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Re: Kicking Kompetition

Sun May 05, 2019 6:44 pm

Nobody getting signed thus far. Bears locking up a UNC nose tackle and an OL guy instead.
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The Bears have cut kickers Redford Jones and John Baron. That leaves Chris Blewitt and Elliott Fry under contract.
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The Bears have cut kickers Redford Jones and John Baron. That leaves Chris Blewitt and Elliott Fry under contract.
Really uninspiring. I hope they're not tinkering with the idea of Matt Bryant.
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Re: Kicking Kompetition

Mon May 06, 2019 8:04 am

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Mikefive wrote:I think it's a great approach. Love that they're bringing in a bunch of guys. Love the 43-yard statement right at the start. My wild guess is that Baron comes out on top of this group. I've thought for some time that both Robbie Gould and the Bears want to reconnect, given any opportunity.

Even though both parties may want to reconnect, it just doesn’t seem feasible at this point. Gould is tagged, the niners said they won’t trade him, I don’t see the bears offering any future draft pick and the biggest kicker of them all, the salary cap. The bears already have a 5.1M dead cap charge, if you add Gould’s possible contract, the bears would be into the kicker position near 9-10M. That’s just not smart football. If you add in Trubisky’s extension and players like Mack, Fuller and Robinson cap hits, the bears will have to pinch some pennies. Finding a solid kicker on the cheap would help this team out a lot. Plus, Gould just put his Chicago home on the market.
Ba dump bump! :-) Note that I didn't say getting Gould back would happen. I said both parties would like to.

I agree that having that kind of cash invested in a PK is bad news. But it's a very temporary problem, since most or all of the Parkey hit goes away after this year. You're not focusing on the bigger picture, which is having a team with SB aspirations and an unreliable kicker is also really bad, as we found out last year. While we'd all agree that finding a solid kicker cheap would be perfect, how does it play to have a crappy kicker again, which is the more likely scenario right now?
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The Bears have cut kickers Redford Jones and John Baron. That leaves Chris Blewitt and Elliott Fry under contract.

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Barron was the only one I had even a tiny degree of faith in.
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Re: Kicking Kompetition

Mon May 06, 2019 9:14 am

I'm putting my money on Fry.
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wab wrote:I'm putting my money on Fry.
Hope it's not a lot of money.
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wab wrote:I'm putting my money on Fry.
Hope it's not a lot of money.

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Re: Kicking Kompetition

Mon May 06, 2019 11:33 am

wab wrote:I'm putting my money on Fry.
He's got a nice, clean motion and gets excellent lift on his kicks. Not sure how strong of a leg the young man has, though.
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wab wrote:I'm putting my money on Fry.
He's got a nice, clean motion and gets excellent lift on his kicks. Not sure how strong of a leg the young man has, though.
I much prefer line drive field goals to lofty ones. If your special teams depth and ls/holder are competent, I'd bank more on them rather than take chances with the wind.

But Fry's got a clip out there of him hitting a 43 yard FG in a snowstorm so he's got that going for him.

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wab wrote:I'm putting my money on Fry.
Hope it's not a lot of money.

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Re: Kicking Kompetition

Mon May 06, 2019 3:51 pm

Go check out the highlight film of Pinero, the dude we just traded Oakland for. Kid has a LEG.
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Mon May 06, 2019 10:07 pm

I think the competition is all but over.
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Tue May 07, 2019 8:19 am

Bears’ hilarious kicking saga takes another turn with Eddy Pineiro
If it seems impossible, believe it. The Bears’ kicking situation has only gotten more hilarious since cutting Cody Parkey.

As soon as this NFL offseason began, Chicago rid itself of the kicker who double-doinked a 43-yard field goal in an NFC wild-card game against the Eagles in the closing seconds, losing the game for the Bears.

That did not solve their troubles, as emphasized by their recent minicamp.

On Friday, coach Matt Nagy brought in the eight wannabe kickers for the same 43-yarder that Parkey could not convert.

They went 2-for-8.

“That’s not good enough,” Nagy told ESPN. “Now I will say this: We always look at the end result of what happens, which is 100% what matters, right? But as we’re learning, two of those eight holds and snaps, it wasn’t 100%. All right. I’ll leave it at that.”

The next possible solution: a kicker with zero field goals to his name.

Chicago traded for Eddy Pineiro on Monday, ESPN first reported, in exchange for what will be a 2021 seventh-round pick if Pineiro plays at least five games this year. Pineiro, a former Florida Gators kicker, went 3-for-3 in field goals in his only preseason game with Oakland last year before going on injured reserve.

He’ll compete for the job with Elliott Fry and Chris Blewitt, and the world is surely rooting for Blewitt.

I guess this is progress if the only thing on the Bears being laughed at is their kicking situation
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Sat May 11, 2019 9:53 pm

Mikefive's theory: The only time you KNOW that a sports team player, coach or management member is being 100% honest is when they're NOT reciting "the company line".

