Hiphopopotamos wrote: ↑Tue Jan 18, 2022 11:54 am
HurricaneBear wrote: ↑Tue Jan 18, 2022 11:19 am
If the GM is so obviously wrong as Emery was, then yes, yes I do. At the end of the day this team is the McCaskeys and if they see a dumb ass decision on the Arians coming off coach of the year vs CFL shy quiet with tons of question marks Trestman then the owner absolutely should step in and say something. Any normal job in the world it would be expected of an owner to step in and correct stupidity. Why not the NFL?
Now the fact that the McCaskey's are idiots as well makes me think they wouldn't realize the wrong decision staring at them. But the point is if they did, they absolutely should step in, GM's ego be damned.
Two things - 1. Overriding the GM decision is exactly what people here routinely accuse the McCaskey's of doing - and get pissed at them for. So on one hand you want them to do it - on the other you're terrified of them doing it.
2. Arians had his own issues. Tom Brady has made his shine a little brighter and 'revisioned' his history a little. Arians went to Arizona had two really good years and then as soon as things started getting hard (a couple of .500 seasons) he 'retired' for health reasons. Then a year later he shows up fully refreshed in Tampa and goes 7-9. He's saved by a retiring NE'er who wants to move to Florida.
Arians was 61 when he was passed over for the Bears job and had never sniffed a HC job until he took over for Pagano. Sure - things might have gone great in Chicago - or he might have decided to retire for 'health' reasons after a couple of shitty years with Jay Cutler.
1 - I believe an owner should take ownership over their own business and run it. If they disagree with a decision, especially an obvious one, I absolutely think that owner should do something in any business. It is their business after all.
I also believe the McCaskey's are idiots. Just because I believe their idiots doesn't mean I don't think they should run their business the way they see fit. It's their business, not mine. I hate alot of the decisions they make but I choose to be a fan of their product, thats on me not them. I also can not remember a time where I have said the McCaskey meddle. Maybe I have and forgot but it's not a line of thinking I really am a part of. So let's not group me with those who think they meddle too much please. Thinking they are idiots that make wrong decisions is different then meddling too much with the coach or GM.
2 - Arians, even with issues, was coming off a coach of the year season, was a respected, tougher coach that had just shown he could lead a locker room during adversity. The Bears were a family type team and Lovie was their father figure. Trestman never had a chance to win that locker room and it was obvious to any one with eyes. If i recall correctly, Marinelli told Emery he wouldnt work with Trestman but would consider Arians. That should have given Emery the pulse of the locker room right there.
Just because he could have retired due to health reasons does not mean it would have been the wrong choice to hire him. The right and obvious choice at the time was Arians, and that's agreed on by most people. I'm not stating anything crazy with this one. No revisionist history needed. Arians record in Pitt, Indy was enough and his time with the Cardinals would have been worlds better if that's all we got than what Trestman delivered.