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 Post subject: Re: Rams vs. Chiefs
PostPosted: Tue Nov 20, 2018 6:05 am 
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Get occupied doing some shit around the house and come back in and the Chefs have the lead. Damn.


I know right? I went up to put the kids down and the Rams were up by 13. I come back down 10 minutes later, and the Chiefs are up by 1. WTF?

Rams RT is not good.


Paging Mr. Mack. Mr. Mack please pick up the nearest courtesy phone.

I still have that game as a loss for us, but wow if we won that one. Holy shit.

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 Post subject: Re: Rams vs. Chiefs
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Bears Whiskey Nut wrote:
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Get occupied doing some shit around the house and come back in and the Chefs have the lead. Damn.


I know right? I went up to put the kids down and the Rams were up by 13. I come back down 10 minutes later, and the Chiefs are up by 1. WTF?

Rams RT is not good.


Paging Mr. Mack. Mr. Mack please pick up the nearest courtesy phone.

I still have that game as a loss for us, but wow if we won that one. Holy shit.


I think that the Bears' defense is going to smack them in the mouth in a way they haven't had to deal with yet. However I still think we lose that game by at least a TD. Goff drops dimes all over the place. That pass to Everett down the sideline was just SICK!

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 Post subject: Re: Rams vs. Chiefs
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Mahomes 5 TOs and he still had a rating of 117? He had great #s, but 5 TOs and still that impressive of a rating, doesn't seem right to me.


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 Post subject: Re: Rams vs. Chiefs
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Mahomes 5 TOs and he still had a rating of 117? He had great #s, but 5 TOs and still that impressive of a rating, doesn't seem right to me.


That is the argument that espn used for creating the new qbr formula.

Trubisky vs the vikes was an 83 under the qbr formula and a 60something in the old one. Takes into account situation, rushing and other things. Actually his qbr rating was higher than Goff or Mahomes last night under that formula.

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 Post subject: Re: Rams vs. Chiefs
PostPosted: Tue Nov 20, 2018 9:32 am 
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the Arena League, alive on NFL Monday Night Football

wildest weirdest game I've seen in a while

nice that the at times questionable officiating did not influence the outcome



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Otis Day wrote:
Mahomes 5 TOs and he still had a rating of 117? He had great #s, but 5 TOs and still that impressive of a rating, doesn't seem right to me.


That is the argument that espn used for creating the new qbr formula.

Trubisky vs the vikes was an 83 under the qbr formula and a 60something in the old one. Takes into account situation, rushing and other things. Actually his qbr rating was higher than Goff or Mahomes last night under that formula.

Neither are perfect or an end all.



all of these ratings systems are for the talking heads to get into a foaming frenzy over and have no bearing on real life since the math seems intentionally skewed

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 Post subject: Re: Rams vs. Chiefs
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This game is insane.

It was entertaining, that's for sure.

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 Post subject: Re: Rams vs. Chiefs
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The NFL pissed off everyone with Rams-Chiefs ‘all-star’ refs

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It exceeded the hype. The scoreboard was bursting, defenders’ bodies were flying everywhere and the balls were flying faster.

The flags were soaring, too.

The future-of-the-NFL showdown between the Chiefs and Rams on Monday night featured 105 points (fun!) and 21 accepted penalties (less fun!). The whistle problem was an ironic one after the NFL went out of its way to put its best stripes on the field, knowing the added attention the high-powered faceoff would command.

Officials were reassigned from other crews and shoehorned into Clete Blakeman’s team, which reportedly traded four of its members in the shuffle. The NFL tried to find the highest-performing refs in assembling a sort of all-star team of zebras. And like a haphazard all-star team, the built-in cohesion was missing and officials appeared to err on the side of throwing flags; there were 26 penalties called in all.

“Too many penalties, a lot of penalties in the first quarter,” Chiefs coach Andy Reid told reporters after their 54-51 loss, in which Kansas City was penalized 13 times and Los Angeles eight. “I don’t know about those, but they called them, and so we were going backwards when we needed to go forward and you don’t want to put yourself in a hole like that. We had too many penalties. Thirteen penalties overall and I think eight of them were in the first quarter, so we’ve got to do a better job of that.”

