they are "trying" to get better. They jump thru the hoops, say all the right things and attempt to tell themselves they have changed. It doesn't last and those peeps fall back to the dark side, whatever it is.

We can all feel good about Hunt attempting to fix/cure himself, but I for one, due to experience don't put much stock into it. Peeps want to believe because of his talent, what he could do for a team, slow your roll, it is a marathon not a sprint. It takes time to change yourself. He has some problems and it probably didn't help that he became rich over night. I don't worry about the guy. I look for guys in the draft or FA that have no baggage.

[Mikefive]

Only 5 days after the teams Super Bowl dreams were crushed.. Cody Parkey is putting himself out there, trying to create some kind of... personal success/survivor story.
It IS an insult to the Team.

It's NOT about Parkey, its about the team.
Parkeys comments should've been kept similiar than that of his team & teammates.
He was being selfish so soon after the loss to make it all about himself.

How is that different than Akiem Hicks doing the individual outside interview with Peter King the week before?

Hunt... yeah, the 2 questions were asked in the same 45 min presser.

The response differences are different, logically because.. They're Different situations.

The only people looking for a connection are the ones with ulterior motives.

That's one heck of a softball answer. Of course, any two situations are different. Parkey went on an outside interview that he shouldn't have done. Nagy's response... Anger. Hunt assaulted a woman and lied to his team about it. Nagy's response... Caring for the liar/assaulter.

What ulterior motive do I have? Please explain to me the moral consistancy of these two responses.

[G08]

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[AZ_Bearfan]

An interview interviewing and interviewer about another interview. The singularity has been achieved.

[BearsFanInMN]

I think end of the day this is clearly sending the beginning of a we don't think Parkey can help us win moving forward but Kareem Hunt could message. I agree the Today interview probably isn't much different than the Peter King interview. I think it will be played as different by management as Parkey was more about Parkey as the face of the team loss, while Hicks is about his success as part of the team. Not saying I agree or have seen the Hicks interview.

I can see being mad about the interview more based on the history with Marshall and such. That said I also commend how he's handled himself because as one Chicago media member said he didn't win the game, he just didn't lose it. I think it's more correct in that he was not the only one who lost it.

I think it's also easier for people to vilify Parkey due to recency bias and harder to say A-Rob should've got two feet in bounds, the D shouldn't have kept a TD drive alive twice on penalties, etc. It's easier to point to the scrawny dude who doesn't hit or get hit and fault him than the guys that do. Just like I think it's easier for people to blame Bartman because he looked like a nerd, even though others reached for and may have touched the ball, Gonzalez who was there for his D muffed a routine DP ball, Prior lost all mental focus, etc.

[Bears Whiskey Nut]

Regarding Kareem Hunt. That was a weather balloon. I think that they expected the question to be asked. Nagy was honest. Said he talked to him about his life and how he was doing, and nothing about football. Pace backed it up with, we're nowhere near the step of engaging Kareem Hunt yet. I would be really surprised if they went out and got him.

I've done a complete 180* on the kid after dissecting the original video and listening to the girl who said she was assaulted.

Go sign Hunt tomorrow.

[Bearfacts]

Parkey:
Before the weird "me 1st" PR stunt, & that's exactly what it was..
I would've said that the kid has a proven history of being a successful professional kicker, he had a slump year... like MLB pitchers or batters & would do well with an offseason reset with a bit of camp competition.

PR stunt aside I've posted on this already. He's not that successful. He's mostly inconsistent.

As a rookie he made the Pro Bowl then was injured badly and missed most of his second season. If he was all that and a bag of chips why did Philly let him go before his third season when he'd been a top PK?

Cleveland signed him where he was 20/25/80% and three of his five misses also hit an upright. So this accuracy issue of his began then. If Cleveland thought it was only a slump why did they release him?

Miami picks him up and kicking down south again he has a career year yet Miami allows him to leave.....why?

Desperate for some consistency we sign him for $9 mil guaranteed and once again kicking up north he's even worse than he was with Cleveland yet somehow can't seem to grasp that or cure his inaccuracy.

And remember the guy also missed 3 FGs in August so cold weather wasn't his only issue either.

He's like a golfer with a flaw in his swing he can't seem to correct and from what he said during that TV spot it's of far less of a concern to him than it should be now that he's collecting $9 mil and set up for the rest of his life. I'm not at all opposed to his professing his faith but IMHO God and his faith are not gonna cure his inaccuracy.

[southdakbearfan]

I listened to the pace and Nagy interview twice yesterday. Personally I think it’s all a media generated story and got zero inclination that either of them had any serious consideration yet.

[G08]

I listened to the pace and Nagy interview twice yesterday. Personally I think it’s all a media generated story and got zero inclination that either of them had any serious consideration yet.

I agree. David Haugh on the radio, that dipshit, goes "The Bears talked about Hunt without his name even being brought up! I mean sure... they were ASKED about it, but..."

At that point I turned the radio off. Morons, all of them.

I do think Nagy is more open than most coaches so when he was being honest and said he spoke to Hunt a week ago, some people took it as him recruiting. Maybe he was, maybe he wasn't... (I hope he was )

[AZ_Bearfan]

David Haugh on the radio, that dipshit, goes "The Bears talked about Hunt without his name even being brought up! I mean sure... they were ASKED about it, but..."

[Pagan]

A coiple quick things...

Again.. the Parkey & Hunt situations are still different.

The Parkey & Hicks interviews?
Don't know.. never heard Hicks latest interview, so I never voiced an opinion on it.
Though.. I would wager a guess that the latest Hicks interview wasn't all sappy & about himself above his team/teammates.

To Parkeys defense= Being on 4 teams is NOT a good obvious missed sign that he sucked.

Robbie Gould has been on 5 teams, he seems pretty ok...

[BR0D1E86]

Robbie Gould has been on 5 teams, he seems pretty ok...

3. Bears, NYG, SF. Not that it changes your point.

[Otis Day]

Signed as an UDFA by Pats in 2005. So 4.

[wiNDycityfan]

What’s the situation with Parkey? Is he still with the team? If yes, what are the plans for him? If he’ll be cut, any mention of replacements?

[southdakbearfan]

What’s the situation with Parkey? Is he still with the team? If yes, what are the plans for him? If he’ll be cut, any mention of replacements?

I would imagine he will go to camp with competition to see if he can get his head on straight.

[wab]

Best case scenario, Parkey is cut in March and designated a post June 1 cut. Likely scenario, he goes into camp next year trying to fight off two or three guys. Worst case scenario, they keep him as the kicker for 2019.