Jim Harbaugh to return to MI
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Nobody really knows what, if anything, conversation, motives or otherwise to put on the Harbaugh situation.
My read is that he's probably not going anywhere, but George assured us that money is no issue, and if every man has a price, then there's always a chance, however unlikely.
I can understand if they reached out and he's just not having it. I have a bigger problem if they never tried.
My read is that he's probably not going anywhere, but George assured us that money is no issue, and if every man has a price, then there's always a chance, however unlikely.
I can understand if they reached out and he's just not having it. I have a bigger problem if they never tried.
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I hope you can be consoled that perhaps, somehow, through back channels, some word about that may have been passed - that is the best you can hope for about that.Burl wrote: ↑Sun Jan 16, 2022 6:11 pm Nobody really knows what, if anything, conversation, motives or otherwise to put on the Harbaugh situation.
My read is that he's probably not going anywhere, but George assured us that money is no issue, and if every man has a price, then there's always a chance, however unlikely.
I can understand if they reached out and he's just not having it. I have a bigger problem if they never tried.
Sorry, Burl.
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They’ve reached out to everyone ELSE … I’d have a hard time believing they didn’t send feelers to Harbaugh.
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This one made me laugh... With no confirmation on either side, we can all still hope this is how it goes... Some decent PS skills for sure.
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You live in Las Vegas, cash big checks, and if it doesn't work in four years you walk away a very rich man.Bears Whiskey Nut wrote: ↑Mon Jan 17, 2022 7:49 pm Personally I think Carr is a crappy QB, and is terribly inconsistent. Additionally Mark Davis is the real life embodiment of Lloyd Christmas. Not sure why that is an attractive job.
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Makes sense if Raiders are serious about hiring Harbaugh and he demands GM control and/or wants to hand pick a GM.
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But Harbaugh could simply sit at Michigan for years and walk away a very rich man.thunderspirit wrote: ↑Mon Jan 17, 2022 7:51 pmYou live in Las Vegas, cash big checks, and if it doesn't work in four years you walk away a very rich man.Bears Whiskey Nut wrote: ↑Mon Jan 17, 2022 7:49 pm Personally I think Carr is a crappy QB, and is terribly inconsistent. Additionally Mark Davis is the real life embodiment of Lloyd Christmas. Not sure why that is an attractive job.
I think an NFL job only interests him if there is a realistic chance of delivering an SB in 3-4 years.
Not at the Raiders, possibly the Bears.
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That's the thing about these college coaches.Ditka’s dictaphone wrote: ↑Mon Jan 17, 2022 9:15 pmBut Harbaugh could simply sit at Michigan for years and walk away a very rich man.thunderspirit wrote: ↑Mon Jan 17, 2022 7:51 pm
You live in Las Vegas, cash big checks, and if it doesn't work in four years you walk away a very rich man.
I think an NFL job only interests him if there is a realistic chance of delivering an SB in 3-4 years.
Not at the Raiders, possibly the Bears.
Most of them don't even need to be great to get paid and to be adored on campus for life.
Depending on the school, you just need to be average. Then you sign a mega deal and walk around that whole area like a king.
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Uber competitive people aren’t really wired that way though.
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Very true.
It is possible the Raiders launched the GM to make themselves more attractive to Harbaugh (like the Bears). There has really got to be 100% certainty that back-channel discussions were had with Harbaugh or his representatives (with Polian, perhaps). Nobody is going to leak that on either side - at least not at this point.
One thing about Harbaugh is not only is he competitive but he's genuinely sentimental. In jumping leagues/levels and going to Michigan, he went home to bring glory back to his former place. That bodes very well for Chicago if he is considering jumping again.
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But the Raiders gave him his start coaching, and he still has a close relationship with Mark Davis. That might prove to be more sentimental to him than his time as a player with the Bears.
On top of that, the Raiders are a better team, closer to competing for a title than the Bears are.
On top of that, the Raiders are a better team, closer to competing for a title than the Bears are.
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Thats what I thought as well. Didn’t he and Ditka have a rocky relationship?
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Its not exactly the best of sources but there was this several years ago
https://thespun.com/big-ten/michigan-wo ... cago-bears
“The Rams want a dynamic guy and they know in Los Angeles it’s all about entertainment,” Trotter said on SportsCenter. “Jim Harbaugh, from what I understand, the Rams is not a job he is looking at. If he were to come back to the NFL, from what I’ve been told, is that his dream job would be in Chicago where he started his playing career under Mike Ditka.
