Re: David Montgomery Love
Posted: Fri Nov 08, 2019 11:34 pm
That's the rub, man, the kid has good hands! I thought it was an uncharacteristic drop but it is what it is. Sums up our season thus far in a nut shell.
Over 10 Years of Bearing Down
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That's the rub, man, the kid has good hands! I thought it was an uncharacteristic drop but it is what it is. Sums up our season thus far in a nut shell.
Richie wrote: ↑Fri Nov 08, 2019 9:00 pmThe notion that fans should prefer being 2-14 and an overhaul/strip/rebuild away from competing. Versus 9-7 and a few tweaks away from competing is just... beyond comprehension. IMOThe Marshall Plan wrote: ↑Fri Nov 08, 2019 12:58 pm
Yes, you’re right. I was in the Super Bowl Or Bust group. Coming off of a 12-4 season and a double doink away from maybe winning the whole thing. My expectations were based on Mitch and Nagy having a full offseason to develop, Mack and Roquan in camp for a full offseason and I really liked (and still like) having Pagano over Fangio. I would never slight Vic Fangio but Pagano is more aggressive and we have the personnel for that style of defense.
I was also expecting this team to come out and the start the season like escaped mental patients because of the way last season ended. They don’t display that killer instinct. I think that’s a function of coaching.
In sports, the worst thing to be is mediocre. I either want the Bears to be a playoff team or I want them to go 2-14 and get a high draft pick. None of this 7-9 to 9-7 stuff because its harder to really identify what to fix. In this situation we don’t even have the luxury of the draft choice b/c of the Mack trade. I’m just hoping a disastrous season gets Pace to make changes at HC and QB.
What scares about mediocrity in this case is that it allows the situation to be dragged out for a couple more years hoping for the lightbulb to turn on.
The situation we are in is horrible, but it CAN be fixed without a multi year rebuild. The defense is built to win now. The offense has a lot of potential. Next season can still be great.
This team is fantastic one side of the ball with every piece in place. With talent on the offensive side of the ball as well. Just really missing that one big piece at QB. We are still just 8 games removed from a 12-4 season with an NFC North crown. We even started this season 3-1. This is really a story of a tail spin four game stretch. Yes, some bigger picture problems have potentially been exposed. But for Christ's sake... let's get a grip.
Not to mention, there's half of a football season left. Goodness gracious.
Put it this way. Teams like the Dolphins, Jets, etc. would kill to be in our spot and with this much in place. So, why for the love of god would you willingly choose to be them?
The only reason fans like this want it to all burn is because they're emotionally distraught.
I was responding to someone who wanted it all to burn down. So...IE wrote: ↑Sat Nov 09, 2019 8:07 am
Ritchie - I haven't seen a single person saying "burn it down". I've seen people say OTHER people were saying it... but actually can't remember one saying it. There's an entire thread on the subject, and even there nobody is saying anything really other than they'd like to bench the QB. Benching a starting QB who is demonstrating historically bad production is not calling to burn it down... if anything, it is calling to "try to save it from being burned down by the one guy (the QB)".
Sorry, Ritchie - I guess quote it then, because I didn't see anyone say burn the whole thing down.Richie wrote: ↑Sun Nov 10, 2019 4:39 pmI was responding to someone who wanted it all to burn down. So...IE wrote: ↑Sat Nov 09, 2019 8:07 am
Ritchie - I haven't seen a single person saying "burn it down". I've seen people say OTHER people were saying it... but actually can't remember one saying it. There's an entire thread on the subject, and even there nobody is saying anything really other than they'd like to bench the QB. Benching a starting QB who is demonstrating historically bad production is not calling to burn it down... if anything, it is calling to "try to save it from being burned down by the one guy (the QB)".
And I've been on-board with Trubisky benching.
You couldn't have misread my post more man.
The Marshall Plan wrote: ↑Sat Nov 09, 2019 10:07 amRichie wrote: ↑Fri Nov 08, 2019 9:00 pm
The notion that fans should prefer being 2-14 and an overhaul/strip/rebuild away from competing. Versus 9-7 and a few tweaks away from competing is just... beyond comprehension. IMO
This team is fantastic one side of the ball with every piece in place. With talent on the offensive side of the ball as well. Just really missing that one big piece at QB. We are still just 8 games removed from a 12-4 season with an NFC North crown. We even started this season 3-1. This is really a story of a tail spin four game stretch. Yes, some bigger picture problems have potentially been exposed. But for Christ's sake... let's get a grip.
Not to mention, there's half of a football season left. Goodness gracious.
Put it this way. Teams like the Dolphins, Jets, etc. would kill to be in our spot and with this much in place. So, why for the love of god would you willingly choose to be them?
The only reason fans like this want it to all burn is because they're emotionally distraught.
The problem with the 9-7 team is they're always "a few tweaks away". 90% of the teams in this league have been like that for decades. What Pace did initially with the rebuild of this team was exactly how it should work.
2015: 6-10
2016: 3-13
2017: 5-11
2018: 12-4
That's perfect. And that's with him squandering first round picks over those four years too. Your comment about being 8 games away from 12-4 is meaningless and doesn't really indicate a point. We might as well be on the moon with the way the offense is playing.
That half of a football season only serves to evaluate personnel. 5 losses midway through the season is a death sentence for the season. Now go ahead and find an anecdotal example out of 1,000 other instances and somehow think you've magically countered that point, but with games left against the Packers, Cowboys and Chiefs this team isn't doing shit.
You want me to be thankful we aren't the Dolphins or Jets? Richie please.
This team can easily be fixed, for next year, but I think that Nagy is too proud and Mitch's head is too scrambled for it to happen.
Except we haven't been mediocre since 2013. NOT ONCE. We were trash for four seasons from 14-17 and then won 12 games in 2018.The problem with the 9-7 team is they're always "a few tweaks away".
There does not exist a SINGLE franchise who falls under this umbrella. Not one... much less 90%. Floating between 7-9ish wins for "decades"?90% of the teams in this league have been like that for decades.
I never said that.Your comment about being 8 games away from 12-4 is meaningless and doesn't really indicate a point
Worst to first is not the norm. Generally, there is a year in between where you are average to above average. Teams do not typically skip from 4 straight 10+ loss seasons to 12 wins.What Pace did initially with the rebuild of this team was exactly how it should work.
2015: 6-10
2016: 3-13
2017: 5-11
2018: 12-4
I'm not sitting here and telling you that we're making the playoffs. I'm not even saying that we have an actual shot. You couldn't be further from the point here.Now go ahead and find an anecdotal example out of 1,000 other instances and somehow think you've magically countered that point, but with games left against the Packers, Cowboys and Chiefs this team isn't doing shit.
I don't even see a CONCIEVABLE ARGUMENT where you would rather be one of those teams than us. We just got done being that... lol. The hell? Now you want to go back? After one... ONE SEASON (hell, a half season) where it didn't go perfectly? After a 4 game losing streak? Good lord above. I have heard it all.You want me to be thankful we aren't the Dolphins or Jets? Richie please.
I think the entire point here is that Mitch is a main piece which would likely be replaced. Regardless, that does not = let's go back to square one.This team can easily be fixed, for next year, but I think that Nagy is too proud and Mitch's head is too scrambled for it to happen.