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 Post subject: Drew F'n Brees
PostPosted: Wed Oct 10, 2018 1:01 am 
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cblaz11 wrote:
Where does he rank all time? Top 5? Top 10?

Great player and seems like a class act.

Quarterbacks? Top 3 for me. He can’t control how terrible some of those defenses have been. He’s a baller.


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 Post subject: Re: Drew F'n Brees
PostPosted: Wed Oct 10, 2018 5:12 am 
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He'd have to be top 10 at a minimum. Top 5 most likely.

My list is:

1. The GOAT
2. Joe Montana
3. Peyton Manning
4. Brees? I don't know if I could put him ahead of those three other guys.

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 Post subject: Re: Drew F'n Brees
PostPosted: Wed Oct 10, 2018 5:33 am 
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BR0D1E86 wrote:
cblaz11 wrote:
Where does he rank all time? Top 5? Top 10?

Great player and seems like a class act.

Quarterbacks? Top 3 for me. He can’t control how terrible some of those defenses have been. He’s a baller.


*cough* could have taken less money *cough*

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 Post subject: Drew F'n Brees
PostPosted: Wed Oct 10, 2018 5:54 am 
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malk wrote:
BR0D1E86 wrote:
cblaz11 wrote:
Where does he rank all time? Top 5? Top 10?

Great player and seems like a class act.

Quarterbacks? Top 3 for me. He can’t control how terrible some of those defenses have been. He’s a baller.


*cough* could have taken less money *cough*

Sure, but that doesn’t impact how great of a player he is/was.


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 Post subject: Re: Drew F'n Brees
PostPosted: Wed Oct 10, 2018 6:17 am 
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BR0D1E86 wrote:
malk wrote:
BR0D1E86 wrote:
cblaz11 wrote:
Where does he rank all time? Top 5? Top 10?

Great player and seems like a class act.

Quarterbacks? Top 3 for me. He can’t control how terrible some of those defenses have been. He’s a baller.


*cough* could have taken less money *cough*

Sure, but that doesn’t impact how great of a player he is/was.


I was meaning that he had some measure of control on the defences, cap dollars to him are cap dollars that can't go on defence. I think that will impact how great he's perceived to be as 1 ring isn't enough to be in the conversation with the 1st tier QBs, at least for a lot of people.

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 Post subject: Re: Drew F'n Brees
PostPosted: Wed Oct 10, 2018 6:40 am 
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Man..I think he’s top 15 for sure...maybe top 10...but top 5??

You know the guy who’s probably going to take over for him as the all time leading passer right? Matt Stafford...

Montana
Brady
Manning
Rogers
Elway
Favre
Marino
Young(maybe)

These are guys I’d take before Brees. This isn’t even counting some of the older guys. I like Brees and think he’s an all time great, but you have to take stats now a days with a grain of salt. If you look at some of the names on the all time list you’ll know why.


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 Post subject: Re: Drew F'n Brees
PostPosted: Wed Oct 10, 2018 10:30 am 
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People really do tend to discount scheme continuity and coaching ability when evaluating QBs.

Brady, for example, recently said that if Aaron Rodgers was in Bill Belichick's system, he'd throw for 7,000 yards every season.

That being said:

Montana
Rodgers
Brady (I'm a notorious Brady hater, but I can't discount the rings)
Manning
Elway
Marino
Favre
Brees

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 Post subject: Re: Drew F'n Brees
PostPosted: Thu Oct 11, 2018 5:16 am 
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Brady
Montana
Manning
Elway
Unitas (top 15 in stats, and played when passing was taboo. )
Rodgers
Brees
Marino
Farve
Young
Graham (whom I really know nothing about)


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 Post subject: Re: Drew F'n Brees
PostPosted: Thu Oct 11, 2018 2:47 pm 
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G08 wrote:
People really do tend to discount scheme continuity and coaching ability when evaluating QBs.


well we are Bears fans ... so since we only rarely see scheme continuity and coaching ability, it is only natural for us not to consider it as part of any evaluation equation

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