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The Bears have cut kickers Redford Jones and John Baron. That leaves Chris Blewitt and Elliott Fry under contract.
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The Bears have cut kickers Redford Jones and John Baron. That leaves Chris Blewitt and Elliott Fry under contract.
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Really uninspiring. I hope they're not tinkering with the idea of Matt Bryant.G08 wrote:Dan Wiederer
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The Bears have cut kickers Redford Jones and John Baron. That leaves Chris Blewitt and Elliott Fry under contract.
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Ba dump bump! Note that I didn't say getting Gould back would happen. I said both parties would like to.Funkster wrote:Mikefive wrote:I think it's a great approach. Love that they're bringing in a bunch of guys. Love the 43-yard statement right at the start. My wild guess is that Baron comes out on top of this group. I've thought for some time that both Robbie Gould and the Bears want to reconnect, given any opportunity.
Even though both parties may want to reconnect, it just doesn’t seem feasible at this point. Gould is tagged, the niners said they won’t trade him, I don’t see the bears offering any future draft pick and the biggest kicker of them all, the salary cap. The bears already have a 5.1M dead cap charge, if you add Gould’s possible contract, the bears would be into the kicker position near 9-10M. That’s just not smart football. If you add in Trubisky’s extension and players like Mack, Fuller and Robinson cap hits, the bears will have to pinch some pennies. Finding a solid kicker on the cheap would help this team out a lot. Plus, Gould just put his Chicago home on the market.
I agree that having that kind of cash invested in a PK is bad news. But it's a very temporary problem, since most or all of the Parkey hit goes away after this year. You're not focusing on the bigger picture, which is having a team with SB aspirations and an unreliable kicker is also really bad, as we found out last year. While we'd all agree that finding a solid kicker cheap would be perfect, how does it play to have a crappy kicker again, which is the more likely scenario right now?
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The Bears have cut kickers Redford Jones and John Baron. That leaves Chris Blewitt and Elliott Fry under contract.
Super.
Barron was the only one I had even a tiny degree of faith in.
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I'm putting my money on Fry.
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UOK wrote:Hope it's not a lot of money.wab wrote:I'm putting my money on Fry.
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He's got a nice, clean motion and gets excellent lift on his kicks. Not sure how strong of a leg the young man has, though.wab wrote:I'm putting my money on Fry.
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I much prefer line drive field goals to lofty ones. If your special teams depth and ls/holder are competent, I'd bank more on them rather than take chances with the wind.G08 wrote:He's got a nice, clean motion and gets excellent lift on his kicks. Not sure how strong of a leg the young man has, though.wab wrote:I'm putting my money on Fry.
But Fry's got a clip out there of him hitting a 43 yard FG in a snowstorm so he's got that going for him.
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This is funnier than I originally processedMoriarty wrote:UOK wrote:Hope it's not a lot of money.wab wrote:I'm putting my money on Fry.
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Go check out the highlight film of Pinero, the dude we just traded Oakland for. Kid has a LEG.
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I think the competition is all but over.
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Bears’ hilarious kicking saga takes another turn with Eddy Pineiro
I guess this is progress if the only thing on the Bears being laughed at is their kicking situation
If it seems impossible, believe it. The Bears’ kicking situation has only gotten more hilarious since cutting Cody Parkey.
As soon as this NFL offseason began, Chicago rid itself of the kicker who double-doinked a 43-yard field goal in an NFC wild-card game against the Eagles in the closing seconds, losing the game for the Bears.
That did not solve their troubles, as emphasized by their recent minicamp.
On Friday, coach Matt Nagy brought in the eight wannabe kickers for the same 43-yarder that Parkey could not convert.
They went 2-for-8.
“That’s not good enough,” Nagy told ESPN. “Now I will say this: We always look at the end result of what happens, which is 100% what matters, right? But as we’re learning, two of those eight holds and snaps, it wasn’t 100%. All right. I’ll leave it at that.”
The next possible solution: a kicker with zero field goals to his name.
Chicago traded for Eddy Pineiro on Monday, ESPN first reported, in exchange for what will be a 2021 seventh-round pick if Pineiro plays at least five games this year. Pineiro, a former Florida Gators kicker, went 3-for-3 in field goals in his only preseason game with Oakland last year before going on injured reserve.
He’ll compete for the job with Elliott Fry and Chris Blewitt, and the world is surely rooting for Blewitt.
I guess this is progress if the only thing on the Bears being laughed at is their kicking situation
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More from Matt Nagy on the kicker situation: “That’s about as real as it gets. They were 0-for-3 out there. And for today, that’s not good enough. I mean, we can’t have that. It’s... you just… that’s... we’re going to figure this thing out, but 0-for-3 today, no good.”
