Mitch Trubisky & General Quarterback Banter

[Ormazd]

I cosign this opinion. Always hated the nickname.

I just can't take anything seriously when someone calls their own starting QB "Biscuit". I don't care if he becomes a top 10 QB. Calling him Biscuit sounds like someone referring to Timmay! from South Park. Please please please... anything else. I'll never get used to it. Calling him Shithead would be better.

I personally believe that alone is what is holding him back - nobody has accountability when their nickname is Biscuit. It's like "here - here's a treat... now go ahead and suck because you only need to live up to the expectations your nickname sets".

Edit: One thing worse than wanting to see your QB use one of their better talents (their legs) is to see him out there as a destination QB for any defense who knows a) where he is going to be, and b) that he has questionable protection. Don't like my Tark reference? Pick another. But not at least partially exploiting 10's skills and nature to keep the defenses more honest...is a mistake.

[AZ_Bearfan]

Mariotta was a classic system QB in college. I watched alot of him back in the day and the thing that really stood out about his game was his utter lack of pocket awareness. They schemed around it in college, but the NFL is a different beast and has no place for QB's who can't feel pressure coming. He ends up rushing his reads because he has zero clue how much time he has before he gets sacked, or he takes off and runs when his pocket is still clean.

No thank you to signing him.

[VA_Mountain_Bear]

Guys, I keep seeing people forget how much further behind in development reps Bisky is compared to Mahomes or Watson (to whom he willbe endlessly compared). the kid had 13 games under his belt post-high school when we drafted him, and you can basically discard all of the games played under Fox-they were as valuable to being a QB in this system as trying to get better at your golf swing by moving the greens.

Bisky has a lot of upside, and he has some area of weakness. He has done well for us overall, and the struggles this year I think can be mostly attributed to the horrendous Oline play he has gotten. I don't think Brady, Rodgers, or Mahomes would have looked very good behind that line weeks 1-4. No I am not overlooking his areas where he needs to grow still, but credit some areas of growth so far. Last year he rarely rotated his hip into the throws but is improving on this, it was following his arm, his foot work was jumpier and it has settled more. Give him some real blocking in passes, and for the run to set up passing, and lets see what transpires. But seriously ya'll, aren't you at least happy to see a guy who can develop after nearly a lifetime of watching a QB carousel of bums?

[The Marshall Plan]

How about we give Truth the running game and o-line from last year? A serviceable TE would be nice too.

This is the same guy we had last year. The speed got turned up on him at the same time his support system massively degraded. That's a recipe for disaster.

I won't blame him for that. I believe Truth can be a really good QB in this league, but he's gotta have at least an average support system no different than any other QB.

[Mikefive]

Ok so that’s a pretty strong level of dislike. To me, Floyd is like a SBD fart where everybody smells it and at first they blame the dog until Dad starts laughing, but the smell just won’t leave the room.

What about The Truth? As in Trubisky?

I like The Truth - it has all kinds of meaning, from meaning really great to meaning the unfortunate reality that slaps us all in the face.

I just feel the Biscuit name is clownish, and hope it doesn't stick and become widespread. In the early 80's I was in a frat at U of I and as a pledge we had this lineup where we were forced to do all kinds of silly stuff. Most of it was fun/funny. Everyone was far less than sober. With the actives smoking cigars and sipping Jack and yelling. lol. One thing they had us do one time was go through the line of maybe 20 of us and every guy had to come up with an euphemism for a stiff dick. Under pressure, a few guys came up with things silly and embarrassing. And so naturally, everyone started calling them that as a nickname. That's how things happen. To this day 35+ years later people still refer to John as "Bone Wad" and Mark as "Stiffy". These guys are in their mid-50s. ROFL

So that's my deep dark fear, that "Biscuit" will stick to Mitch, with announcers and writers poking fun of him about it (like I would if I wasn't a Bear fan). I'm hoping something kind of cool happens on the field and he gets a good nickname organically. Anything but Biscuit. I'd actually prefer to call him Bone Wad. Hehe

Seems to me that a nickname like "the truth" implies something clear and proven, and Mitch is anything but that. That strikes me as a mindless homer nickname, which doesn't even fit you guys who are embracing it. So I'm a bit baffled by that. But I don't really mind "Biscuit" either, so there's that difference in perspective as well. How about "Brisket", since that takes a long time to cook? :-p

[IE]

The Truth could also allude to the type of conclusion Tennessee came to re: MM.