The teams were not thrilled with the quick-trigger flags. What about other NFL players?

“CANT EVEN PLAY DEFENSE,” wrote Houston’s Tyrann Mathieu.

“[Shaking my head] they just want points,” San Francisco’s Richard Sherman added.

How about other officials?

“I continue to read the term ‘all star’ as it relates to the crew tonight and am thoroughly disheartened that the NFL has chosen to take this action and give the perception that some officials are ‘stars’ and some are not worthy,” former longtime official Terry McAulay wrote.

ESPN reported Jerome Boger was one of the ones originally scheduled to officiate the game only to be switched out, a public slight that officials as a whole surely do not appreciate.



there were some truly bullshit penalties amongst those called

and I still don't get this "hit on a defenseless receiver" nonsense and the way it is being interpreted

as I recall, that rule was put into place initially to keep receivers who went up for passes and didn't make the catch from being obliterated ... and in that sense, it is a perfectly reasonable call

what I don't get now is how a receiver who has made the catch can't be tackled ... wtf are defenders supposed to do?

if the crew on MNF was what amounts to an NFL all star zebra crew, the best at their positions, then our worst fears have been realized because their flag tossing shit show was atrocious

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 Post subject: Re: Rams vs. Chiefs
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The NFL pissed off everyone with Rams-Chiefs ‘all-star’ refs

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It exceeded the hype. The scoreboard was bursting, defenders’ bodies were flying everywhere and the balls were flying faster.

The flags were soaring, too.

The future-of-the-NFL showdown between the Chiefs and Rams on Monday night featured 105 points (fun!) and 21 accepted penalties (less fun!). The whistle problem was an ironic one after the NFL went out of its way to put its best stripes on the field, knowing the added attention the high-powered faceoff would command.

Officials were reassigned from other crews and shoehorned into Clete Blakeman’s team, which reportedly traded four of its members in the shuffle. The NFL tried to find the highest-performing refs in assembling a sort of all-star team of zebras. And like a haphazard all-star team, the built-in cohesion was missing and officials appeared to err on the side of throwing flags; there were 26 penalties called in all.

“Too many penalties, a lot of penalties in the first quarter,” Chiefs coach Andy Reid told reporters after their 54-51 loss, in which Kansas City was penalized 13 times and Los Angeles eight. “I don’t know about those, but they called them, and so we were going backwards when we needed to go forward and you don’t want to put yourself in a hole like that. We had too many penalties. Thirteen penalties overall and I think eight of them were in the first quarter, so we’ve got to do a better job of that.”

The teams were not thrilled with the quick-trigger flags. What about other NFL players?

“CANT EVEN PLAY DEFENSE,” wrote Houston’s Tyrann Mathieu.

“[Shaking my head] they just want points,” San Francisco’s Richard Sherman added.

How about other officials?

“I continue to read the term ‘all star’ as it relates to the crew tonight and am thoroughly disheartened that the NFL has chosen to take this action and give the perception that some officials are ‘stars’ and some are not worthy,” former longtime official Terry McAulay wrote.

ESPN reported Jerome Boger was one of the ones originally scheduled to officiate the game only to be switched out, a public slight that officials as a whole surely do not appreciate.



there were some truly bullshit penalties amongst those called

and I still don't get this "hit on a defenseless receiver" nonsense and the way it is being interpreted

as I recall, that rule was put into place initially to keep receivers who went up for passes and didn't make the catch from being obliterated ... and in that sense, it is a perfectly reasonable call

what I don't get now is how a receiver who has made the catch can't be tackled ... wtf are defenders supposed to do?

if the crew on MNF was what amounts to an NFL all star zebra crew, the best at their positions, then our worst fears have been realized because their flag tossing shit show was atrocious


I totally agree. If the receiver is going to try and catch it, the defender HAS to have the opportunity to separate the receiver from the ball. I mean WTF is he supposed to do?

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