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Update: Le'Veon Bell signs with NY Jets

Posted: Mon Mar 11, 2019 1:54 pm
by docc
27..but huge salary hit.. Sat out a season..off field problems with PEDs..?

Re: Le'Veon Bell

Posted: Mon Mar 11, 2019 1:59 pm
by Otis Day
I'll skip over this guy. Just think he will be wanting the moon, the stars, the galaxy. He wants to make up money he didn't earn last year. Just don't think he is needed on this team at this time, or any other. I do not begrudge him for sitting out. He didn't come across as a jag, at least what I have read (unlike AB). Just no.

Re: Le'Veon Bell

Posted: Mon Mar 11, 2019 2:01 pm
by docc
Yeah..and I think his $$ demands will be way up there..

Re: Le'Veon Bell

Posted: Mon Mar 11, 2019 2:04 pm
by UOK
Not even picking up the phone.

Re: Le'Veon Bell

Posted: Mon Mar 11, 2019 2:11 pm
by UOK
What the fuck?

https://www.bleachernation.com/bears/20 ... veon-bell/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

@MattVerderame

Per a source with knowledge of the situation, the #Jets are frontrunners for Le'Veon Bell. A new team to closely monitor though, the #Bears. Chicago has significant interest in Bell.

Re: Le'Veon Bell

Posted: Mon Mar 11, 2019 2:14 pm
by southdakbearfan
According to bleacher report Twitter and other sites.

Every team has interest in every single player except when they don’t have interest. And they may have interest even when they don’t have interest except for the times they don’t have interest but really do except when they don’t.

Re: Le'Veon Bell

Posted: Mon Mar 11, 2019 2:15 pm
by wab
Gross. I would dislike this very much.

Re: Le'Veon Bell

Posted: Mon Mar 11, 2019 2:41 pm
by Funkster
To add a back that has averaged 1,900 all purpose yards and 10 TDS over the past 2 season he played would set this offense over the top. If Pace can work out a deal, I would be all for it. It doesn’t seems very likely but neither did K.Mack.

Re: Le'Veon Bell

Posted: Mon Mar 11, 2019 2:47 pm
by southdakbearfan
Not sold on bell. Conner would have been around 1800 apy if he had played the full 16. Bell definitely is good but the price difference between the two just hoses their team for bringing in other talent.

I highly doubt they can fit him in without serious ramifications the following seasons to the cap.

Rumor was that bell was up to about 260 as well.

Re: Le'Veon Bell

Posted: Mon Mar 11, 2019 3:09 pm
by Funkster
southdakbearfan wrote: Rumor was that bell was up to about 260 as well.

The rumor he’s up around 260lbs is completely false. I saw a video (that was posted 4 days ago) of him hanging out with a player on KC, he looked to be in very good shape. I wouldn’t put him 5lbs over his listed 225 weight. This guy is an elite all purpose back, those don’t come around very often. Now if he’s asking 15M a year, it’s most likely not in the cards. But if Pace can get him to bite around 10 for a few years, I would be all for it!

Re: Le'Veon Bell

Posted: Mon Mar 11, 2019 3:33 pm
by southdakbearfan
But 10 million for a few years means you most likely are letting Floyd walk after this season, could impact others like Cohen, Miller, trevathon and Jackson on their extensions.

To do it you are most likely reworking a huge portion of Mack’s deal which then impact what weapons you can keep around Trubisky when he comes due in two more seasons.

10 million would be a cheap signing for bell and I would propose that it isn’t Even a real consideration for pace.

It’s easy for us as fans to want all the best and to bring back their own best. But in the cap era that’s how teams get in a multi year cap hell.

Re: Le'Veon Bell

Posted: Mon Mar 11, 2019 3:50 pm
by DaSuperfan
I don't see the Bears in on Bell - just doesn't make any sense IMO from a financial standpoint. The Steelers basically got the same level of production from Conner, a former R3 pick on a rookie deal. It would make more sense to trade Howard, sign Ingram to a short term deal and then draft a kid in the mid rounds. Nagy seems like he wants to employ the RB by committee approach anyways and signing Bell wouldn't really fit in that category.

Re: Le'Veon Bell

Posted: Mon Mar 11, 2019 4:08 pm
by Funkster
southdakbearfan wrote:But 10 million for a few years means you most likely are letting Floyd walk after this season, could impact others like Cohen, Miller, trevathon and Jackson on their extensions.

To do it you are most likely reworking a huge portion of Mack’s deal which then impact what weapons you can keep around Trubisky when he comes due in two more seasons.

10 million would be a cheap signing for bell and I would propose that it isn’t Even a real consideration for pace.

It’s easy for us as fans to want all the best and to bring back their own best. But in the cap era that’s how teams get in a multi year cap hell.

But is he worth if for a legit shot at the Super Bowl? Even just one?

Re: Le'Veon Bell

Posted: Mon Mar 11, 2019 4:18 pm
by Otis Day
$14.5 million was not reason enough for him to play last year. Can't see him taking $10 mil this year or a salary that avgs that. I don't want the Bears to have a shot at ONE Super Bowl, I want the Bears to be a consistent team that has a shot at multiple Super Bowls.

Re: Le'Veon Bell

Posted: Mon Mar 11, 2019 4:32 pm
by Funkster
Otis Day wrote:$14.5 million was not reason enough for him to play last year. Can't see him taking $10 mil this year or a salary that avgs that. I don't want the Bears to have a shot at ONE Super Bowl, I want the Bears to be a consistent team that has a shot at multiple Super Bowls.

Reality says there is only 1 team that has that shot and it’s not the bears. The window is small and is getting smaller every year. I don’t think signing Bell is a reality but we can’t sit here and say he isn’t what this offense needs or the type of player Nagy is looking for. They could make it happen if they really wanted to.