I'm mostly kidding about all this stuff (although I really do think Biscuit is unnecessarily dorky sounding).

Thank god the bye week is over.

Looks like Mitch is going to play this weekend, and I'm pleased to have now heard Nagy say how crazy he'd be to not take advantage of 10's legs. No shit, Sherlock! Show us!

[BreadNCircuses]

Well, Mahomes left the game last night with a dislocated kneecap. Watson keeps getting hit.

My wild-ass prediction is Trubisky will have a longer career than both of them.

[wab]

Well, Mahomes left the game last night with a dislocated kneecap. Watson keeps getting hit.

My wild-ass prediction is Trubisky will have a longer career than both of them.

Yeah, that knee didn't look great.

[G08]

Well, Mahomes left the game last night with a dislocated kneecap. Watson keeps getting hit.

My wild-ass prediction is Trubisky will have a longer career than both of them.

Yeah, that knee didn't look great.

I think he's done for the year if he tore ligaments. If he didn't, reports say he could be back in 3 to 4 weeks.

Still... QB in a bum ankle so you QB sneak him? Dumb.

[BR0D1E86]

Yeah, that knee didn't look great.

I think he's done for the year if he tore ligaments. If he didn't, reports say he could be back in 3 to 4 weeks.

Still... QB in a bum ankle so you QB sneak him? Dumb.

The latest reports are “no major damage” and he’ll be out about 3 weeks.

[Boris13c]

Yeah, that knee didn't look great.

I think he's done for the year if he tore ligaments. If he didn't, reports say he could be back in 3 to 4 weeks.

Still... QB in a bum ankle so you QB sneak him? Dumb.

I've never been a big fan of QB sneak plays ... short yardage you need to get, that is what your RB is for

and I agree with you on Mahomes - he was already gimpy, so why in the world risk him further on something like that?

[HisRoyalSweetness]

Great, so Mahomes is out for the Chiefs' games against the Packers and Vikings, but should be well back into the groove by the time their game with the Bears comes around.

[docc]

To be the best..you need to beat the beat.
.otherwise we just can hope every team Brears play need to lose the top player for us to win..

[UOK]

I believe we’re watching the final few games of Mitch Trubisky as a Bear. They’ll IR him out of “concern” for his injury, but it’s a face-saving benching.

Pace will trade him for scraps and they’ll have another version of the 2019 Kicker Battle in 2020, but with the QB position.

[Bearfanuk]

Not defending mitch but most would struggle with this just terrible play calling.

What we are watching is an actual offensive genius in play up against a guy whose had smoke piped up his ass and is now being schooled.

[WP.1]

and without one single real QB game winning drive.


those 2 drives - with one good pass - dont count.

[BR0D1E86]

Not defending mitch but most would struggle with this just terrible play calling.

What we are watching is an actual offensive genius in play up against a guy whose had smoke piped up his ass and is now being schooled.

I don’t like the play calling either but any play caller would look bad if their quarterback couldn’t his wide open receivers and had the pocket awareness of a tree stump.

[southdakbearfan]

Not defending mitch but most would struggle with this just terrible play calling.

What we are watching is an actual offensive genius in play up against a guy whose had smoke piped up his ass and is now being schooled.

I agree with this.

Mitch isn't playing well, but the playcalling is atrocious at best. 5 running plays the first half, which included the always great shotgun dive of tarik up the gut. 7 total for the game?

If the line is so bad they cannot run, then defenses have the advantage, which is why most of the receivers are running 5 yd patterns.

Blocking scheme needs to be changed, they need to put it to mitch that you make one read, take off looking to pass while scrambling, and use his tools he has while trying to develop the others.

Our offensive line has really taken a shit, worse than our QB.

[BR0D1E86]

Just a random exercise to see if I think Trubisky is better than any NFL starting quarterbacks. Without ranking them, I'll just go by division.

NE - LOL
BUF - Debatable with Josh Allen. I've never thought Allen was any good though.
NYJ - Give me Darnold without even thinking about it
MIA - Fitzmagic is better, which is sad.