Each #Bears kicker missed from the 42 today when they kicked back-to-back. Matt Nagy was unamused. "For us, as evaluators, if they all went 3-for-3 today, we wouldn't be talking about it."
Each #Bears kicker missed from the 42 today when they kicked back-to-back. Matt Nagy was unamused. "For us, as evaluators, if they all went 3-for-3 today, we wouldn't be talking about it."
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Wow I thought he had a shot...
I like Piñeiro for his leg but damnit, we need fucking accuracy.
I forget who it was, maybe Tabor, but he said Fry kicks a really straight ball. I like that in a kicker; I always hated how Parkey's kicks would fade or draw. Even on extra points it made me hold my breath.
Issue with Fry I have read about is overall leg strength. I'll be down at camp sometime this year and I'll keep an eye out.
I like Piñeiro for his leg but damnit, we need fucking accuracy.
I forget who it was, maybe Tabor, but he said Fry kicks a really straight ball. I like that in a kicker; I always hated how Parkey's kicks would fade or draw. Even on extra points it made me hold my breath.
Issue with Fry I have read about is overall leg strength. I'll be down at camp sometime this year and I'll keep an eye out.
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It was just bad optics having a kicker named Blewitt.
Meanwhile the Robbie Gould situation continues to be interesting....
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Meanwhile the Robbie Gould situation continues to be interesting....
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Fry has kind of been my dark horse since the beginning. I think Pineiro has the inside track, but I don't think it'll be an easy decision.G08 wrote:Wow I thought he had a shot...
I like Piñeiro for his leg but damnit, we need fucking accuracy.
I forget who it was, maybe Tabor, but he said Fry kicks a really straight ball. I like that in a kicker; I always hated how Parkey's kicks would fade or draw. Even on extra points it made me hold my breath.
Issue with Fry I have read about is overall leg strength. I'll be down at camp sometime this year and I'll keep an eye out.
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If you were betting, would you take Piniero, Fry or somebody else? Pretty even odds each way it seems.
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So tough to say at this point... I love a strong leg, especially in our stadium, but there is something to be said about a kicker whose kicking mechanics lend to a straight kick.Mikefive wrote:If you were betting, would you take Piniero, Fry or somebody else? Pretty even odds each way it seems.
Gun to my head... I think Piniero wins it but that's just me being enamored with his upside.
That being said, wouldn't surprise me if it's Fry or someone who isn't even on our roster yet.
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The more I think about it, I'm now leaning toward Fry. Piniero has a strong leg, but that happens because of torque. And torque on that plant foot on grass instead of artificial turf (in college) can be problematic. If Fry is more accurate, but not as long, I think Nagy would take that. But Fry had his most recent success all indoors, so grass is a change for him.
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Bears' minicamp kicking competition off to a bad start
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don't love the position he is in with the kickers
The minicamp phase of the Chicago Bears' kicking competition got off to a poor start, and one of the contestants is already out.
The team announced Wednesday that they waived Chris Blewitt, one of the three kickers in minicamp competing for the job.
During Tuesday's session all three kickers -- Blewitt, Eddy Pineiro, Elliott Fry -- missed kicks from 40-plus yards, back-to-back-to-back.
"Whatever went through your mind went through my mind," Nagy said after practice, via the Chicago Tribune.
The most common thought going through Bears fans minds was likely a picture of Robbie Gould and daydreams about what it was like before the team foolishly parted ways with the kicker three years ago.
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Agreed. What Pineiro needs to master is how to still kick with power but not rely on such a heavy plant foot to generate torque. I'm clearly a psychopath so I went and found his pre-season kicks with the Raiders last season, and I was -- I guess relieved? -- to see that he wasn't kicking with 100% power for all his kicks.Mikefive wrote:The more I think about it, I'm now leaning toward Fry. Piniero has a strong leg, but that happens because of torque. And torque on that plant foot on grass instead of artificial turf (in college) can be problematic. If Fry is more accurate, but not as long, I think Nagy would take that. But Fry had his most recent success all indoors, so grass is a change for him.
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Somebody else. Pace goes all in when there’s a weakness. Traded up for Biscuit. Traded for Mack. Redid almost the entire WR group in one offseason. This will be no different. If he has to trade for Robbie Gould and pay him record money, he will. I don’t doubt Pace’s desire or ability to fix problems on this team anymore. Just in terms of how visible the kicker situation is, Pace has to fix it.Mikefive wrote:If you were betting, would you take Piniero, Fry or somebody else? Pretty even odds each way it seems.