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PostPosted: Tue Jun 18, 2019 7:20 pm 
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My personal thoughts are a load of sour grapes.

We didn't do a lot...but we didn't need to do a lot.

Yeah the kicking thing sucks...all honesty I would have preferred to grab a bunch of undrafted college guys and give them tryouts. Any "pro" we get will be a FA for a reason.

Hopefully Piniero is worth it.


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PostPosted: Tue Jun 18, 2019 9:36 pm 
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I don't see anyone mentioning our WR's being healthy in this analysis. Robinson alone being healthy is a huge upgrade. He started to show some more at the end of the season, but you know he's chomping at the bit. Miller with "2 arms now" has to be better right?
just the total number of things the Bears can do with different personnel makes us a better as defenses can't key on any one player to take away. Nagy will just use someone else who's got a mismatch.

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PostPosted: Tue Jun 18, 2019 10:59 pm 
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He isn't really wrong, but not right either. We can fan boy lots of things. However on paper they are on a net negative. I personally dont agree, and think some of those unknowns/different personel will work out.

Big loss Fangio. Pagano though a good replacement on paper is a loss. Pagano has 1 year as DC, in 2011, with a great team. He is essentially an unknown compared to Fangio.

On paper losses. Howard, Callahan on paper are losses. Though I dont agree. I think Callahan is better but Skrine is good. Callahan misses games and if skrine remains healthy it's a push. Howard on paper is better but I think Montgomery will be better in this scheme.

Uncertainty at kicker. It's not a great thing guys. I think the Radiers guy will be good though.


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PostPosted: Wed Jun 19, 2019 8:09 am 
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He isn't really wrong, but not right either.



John Fox's Bears coaching tenure in a nutshell.

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PostPosted: Wed Jun 19, 2019 8:42 am 
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Meh. I think his biggest gripe is that the Bears let his buddy Vic go. I mean... what was the alternative? It's not like they parted badly.

The kicker thing is laughable, if the Bears had gone out and resigned Connor Barth, Fox would've said they did the right thing...

And as far as DC goes, it's not like Pagano is the next Mel Tucker. The guy has a history of winning. The guy's biggest issue in Indy would seem to be that the talent coming in was getting worse and worse the longer he was there. Was that his fault? Maybe some but obviously you can't put that all on a coach. At any rate, it won't be the issue here in his position as DC. And his history has very much proven that when given talent, he CAN and DOES coach well and effectively.

Will the defense be the same? No. Will it be as good? Hopefully. Does it NEED to be as good? I think we all doubt that.

Would John Fox be the kind of guy who 'poo-poos' an effective style just because it doesn't match his? Sounds like YEP.


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PostPosted: Wed Jun 19, 2019 10:19 am 
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One of the worse Bears coaches in my lifetime and Fox criticizes the Bears offseason? He has no leg to stand on... Why would he even be on TV he has the worse personality and has proven himself to be the type of person that thinks he's above the fans of the NFL. He treated fans in Chicago like they were infants. Out of all the coaches the Bears had since 1970 he's the only one that I never listened to after the game. He always came across as an asshole.

Worse offseason lol... Guess he forgot we got Mack and Miller with picks from this year. It doesn't surprise me because the guy couldn't even get a challenge flag right once as a Bears HC.

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PostPosted: Wed Jun 19, 2019 12:10 pm 
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I wasn’t a fan of the Fox hire but understood why they did it. It made sense at the time and honestly Fox did what we needed him to do and that was correct the culture, cut the bad apples out and eventually be the fall guy to buy Pace more time. Fox’s time here went about as well as I personally expected/hoped it would and I definitely didn’t want Pace taking the bullet as i’ve been a Pace fan since day one. I always saw Fox as an average coach who kinda got lucky in Carolina and then got way too much credit in Denver when all he really did was have one of the luckiest few months in football with Tebow and then ride Peyton Manning.

With that said, at this point Fox really should have known better than saying anything. Right or not it’s a bad look based on how badly he did in Chicago and then how well the team did after he was fired. Even if he objectively truly believes Chicago had the worst offseason he should have picked a different team. It just makes him look like a bitter old man. And since I never liked the guy ill finish this post with a ‘screw you john fox’


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