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Packers are going to win this game. Seattle looks terrible tonight.
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Fuck. Just fuck.
I hate Goon Bay.
I hate Goon Bay.
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I really hate this sport sometimes. What a shitty football season.
Hopefully they go into San Francisco and get the shit kicked out of them.
Hopefully they go into San Francisco and get the shit kicked out of them.
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Do people really think that if Nagy had Derrick Henry, that he wouldn't be a focal point of the offense?Bears Whiskey Nut wrote: ↑Sun Jan 12, 2020 6:50 pmIt also helps that Derrick Henry is an absolute monster. The guy is a freak at 6'3" 247lbs and 4.5 speed. That's just sick.The Marshall Plan wrote: ↑Sun Jan 12, 2020 6:13 am Hopefully Nagy is taking notes watching the Titans play.
The offense is modified to help a struggling QB by committing to the run and using rollouts. Then the trick plays are used as the exception and not the rule.
Running the ball then drains the clock causing a superior opponent (at least on paper) to have to air the ball out to play catch up and then they lose.
And no, @wab I'm not longing for the days of Jim Miller. I just want a HC that adapts to the reality of his personnel and not his flights of fancy with whatever offense he uses.
Literally no Bears RB that has been on the roster the last two years comes close to that dude.
Yeah, I doubt Nagy would make Henry the focus, because Nagy doesn't know much about the running game, which is why he farmed it out so to speak. He seems to believe in a focus on the passing game, with a lot of different formations, motion etc,...finesse in other words.
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Yes that’s exactly what I think.wab wrote: ↑Mon Jan 13, 2020 10:47 amDo people really think that if Nagy had Derrick Henry, that he wouldn't be a focal point of the offense?Bears Whiskey Nut wrote: ↑Sun Jan 12, 2020 6:50 pm
It also helps that Derrick Henry is an absolute monster. The guy is a freak at 6'3" 247lbs and 4.5 speed. That's just sick.
Literally no Bears RB that has been on the roster the last two years comes close to that dude.
Nagy had Jordan Howard of all people traded. Yes, of course Howard isn’t on the level of Henry, but Nagy’s idea of a running game is Cohen up the middle, Patterson in the wildcat and Mitch doing QB sneaks coming off of a shoulder injury. So yeah, I don’t think Nagy would have a place for Henry.
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I'm sorry man, but Jordan Howard isn't in the same stratosphere as Derrick Henry.The Marshall Plan wrote: ↑Mon Jan 13, 2020 12:58 pmYes that’s exactly what I think.
Nagy had Jordan Howard of all people traded. Yes, of course Howard isn’t on the level of Henry, but Nagy’s idea of a running game is Cohen up the middle, Patterson in the wildcat and Mitch doing QB sneaks coming off of a shoulder injury. So yeah, I don’t think Nagy would have a place for Henry.
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After watching KC and Philly, I am not sure Nagy would want a Henry. He would not go out and seek a Henry type back because his offense is not set up for a Henry type back.
If a Henry type back was here when Nagy arrived, I would like to think he would use that back to the back's potential.
All speculation, but Reid doesn't need a Henry type back, so Nags is right there with his mentor.
If a Henry type back was here when Nagy arrived, I would like to think he would use that back to the back's potential.
All speculation, but Reid doesn't need a Henry type back, so Nags is right there with his mentor.
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Nagy's biggest misconception is that Tarik Cohen = Tyreek HillOtis Day wrote: ↑Mon Jan 13, 2020 1:45 pm After watching KC and Philly, I am not sure Nagy would want a Henry. He would not go out and seek a Henry type back because his offense is not set up for a Henry type back.
If a Henry type back was here when Nagy arrived, I would like to think he would use that back to the back's potential.
All speculation, but Reid doesn't need a Henry type back, so Nags is right there with his mentor.
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I agree. He's not.wab wrote: ↑Mon Jan 13, 2020 1:00 pmI'm sorry man, but Jordan Howard isn't in the same stratosphere as Derrick Henry.The Marshall Plan wrote: ↑Mon Jan 13, 2020 12:58 pm
Yes that’s exactly what I think.
Nagy had Jordan Howard of all people traded. Yes, of course Howard isn’t on the level of Henry, but Nagy’s idea of a running game is Cohen up the middle, Patterson in the wildcat and Mitch doing QB sneaks coming off of a shoulder injury. So yeah, I don’t think Nagy would have a place for Henry.
Yet Nagy had a reliable 1,000 yard / year rusher and got him traded out of town because he didn't fit the offense.
How does Henry fit the offense in a way that Howard didn't?
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That thousand yard a year rusher barely got over 500 yards and did he even have a dozen catches?The Marshall Plan wrote: ↑Mon Jan 13, 2020 6:02 pmI agree. He's not.
Yet Nagy had a reliable 1,000 yard / year rusher and got him traded out of town because he didn't fit the offense.
How does Henry fit the offense in a way that Howard didn't?
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MoFugger wrote: ↑Tue Jan 14, 2020 8:54 pmThat thousand yard a year rusher barely got over 500 yards and did he even have a dozen catches?The Marshall Plan wrote: ↑Mon Jan 13, 2020 6:02 pm
I agree. He's not.
Yet Nagy had a reliable 1,000 yard / year rusher and got him traded out of town because he didn't fit the offense.
How does Henry fit the offense in a way that Howard didn't?
Howard had an injury plagued year with the Eagles and missed significant playing time ... he did however have 1,000+ yards as a Bear in his first 2 years and only missed 1,000 in year 3 because he was less utilized
I think the point being made was Nagy is not looking for a RB to build a ground game around and pound the football which is contrary to Chicago history ... so he wouldn't even be interested in Henry as that type of back does not meet his criteria
unfortunately, his alternate plan is not yet a proven success
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