“People are going to take that as me saying he’s looking to leave Michigan, but I’m not saying that at all. If you know Jim Harbaugh the competitor, you’d know he has unfinished business with Ohio State having not beaten Urban Meyer yet. But from what I’ve been told, Chicago would be his NFL dream job.”
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Ditka was Ditka - and his halo basically burned off a long time ago. I can't see Ditka being a reason Harbaugh would not want Chicago. If anything, a competitive guy like Harbaugh would want to come in and exceed Ditka's performance. I personally think where a guy started playing as a starting QB is more powerful emotionally than where he started out as a low-level coach.
I agree the Raiders have some more talent at skill positions right now. But I don't think they're a dramatically better team. The Bears beat them with a green rookie QB and green rookie RB - and I was there to watch it.
I agree the Raiders have some more talent at skill positions right now. But I don't think they're a dramatically better team. The Bears beat them with a green rookie QB and green rookie RB - and I was there to watch it.
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If anything, there is a connection to Davis. Never heard of any connection Harbaugh had with George.
Connections aside, never heard of him chasing the Indy job. He had some success there.
Connections aside, never heard of him chasing the Indy job. He had some success there.
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I probably didn't articulate it the right way.IE wrote: ↑Tue Jan 18, 2022 12:39 pm Ditka was Ditka - and his halo basically burned off a long time ago. I can't see Ditka being a reason Harbaugh would not want Chicago. If anything, a competitive guy like Harbaugh would want to come in and exceed Ditka's performance. I personally think where a guy started playing as a starting QB is more powerful emotionally than where he started out as a low-level coach.
It's not about Harbaugh not wanting to come here because of Ditka.
I just never got the notion that Harbaugh had any major "Warm & Fuzzies" about Chicago. IIRC, he had the majority of his BIG QB success in Indy --"Captain Comeback" and all of that.
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Supposedly he contacted the Jets and Chargers last year when they hsd coaching vacancies. Also he supposedly has been upfront with potential recruits about interest in the NFL. He's the 8th highest paid football coach in the Big 10 and is supposedly in talks for a new contract. C'mon. George, call him and offer $50M for 5 years
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I don't think $10 mil a year will get it for him. Mel Tucker is at $9.5/yr.
In his case, would not be surprised if leaks were not out there to increase his salary at U of M. I have not seen any comments but one (telling recruit he is taking calls from NFL teams or something to that affect) so I am cautious. Then him hiring a DL coach away from ND. To me, that says quite a bit.
In his case, would not be surprised if leaks were not out there to increase his salary at U of M. I have not seen any comments but one (telling recruit he is taking calls from NFL teams or something to that affect) so I am cautious. Then him hiring a DL coach away from ND. To me, that says quite a bit.
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I think 10M would do if, but probably needs to be like 7 years. NFL head coach contracts apparently are generally fully guaranteed whereas NCAA aren't necessarily.Otis Day wrote: ↑Tue Jan 18, 2022 4:13 pm I don't think $10 mil a year will get it for him. Mel Tucker is at $9.5/yr.
In his case, would not be surprised if leaks were not out there to increase his salary at U of M. I have not seen any comments but one (telling recruit he is taking calls from NFL teams or something to that affect) so I am cautious. Then him hiring a DL coach away from ND. To me, that says quite a bit.
75/7 + control of operations I bet would get it done.
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I’ll throw down for $100The Cooler King wrote: ↑Tue Jan 18, 2022 5:41 pmI think 10M would do if, but probably needs to be like 7 years. NFL head coach contracts apparently are generally fully guaranteed whereas NCAA aren't necessarily.Otis Day wrote: ↑Tue Jan 18, 2022 4:13 pm I don't think $10 mil a year will get it for him. Mel Tucker is at $9.5/yr.
In his case, would not be surprised if leaks were not out there to increase his salary at U of M. I have not seen any comments but one (telling recruit he is taking calls from NFL teams or something to that affect) so I am cautious. Then him hiring a DL coach away from ND. To me, that says quite a bit.
75/7 + control of operations I bet would get it done.
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