Let’s not get it twisted though. The Packers equally looked like shit on offense.
No rhythm. None. The 2019 Bears offense has a long way to go.
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Going to Denver is a tough deal. Particularly when it's warmer out. Thin air is a significant advantage for Denver.
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what the fuck was that?
doesn't matter the year ...doesn't matter the players ... at some point in a Bears / Packers game, a Packer receiver will run free deep in the Bears secondary to help greatly in putting the nail in the Bears coffin ... and once was all they needed tonight since the Bears offense chose to be nonexistent
terrible play calling ... inept execution ... and a major choke job on a pass that never should have been thrown
doesn't matter the year ...doesn't matter the players ... at some point in a Bears / Packers game, a Packer receiver will run free deep in the Bears secondary to help greatly in putting the nail in the Bears coffin ... and once was all they needed tonight since the Bears offense chose to be nonexistent
terrible play calling ... inept execution ... and a major choke job on a pass that never should have been thrown
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It's one game, but this was a statement game. At home against the hated rival and the O and the "franchise" QB looked weak, very weak. Get used to Trubs being bashed for most if not all the year.
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And before they were Rodger's bitch they were Favre's bitch. They are 15-41 against those two now. It's really hard to watch because you just know whats going to happen.Otis Day wrote: ↑Thu Sep 05, 2019 10:40 pm This is why Trubisky doesn't get the respect Bears fans want him to, perfect example. That was a terrible throw into Amos' hands. Double coverage, stared him down the entire time. He made no big plays and until he consistently wins close games, he will not get respect.
Hated the O play calling tonight. Nagy is new age, likes the shotgun. likes cute. 3rd and inches and Trubs is in shotgun and they run a cute TE screen that failed! Really?
This is exactly why a lot of Bears fans (me included) have trepidation whenever we play GB. The BEARS ARE RODGERS' BITCH. It is true.
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Nagy's game plan was terrible. It looked like a preseason plan of "test out this guy, then that guy". Monty was open on SOOO many routes, and wasn't thrown to. Monty was much better looking running, and yet had less than a third of carries. We didn't even try to get a running game going while Bisky was sucking all night. Absurd overuse of both Patterson and Davis. Too many cute plays and nothing that resembled getting foundation going. On the pick Robinson slipped, so....other wise I think he out-jumps Amos. The Oline blocking was plain bad all night too. What shit show. Nagy better clean his act up big, and get something where he can get Bisky and a run game into a rhythm instead of trying to surprise the opponent.
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He was never going to be his best in NFL year 3.
I really want to see GB's defense in other games. They played pretty well.
I really want to see GB's defense in other games. They played pretty well.
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Biscuit just looked like a deer in headlights out there. Stared down his receivers, rarely stepped into his throws, and just was apathetic overall. Nagy didn't help at all. The defense set the tone set the beginning and we should have stepped on their throat and ended it. Instead we gave Rodgers all the time he wanted and he realized with the way our offense was playing, he could take things easy. Just a pitiful game to watch. Biscuit looks like he regressed rather than made all the progress peoplease were expecting. This is going to be one long season.
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All of the talk in the offseason about, "has Trubisky made the leap, has Trubisky taken the next step...?" I will put it to you right now. Nagy better start looking in the mirror, and examining his playbook. Because one thing was blatantly obvious to me tonight. Nagy had no feel for the play calling or no feel for the game, and he was unable to scheme guys open. Is it possible that Trubisky missed all of the reads tonight? Maybe. I think that bigger likelihood is that Pettine knew exactly what Nagy was going to run, and shut the offense down. Where was Cohen? Where was Miller? Do we really think that Coradelle Patterson is a better receiver than Javon Wims? I don't think he is. We started moving the ball with Montgomery. Where was the RPO off of that? Why didn't he stick with it?