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Wed Jun 12, 2019 8:39 am

K Chris Blewitt was waived today.
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Wed Jun 12, 2019 8:42 am

More from Matt Nagy on the kicker situation: “That’s about as real as it gets. They were 0-for-3 out there. And for today, that’s not good enough. I mean, we can’t have that. It’s... you just… that’s... we’re going to figure this thing out, but 0-for-3 today, no good.”

Each #Bears kicker missed from the 42 today when they kicked back-to-back. Matt Nagy was unamused. "For us, as evaluators, if they all went 3-for-3 today, we wouldn't be talking about it."
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BR0D1E86 wrote:Bears waived Blewitt...

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And all the continual bad name jokes go riding off into the sunset.
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Wed Jun 12, 2019 11:39 am

Wow I thought he had a shot...

I like Piñeiro for his leg but damnit, we need fucking accuracy.

I forget who it was, maybe Tabor, but he said Fry kicks a really straight ball. I like that in a kicker; I always hated how Parkey's kicks would fade or draw. Even on extra points it made me hold my breath.

Issue with Fry I have read about is overall leg strength. I'll be down at camp sometime this year and I'll keep an eye out.
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Re: Kicking Kompetition

Wed Jun 12, 2019 12:09 pm

It was just bad optics having a kicker named Blewitt.

Meanwhile the Robbie Gould situation continues to be interesting....

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G08 wrote:Wow I thought he had a shot...

I like Piñeiro for his leg but damnit, we need fucking accuracy.

I forget who it was, maybe Tabor, but he said Fry kicks a really straight ball. I like that in a kicker; I always hated how Parkey's kicks would fade or draw. Even on extra points it made me hold my breath.

Issue with Fry I have read about is overall leg strength. I'll be down at camp sometime this year and I'll keep an eye out.
Fry has kind of been my dark horse since the beginning. I think Pineiro has the inside track, but I don't think it'll be an easy decision.
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Wed Jun 12, 2019 9:07 pm

If you were betting, would you take Piniero, Fry or somebody else? Pretty even odds each way it seems.
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Wed Jun 12, 2019 9:21 pm

Mikefive wrote:If you were betting, would you take Piniero, Fry or somebody else? Pretty even odds each way it seems.
So tough to say at this point... I love a strong leg, especially in our stadium, but there is something to be said about a kicker whose kicking mechanics lend to a straight kick.

Gun to my head... I think Piniero wins it but that's just me being enamored with his upside.

That being said, wouldn't surprise me if it's Fry or someone who isn't even on our roster yet.
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Thu Jun 13, 2019 8:03 am

The more I think about it, I'm now leaning toward Fry. Piniero has a strong leg, but that happens because of torque. And torque on that plant foot on grass instead of artificial turf (in college) can be problematic. If Fry is more accurate, but not as long, I think Nagy would take that. But Fry had his most recent success all indoors, so grass is a change for him.

Who the he!! knows?
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Thu Jun 13, 2019 10:29 am

Bears' minicamp kicking competition off to a bad start
The minicamp phase of the Chicago Bears' kicking competition got off to a poor start, and one of the contestants is already out.

The team announced Wednesday that they waived Chris Blewitt, one of the three kickers in minicamp competing for the job.

During Tuesday's session all three kickers -- Blewitt, Eddy Pineiro, Elliott Fry -- missed kicks from 40-plus yards, back-to-back-to-back.

"Whatever went through your mind went through my mind," Nagy said after practice, via the Chicago Tribune.

The most common thought going through Bears fans minds was likely a picture of Robbie Gould and daydreams about what it was like before the team foolishly parted ways with the kicker three years ago.

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don't love the position he is in with the kickers
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Re: Kicking Kompetition

Thu Jun 13, 2019 11:20 am

Mikefive wrote:The more I think about it, I'm now leaning toward Fry. Piniero has a strong leg, but that happens because of torque. And torque on that plant foot on grass instead of artificial turf (in college) can be problematic. If Fry is more accurate, but not as long, I think Nagy would take that. But Fry had his most recent success all indoors, so grass is a change for him.

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Agreed. What Pineiro needs to master is how to still kick with power but not rely on such a heavy plant foot to generate torque. I'm clearly a psychopath so I went and found his pre-season kicks with the Raiders last season, and I was -- I guess relieved? -- to see that he wasn't kicking with 100% power for all his kicks.

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Re: Kicking Kompetition

Thu Jun 13, 2019 3:15 pm

Mikefive wrote:If you were betting, would you take Piniero, Fry or somebody else? Pretty even odds each way it seems.
Somebody else. Pace goes all in when there’s a weakness. Traded up for Biscuit. Traded for Mack. Redid almost the entire WR group in one offseason. This will be no different. If he has to trade for Robbie Gould and pay him record money, he will. I don’t doubt Pace’s desire or ability to fix problems on this team anymore. Just in terms of how visible the kicker situation is, Pace has to fix it.
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