KC - LOL
OAK - Carr is better
DEN - Flacco blows, but he's better
LAC - LOL

BAL - Jackson easy
CLE - Even with Mayfield's warts he's far more proven
PIT - Big Ben all day
CIN - Daltown also sucks, but still he's better

IND - Nope
HOU - Nope
JAX - I'd take either of their quarterbacks
TEN - You could argue he's better than Tannehill. You'd be wrong, but you could argue it.

DAL - Nope
PHI - Nope
NYG - He might be better than Jones today, but not for very long if he is
WAS - Keenum is the definition of journeyman. We'd also probably have 1 or 2 more wins with him

SF - Nope
SEA - LOL
LAR - Easily Goff
ARI - Murray is already better

GB - LOL
DET - LOL
MIN - Even their joke of a quarterback is far more proven

NO - LOL, they have two or three better quarterbacks. And one of them would also be the best tight end on our roster
CAR - I think Kyle Allen is already better
TB - Winston is turning into a disaster, so this one is just a dumpster fire, so maybe you could argue it
ATL - Nope

I'd trade him for virtually any starting qb in the NFL, and many of their backups as well. What we need to look into is if Minshew works out, do they trade Foles? He'd make this team much more dangerous.

[Rakshir]

You may want to reconsider Indy, Brisket been tearing it up

[BR0D1E86]

You may want to reconsider Indy, Brisket been tearing it up

Sorry, "Nope" refers to Trubisky being better than that guy. They easily have a better quarterback than us.

[Richie]

Not defending mitch but most would struggle with this just terrible play calling.

What we are watching is an actual offensive genius in play up against a guy whose had smoke piped up his ass and is now being schooled.

I agree with this.

Mitch isn't playing well, but the playcalling is atrocious at best. 5 running plays the first half, which included the always great shotgun dive of tarik up the gut. 7 total for the game?

If the line is so bad they cannot run, then defenses have the advantage, which is why most of the receivers are running 5 yd patterns.

Blocking scheme needs to be changed, they need to put it to mitch that you make one read, take off looking to pass while scrambling, and use his tools he has while trying to develop the others.

Our offensive line has really taken a shit, worse than our QB.

I really don't think there's a legitimate argument to suggest that we should be running more. We created plenty of 3rd and short to intermediates today without running. In fact, I think we did that MOST of the time. We didn't need to run in order to do that. We needed Mitch to complete passes (some of them rudimentary) in order to extend drives. He didn't.

When you gain between 0 and 2 yards on most every run (if positive yardage, at all) with your RB's. You don't just keep doing it because some antiquated conventional wisdom says that you should. That's insanity. I thought we did a fine job picking up small chunks on first/second down with the short passing game. Which is a fine substitute for running.

There's just no excuse here for Mitch anymore. Under any kind of duress he turns into a trembling mess and his mechanics become totally foreign to him. It's disgusting watching him play QB.

You can hope Mitch gets it going... but at this point? You are just saying a prayer. There's nothing else going on. There's nothing to hang your hat on anymore. The excuses are gone. People can't be deluded and keep up this merry-go-round of the blame game.

I haven't listened to any post-game... I think I'll vomit if I hear Nagy or anyone be positive about "not quitting at the end with two touchdown drives". Utterly useless garbage time nonsense.

[Richie]

Just a random exercise to see if I think Trubisky is better than any NFL starting quarterbacks. Without ranking them, I'll just go by division.

NE - LOL
BUF - Debatable with Josh Allen. I've never thought Allen was any good though.
NYJ - Give me Darnold without even thinking about it
MIA - Fitzmagic is better, which is sad.

KC - LOL
OAK - Carr is better
DEN - Flacco blows, but he's better
LAC - LOL

BAL - Jackson easy
CLE - Even with Mayfield's warts he's far more proven
PIT - Big Ben all day
CIN - Daltown also sucks, but still he's better

IND - Nope
HOU - Nope
JAX - I'd take either of their quarterbacks
TEN - You could argue he's better than Tannehill. You'd be wrong, but you could argue it.