Throwing the ball on 3rd and inches told me all I needed to know about where Nagy's head was at tonight. He was going to out-cute the Packers defense, and it didn't happen. He was going to be clever and tricky in the first game of the season, and it didn't work. Really it started with the first play of the fucking game. Then the short pitch to Cohen. Nagy thought he was the mad professor, and he was completely unprepared for it blowing up in his face.
For all the talk about Trubisky taking the next step in Nagy's offense. Nagy better make sure it's a step worth taking.
Throwing the ball on 3rd and inches told me all I needed to know about where Nagy's head was at tonight. He was going to out-cute the Packers defense, and it didn't happen. He was going to be clever and tricky in the first game of the season, and it didn't work. Really it started with the first play of the fucking game. Then the short pitch to Cohen. Nagy thought he was the mad professor, and he was completely unprepared for it blowing up in his face.
For all the talk about Trubisky taking the next step in Nagy's offense. Nagy better make sure it's a step worth taking.
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Need to say... Our defense was terrific. No turnovers is unfortunate. But they were very strong.
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This fucking team sometimes.
Defense looked great. Offense was like watching an invalid get smothered with a pillow.
Defense looked great. Offense was like watching an invalid get smothered with a pillow.
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I forgot how much I admire your realism, UOK. Of COURSE we should have known what was going to happen here. We should have predicted Amos makes a tying-drive-defeating INT. That is SO Bears. I mean, Cedric Benson (RIP) ran for almost 300 yards against the Bears on some of his last fumes as an NFL player. It should have been a story that wrote itself.
I don't think Nagy is dumb. I don't think Trubisky is bad. But if they don't figure out how to use 32 and 17 more than 25 and 84 then we're in a world of hurt, folks. And screw Shaheen and the entire clown car of TEs. Let's get that PS TE from Princeton out there STAT. For real no joke.
I don't think Nagy is dumb. I don't think Trubisky is bad. But if they don't figure out how to use 32 and 17 more than 25 and 84 then we're in a world of hurt, folks. And screw Shaheen and the entire clown car of TEs. Let's get that PS TE from Princeton out there STAT. For real no joke.
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Requoted for emphasis, because this post is perfect.Bears Whiskey Nut wrote: ↑Thu Sep 05, 2019 10:57 pm All of the talk in the offseason about, "has Trubisky made the leap, has Trubisky taken the next step...?" I will put it to you right now. Nagy better start looking in the mirror, and examining his playbook. Because one thing was blatantly obvious to me tonight. Nagy had no feel for the play calling or no feel for the game, and he was unable to scheme guys open. Is it possible that Trubisky missed all of the reads tonight? Maybe. I think that bigger likelihood is that Pettine knew exactly what Nagy was going to run, and shut the offense down. Where was Cohen? Where was Miller? Do we really think that Coradelle Patterson is a better receiver than Javon Wims? I don't think he is. We started moving the ball with Montgomery. Where was the RPO off of that? Why didn't he stick with it?
Throwing the ball on 3rd and inches told me all I needed to know about where Nagy's head was at tonight. He was going to out-cute the Packers defense, and it didn't happen. He was going to be clever and tricky in the first game of the season, and it didn't work. Really it started with the first play of the fucking game. Then the short pitch to Cohen. Nagy thought he was the mad professor, and he was completely unprepared for it blowing up in his face.
For all the talk about Trubisky taking the next step in Nagy's offense. Nagy better make sure it's a step worth taking.
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Kind of sounds like the Pack respects Trubs as much as they did Cutler. Nagy has to see that the Bears do not need Trubs to be A A Ron, he can be Andy Dalton with a good running game, that will work with this D.
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Here's another FYI. The Bears better figure out a way to go into the BYE at 4-1 or 3-2, because the hardest stretch is games 7-11, where we could easily go 2-3 or 1-4. If we hit the BYE at 2-3 and then go 1-4 out of the BYE. This season is over.
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Both teams were bad. I’m one of the most pessimistic fans out there and I’m not going to shit all over everything.
The Bears aren’t a bad football team. But this was a bad game.
The Bears aren’t a bad football team. But this was a bad game.
