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PostPosted: Sun Jan 27, 2019 9:24 am 
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Rappaport is reporting it’s worth over 8 million per year. If it’s 8, it’s not terrible. Maybe a hair over what he’s worth these days, but with the cap rising it will be reasonable by year 2 or 3.

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I thought it would be $10M with the rising cap. So I'm fine with $8. That leaves us with I believe $12M left, plus cap inflation.



We’ll have more room once we cut Sims and Acho...another 8 mill I believe.

We only have 4 WRs under contract and 2 TEs...our front line talent is coming back which is great, but I’m curious to see what we do at WR and TE. I’d love to see Brown and a draft pick at TE, and Bellamy and a draft pick at WR.

We’ll see how much Bellamy wants...


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PostPosted: Sun Jan 27, 2019 2:00 pm 
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Pace is doing a fantastic job. If he feels Massie is pivotal to the bears success and paid him as such, I’m down. I’m just hoping there is enough to go around for Smash and Callahan.

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PostPosted: Sun Jan 27, 2019 3:18 pm 
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I think Amos and Callahan are gone with this signing. I just don't see the money being there with everyone else they have to bring back or replace on even small contracts.


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PostPosted: Sun Jan 27, 2019 3:47 pm 
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Agreed on Amos...I think Callahan will be cheaper then most think and could still be back.

That said, we may not need to add many starters, but we have a lot of role player roles to fill.


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I think Amos and Callahan are gone with this signing. I just don't see the money being there with everyone else they have to bring back or replace on even small contracts.



It’s a bit early, they could easily make room for both. Simms will free up some $ and I think they will do something with Kyle Long.

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PostPosted: Sun Jan 27, 2019 4:46 pm 
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Not factoring in Amos and Callahan...

We have to sign a 4th rb, 2 WRs, 2 TEs, and OT and OG, a DT, OLB, and punter.

Most will probably be returning players, but they will still cost money.


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PostPosted: Sun Jan 27, 2019 6:45 pm 
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Factor into cap calculations the high probability that Massie's deal isn't like his last one where his salary was a straight $6 mil per year. This one may include some signing bonus and possibly a future roster bonus so his first year cap hit could be anywhere from say 75% to 85% of his $8 mil average annual cost. Maybe $6-$7 mil.

The same should also be true for Amos and Callahan if they can be resigned. The use of a signing bonus that's amortized against the cap over the life of the deal (25% each year in Massie's case) and a lower first year salary with increases each following year is how teams even with less cap manage to keep their own UFAs.


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I’m fine with it, as long as it’s effectively a 2 year deal.


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PostPosted: Sun Jan 27, 2019 8:10 pm 
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I would assume Pace is setting these contracts up so when trubisky comes due in a few years they don't have to jettison everyone as well.


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I’m fine with it, as long as it’s effectively a 2 year deal.


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Many are these days or at least those we can control. Typically all or the majority of the guaranteed money comes in the first two years leaving only the remainder of the signing bonus still on the books only for cap purposes and that "dead cap" is typically far less than the year 3 salary.

When we have to match another offer as we did in Fuller's case we lose that control so it does make sense to reach out to those UFAs early and try to re-sign them before they hit the open market. Pace should be looking at Amos and Callahan next looking to cut similar cap friendly deals.

For once we may finally have a huge advantage as far as keeping our guys around. Being on the verge of becoming a perennial playoff team helps a whole lot.


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