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Re: Trey Burton and TEs discussion

Mon Jun 03, 2019 10:44 am

Richie wrote:
Umbali wrote:So my thoughts with Burton and Shaheen.

Burton backed out of throwing on one of our trick plays cus of the stress of the Philly Special in the Super Bowl. That tells me a bit of his make up. He backed away from a trick play out of stress.
A trick play? He bailed out of A LOT more than that. You are aware that he skipped out on playing in the wild card playoff game vs Philly because of an anxiety attack... right?

I am aware that he didn't want to throw on a trick play as well. However, that's nothing compared to what he really bailed out on.
That's not why he didn't play in the Wild Card game. Does he have issues with anxiety, yes. Has he been open about that for a while, yes.

He hurt his groin. Now he's having surgery to repair it because it didn't heal properly. Unless that's just a cover up so he can miss OTA's due to anxiety.
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Re: Trey Burton and TEs discussion

Tue Jun 04, 2019 6:57 am

Mikefive wrote:OK. But if you had Travis Kelce, I think you'd want to get a lot more out of him than Trey Burton numbers.
And if we had Ezekiel Elliott we wouldn't have had to trade up in the 3rd round to grab a RB, but we have who we have and incorporate them accordingly.
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Re: Trey Burton and TEs discussion

Tue Jun 04, 2019 8:26 am

wab wrote:
Richie wrote:
Umbali wrote:So my thoughts with Burton and Shaheen.

Burton backed out of throwing on one of our trick plays cus of the stress of the Philly Special in the Super Bowl. That tells me a bit of his make up. He backed away from a trick play out of stress.
A trick play? He bailed out of A LOT more than that. You are aware that he skipped out on playing in the wild card playoff game vs Philly because of an anxiety attack... right?

I am aware that he didn't want to throw on a trick play as well. However, that's nothing compared to what he really bailed out on.
That's not why he didn't play in the Wild Card game. Does he have issues with anxiety, yes. Has he been open about that for a while, yes.

He hurt his groin. Now he's having surgery to repair it because it didn't heal properly. Unless that's just a cover up so he can miss OTA's due to anxiety.
The timing of it suddenly being too much to bear - 48 hours before the game was odd. I'm far from the only one who has speculated that it was his anxiety which kept him out of that game. He had been playing with the groin issue. There were a lot of talks about his anxiety over that month period or so. I think it was certainly a factor.
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Re: Trey Burton and TEs discussion

Tue Jun 04, 2019 8:30 am

Mikefive wrote:OK. But if you had Travis Kelce, I think you'd want to get a lot more out of him than Trey Burton numbers.
Sure. He's probably a hall of fame TE. Trey Burton isn't.

The point is that we don't necessarily need all-pro production at TE to win a Super Bowl with the way this offense is designed. Would it help? Sure. It would also help to have all-pro production at every position, but that's a pipe dream. Burton fills the TE role quite well.
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Re: Trey Burton and TEs discussion

Sun Jun 23, 2019 11:10 am

I would like to know where I can get a Travis Kelce, are they available in 6-packs? I was unaware they were so plentiful in the NFL.
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Re: Trey Burton and TEs discussion

Sun Jun 23, 2019 12:29 pm

I'm relentlessly positive about most things bears but i've got pretty low hopes for adam shaheen. to me he's just kellen davis with better hands. he's got size and decent speed, but just doesnt have the body control needed at this level to put the whole package together and that's just going to lead to fluke injuries.

i hope i'm wrong! and i dont really begrudge the pick, but i think ultimately he's going to be a swing and a miss.
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Re: Trey Burton and TEs discussion

Sun Jun 23, 2019 4:04 pm

Everything pretty well covered in this thread. But I always wondered, even before the surgery, why all the doubting of Burton. Was there anything in his history as a player, either with Philly or the Bears to suggest that he would intentionally miss a key game? If so, I'm not aware of it. Let's hope he makes a full recovery and see how he performs in his second year as a starter and in Nagy's system.

As for Shaheen, he was looking good last year in pre season. Can he stay healthy? In any case, he was a reach in the second round of the draft.

If Raymond, or someone else can flash, it would be nice.
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Re: Trey Burton and TEs discussion

Thu Jun 27, 2019 7:52 pm

Mikefive wrote:OK. But if you had Travis Kelce, I think you'd want to get a lot more out of him than Trey Burton numbers.
I'm looking to see progression in year 2 for everyone

I think this piece is on point
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Re: Trey Burton and TEs discussion

Mon Jul 01, 2019 9:47 am

shame we can't give Trey Burton's healthy legs to Zach Miller ... then we'd have our productive TE on the field while Burton could limp off into the rubber room he seems to need
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Re: Trey Burton and TEs discussion

Mon Jul 01, 2019 12:51 pm

Pro Football Focus graded Burton the best overall run-blocking among tight ends in 2018.

1. Trey Burton, Chicago Bears

Burton caught 54-of-73 targets for 569 yards and six touchdowns in his first year with the Bears, but his best efforts were in the run game. He earned three single-game run-blocking grades above 85.0 and finished the year with the highest overall run-blocking grade (79.5) among qualifying tight ends.

https://www.profootballfocus.com/news/p ... ds-in-2018" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

In another piece

TREY BURTON, CHICAGO BEARS – 72.7 RED-ZONE GRADE

In his first season with the Bears, Trey Burton generated a quiet 69.4 overall grade that ranked 17th at the tight end position. However, inside the red zone, he proved his worth, ranking as the fourth-best tight end with a 72.7 grade. Burton recorded 11 receptions on 12 targets for five touchdowns, while his 131.3 passer rating when targeted inside the 20 paced the league’s players at the position.

https://www.profootballfocus.com/news/p ... ds-in-2018" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Thus far, those are promising results. Let's see how he develops.

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