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I'm not throwing in the towel either. But Nagy better figure this out, because I am putting 85% of this failure on his shoulders. Yes Mitch made some bad reads and some bad throws, but that is expected. However if you are throwing the ball on 3rd & inches, with David Montgomery as an option. There is a larger problem that needs to be solved. Nagy needed to realize that the game was descending into a heavyweight punching match, and he was going to have to slug it out with Green Bay. But I don't think that he ever got there. He kept trying to run his gameplan. Which was flawed from the start. With the Bears defense destroying Rogers in the first quarter, LaFluer adjusted. Nagy never did.
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Reality is that Aaron Rodgers facefucks this Bears franchise without a lot of effort, and when he does struggle, the Bears rarely capitalize on the opportunity.IE wrote: ↑Thu Sep 05, 2019 11:02 pm I forgot how much I admire your realism, UOK. Of COURSE we should have known what was going to happen here. We should have predicted Amos makes a tying-drive-defeating INT. That is SO Bears. I mean, Cedric Benson (RIP) ran for almost 300 yards against the Bears on some of his last fumes as an NFL player. It should have been a story that wrote itself.
If anything, Jay and Mitch are very similar in terms of how Denny Green would look at it: They are who we think they are. Cutler was never going to be better than a strongarm and 50/50 stats, but by god the Bears tried to fit him into every slot, give him every chance, year after year, to get the recipe right.
Trubisky appears to be plateauing in a different way, where his heart is in the right place, and the highlights are very impressive, but you could look at tape from his rookie year and tonight and you'd notice few improvements. He's the same, basically. Hates not throwing to his first option, rarely works defenses with his eyes, and still makes rookie throws a couple times a game.
I'm guessing that Nagy and this defense aren't going to wait around for Mitch to untap the talent that simply isn't there. Ryan Pace, on the other hand...
But we're a long way from facing those questions. A win next week heals things. And thankfully, like all people, one day Aaron Rodgers will die, and we can look forward to playing whatever Hall of Fame QB the Packers replace him with.
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He’s dangerously close to Blake Bortlesing this team. Literally every part of this team but him is ready to win a super bowl.
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National reporters are all so smug right now because their Trubisky takes look good, but they’ve all conventionally forgotten praising Nagy and downplaying the defense
Btw the play that pisses me off most tonight is the 3rd and short where the play was designed to go to our TE bust who is covered, and rather than throw it low and away from the defender, Mitch just eats its it.
Btw the play that pisses me off most tonight is the 3rd and short where the play was designed to go to our TE bust who is covered, and rather than throw it low and away from the defender, Mitch just eats its it.
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I blame Nagy 100 percent. Offense was out of sorts, had no rhythm and it wasn't even 50 percent Mitch. Playcalling and subbing were poor, blocking was bad. They needed preseason time especially playing a first place schedule.
Defense looked awesome, rogers throws two half assed jump balls that turn into points.
Also I am 100 percent done with Shaheen, he just isn't very good.
Defense looked awesome, rogers throws two half assed jump balls that turn into points.
Also I am 100 percent done with Shaheen, he just isn't very good.
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I'm really at a loss of words. We waited 8 months, a bunch of optimism for the offense - and to come out with this game plan and lack of execution, particularly by Trubisky - was extremely disappointing and frustrating. I don't think we're as bad on offense as what we showed tonight but good lord, they need to figure this out fast because the season could spiral out of control quick.
The national media's narrative on Trubisky isn't going to change with this performance and hearing Tramon Williams' comments about Trubisky afterwards doesn't leave a good impression of what the league thinks of Biscuit. Making passing on Watson and Mahomes look even dumber right now but we'll see what happens.
The national media's narrative on Trubisky isn't going to change with this performance and hearing Tramon Williams' comments about Trubisky afterwards doesn't leave a good impression of what the league thinks of Biscuit. Making passing on Watson and Mahomes look even dumber right now but we'll see what happens.
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