DAL - Nope
PHI - Nope
NYG - He might be better than Jones today, but not for very long if he is
WAS - Keenum is the definition of journeyman. We'd also probably have 1 or 2 more wins with him

SF - Nope
SEA - LOL
LAR - Easily Goff
ARI - Murray is already better

GB - LOL
DET - LOL
MIN - Even their joke of a quarterback is far more proven

NO - LOL, they have two or three better quarterbacks. And one of them would also be the best tight end on our roster
CAR - I think Kyle Allen is already better
TB - Winston is turning into a disaster, so this one is just a dumpster fire, so maybe you could argue it
ATL - Nope

I'd trade him for virtually any starting qb in the NFL, and many of their backups as well. What we need to look into is if Minshew works out, do they trade Foles? He'd make this team much more dangerous.

Jameis Winston is basically Jay Cutler and I would gladly take Cutler over Mitch. By a mile.

So, there's not a single QB worse. Josh Allen is becoming pretty damn solid. IMO

Mitch Trubisky is the worst starting QB in football and probably worse than a good handful of backups. He's probably the 40th-50th NFL QB you would want QB'ing a game for you.

[Bears Whiskey Nut]

Has anyone considered that the play calling sucks, partly because Nagy is realizing he can only call 10% of the playbook, because his QB can execute a basic read and pass. He can’t diagnose simple defenses.

[bearsfaninaz]

Has anyone considered that the play calling sucks, partly because Nagy is realizing he can only call 10% of the playbook, because his QB can execute a basic read and pass. He can’t diagnose simple defenses.

I honestly hope this is true in a sense. Would mean trubisky is the problem, and we can fix that. However idk anymore. If the QB is struggling and all you do is call pass plays with little to no run or play action is it the QB or the play caller?

[Bears Whiskey Nut]

Has anyone considered that the play calling sucks, partly because Nagy is realizing he can only call 10% of the playbook, because his QB can execute a basic read and pass. He can’t diagnose simple defenses.

I honestly hope this is true in a sense. Would mean trubisky is the problem, and we can fix that. However idk anymore. If the QB is struggling and all you do is call pass plays with little to no run or play action is it the QB or the play caller?

Well. That’s kind of the big gaping hole in my theory.

[Bears Whiskey Nut]

If Pace and Nagy want to salvage their “regime” they need to make some decisions really fast. No more protecting Mitch in pressers, no more solidarity talk about all the good work that was put in. They need to un-fuck this situation as fast as possible. In my opinion it starts with IR’ing Mitch, claiming he re-injured the shoulder and he has to have surgery. Trading a piece or two, and a 2nd round pick for a serviceable QB on the last year of their deal, from a team that sucks. Anyone is better than what we have right now. However if Pace and Nagy decide to ride the Trubisky train to hell, we’ll be rebuilding again in 2021.

[bearsfaninaz]

If Pace and Nagy want to salvage their “regime” they need to make some decisions really fast. No more protecting Mitch in pressers, no more solidarity talk about all the good work that was put in. They need to un-fuck this situation as fast as possible. In my opinion it starts with IR’ing Mitch, claiming he re-injured the shoulder and he has to have surgery. Trading a piece or two, and a 2nd round pick for a serviceable QB on the last year of their deal, from a team that sucks. Anyone is better than what we have right now. However if Pace and Nagy decide to ride the Trubisky train to hell, we’ll be rebuilding again in 2021.

Out of curiosity what QB would you think is available from other teams?

[Boris13c]

Trubisky has me baffled with some of his decisions and throws

I've seen him drop a perfect back shoulder pass to a well covered receiver and get a TD and I've seen him miss a wide open receiver to kill drives

I've seen him look off the safety and hit a nice deep crossing route and I've seen him stare at his receiver the whole way and give up an easy interception

I've seen him roll out and find the open man for a key reception to keep a drive alive and I've seen him look at a double covered receiver and stubbornly throw it anyway for an interception

and I've seen him do each of these things in the same game

his inconsistency is maddening

[Bears Whiskey Nut]

Trubisky has me baffled with some of his decisions and throws

I've seen him drop a perfect back shoulder pass to a well covered receiver and get a TD and I've seen him miss a wide open receiver to kill drives

I've seen him look off the safety and hit a nice deep crossing route and I've seen him stare at his receiver the whole way and give up an easy interception

I've seen him roll out and find the open man for a key reception to keep a drive alive and I've seen him look at a double covered receiver and stubbornly throw it anyway for an interception

and I've seen him do each of these things in the same game

his inconsistency is maddening

Go watch Brett Kollmann’s piece on Trubisky. He says the exact same thing.