Re: Le'Veon Bell

Posted: Mon Mar 11, 2019 4:33 pm
by The Marshall Plan
UOK wrote:What the fuck?

https://www.bleachernation.com/bears/20 ... veon-bell/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

@MattVerderame

Per a source with knowledge of the situation, the #Jets are frontrunners for Le'Veon Bell. A new team to closely monitor though, the #Bears. Chicago has significant interest in Bell.
Outstanding.

It's a trip to the Super Bowl if we sign him. I'm guessing we definitely trade Howard in this scenario. I still say draft an RB.

Pace has a way of getting somebody that he wants. This wouldn't surprise me in the slightest.

Re: Le'Veon Bell

Posted: Mon Mar 11, 2019 4:49 pm
by IotaNet
Funkster wrote:... It doesn’t seems very likely but neither did K.Mack.
This right here.

If history has shown us anything, it's shown that if Pace has his sights set on a guy, he WILL make a strong move to go get him. At this point, I trust Pace's judgement implicitly.

And finances and logic aside, wouldn't that be a CRAZY BIG splash?

Re: Le'Veon Bell

Posted: Mon Mar 11, 2019 4:54 pm
by Mikefive
Funkster wrote:To add a back that has averaged 1,900 all purpose yards and 10 TDS over the past 2 season he played would set this offense over the top. If Pace can work out a deal, I would be all for it. It doesn’t seems very likely but neither did K.Mack.
Except that he was replaced by a rookie 3rd rounder who was productive in the same offense. That is the game changer for me. Even with Rothlisberger and Brown, Pittsburgh has been a team who likes to lean on the run. So no big surprise they did that successfully with Bell's rookie replacement. But their running game was already well established. Is ours?

I'm going with NO, considering we have not run the ball well power blocking and we didn't see a bunch of holes that Howard couldn't hit. At least I didn't. So spending a pile of cash on a RB who came from an established run game and expecting him to be productive in our offense that isn't nearly as established in that part of the game is a recipe for disaster.

Just say NO.

Re: Le'Veon Bell

Posted: Mon Mar 11, 2019 4:56 pm
by Funkster
The Marshall Plan wrote:
UOK wrote:What the fuck?

https://www.bleachernation.com/bears/20 ... veon-bell/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

@MattVerderame

Per a source with knowledge of the situation, the #Jets are frontrunners for Le'Veon Bell. A new team to closely monitor though, the #Bears. Chicago has significant interest in Bell.
Outstanding.

It's a trip to the Super Bowl if we sign him. I'm guessing we definitely trade Howard in this scenario. I still say draft an RB.

Pace has a way of getting somebody that he wants. This wouldn't surprise me in the slightest.
Only thing that is weird is Pace has worked other big name signings in total stealth mode. Why would he let this info leak?

Re: Le'Veon Bell

Posted: Mon Mar 11, 2019 5:10 pm
by IotaNet
Mikefive wrote:Except that he was replaced by a rookie 3rd rounder who was productive in the same offense ...
Not exactly.

I'm not an advanced analytics junkie but this is not the first article I've seen that peels back the onion on the production difference between Bell and his replacement. This writer argues that the difference was significant.

Analysis: Advanced stats say Steelers missed Le'Veon Bell -- a lot
https://www.post-gazette.com/sports/ste ... 1902140182" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Re: Le'Veon Bell

Posted: Mon Mar 11, 2019 5:16 pm
by Funkster
Out of the teams mentioned, the bears have to be the team he would want to play for the most, right?

Re: Le'Veon Bell

Posted: Tue Mar 12, 2019 9:05 am
by UOK
Looks like Bell's made a decision, but nothing out yet about where.

Re: Le'Veon Bell

Posted: Tue Mar 12, 2019 9:12 am
by Otis Day
Odds are he goes to the highest bidder, my thoughts.

Re: Le'Veon Bell

Posted: Tue Mar 12, 2019 9:16 am
by G08
I'm guessing the Jets made him an offer he couldn't refuse...

Re: Le'Veon Bell

Posted: Tue Mar 12, 2019 9:26 am
by The Marshall Plan
Why rework Mack's contract for that huge amount of money then?

The team needed a QB. Pace got one.
The team needed a pass rusher. Pace got one.

Now the team needs a RB. This wouldn't be a shocker at all.

FOR WHOM THE BELL TOLLS!

Re: Le'Veon Bell

Posted: Tue Mar 12, 2019 9:31 am
by Otis Day
He can rework all he wants, but if the amount is not as high as another team, you can't put it all on Pace. Looks like he is trying.

Re: Le'Veon Bell

Posted: Tue Mar 12, 2019 9:31 am
by G08
The Marshall Plan wrote:Why rework Mack's contract for that huge amount of money then?

The team needed a QB. Pace got one.
The team needed a pass rusher. Pace got one.

Now the team needs a RB. This wouldn't be a shocker at all.

FOR WHOM THE BELL TOLLS!
Pace could look to extend our own guys or he's looking at other players... no idea man.

Re: Le'Veon Bell

Posted: Tue Mar 12, 2019 9:40 am
by wab
Im warming up to the idea of Bell. Which means the Bears won’t sign him.

Re: Le'Veon Bell

Posted: Tue Mar 12, 2019 9:42 am
by VA_Mountain_Bear
wab wrote:Im warming up to the idea of Bell. Which means the Bears won’t sign him.
Haha! The power of positive pessimism...if I want it, it won't be, if I don't wan't it, it might be.

Re: Le'Veon Bell

Posted: Tue Mar 12, 2019 9:45 am
by G08
wab wrote:Im warming up to the idea of Bell. Which means the Bears won’t sign him.
Doth I smelleth another jersey in your future good sir?