Update: 49ers keeping Garoppolo through 2021
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I can't find the original source but this is starting to pick up some steam.
Obviously we won't know how true anything is until March hits and the new league year starts.
But a move like this seems more in line with what the Bears can do and likely would do.
Not that I am happy with it.
But at the same time I could see the Bears also drafting a quarterback if they make this move, and having a genuine quarterback competition to see who starts - Jimmy g, foles, or the rookie.
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He's not financially realistic either - unless he signs an extension & restructure, which management better not be letting Pace do.
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It's possible he'd consider a restructure without an extension. He doesn't have anything in the way of guarantees left, so if he could do a signing bonus with a slightly lower base that could help, especially if he gets to help dictate his landing spot.
I'd be underwhelmed. He'd be a guy I'd be much more interested in as a cut candidate, not someone I'd actually want to trade assets for.
Ultimately some initial shoe is going to drop like Stafford or perhaps Watson. After one or both of those the market will start aligning.
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Not sure why we need yet another QB thread just for this latest speculation, but I'll bite...
I have no idea why Pace and Nagy would want to trade for a QB who has played fewer than half of the 49ers games and only one season with more than 6 games during his four year stint with them.
We all had concerns about Foles being able to complete a full season. We'd be in the same boat with Garoppolo.
His passer rating is good, but his TD:INT ratio is nothing to shout about; 46:26 with the 49ers, 51:26 for his career.
In 2019, the only time Garoppolo has played a full season and the 49ers went to the Super Bowl, the team had the second highest rushing attempts in the league (behind the Ravens with all Lamar Jackson's runs) and the ninth highest ypc at 4.6. Unless Nagy fundamentally changes his ways, Garoppolo wouldn't benefit from that type of rushing output in Chicago.
In my opinion Trubisky's got a way better chance of being a superstar in San Francisco than Garoppolo has of being one in Chicago.
I have no idea why Pace and Nagy would want to trade for a QB who has played fewer than half of the 49ers games and only one season with more than 6 games during his four year stint with them.
We all had concerns about Foles being able to complete a full season. We'd be in the same boat with Garoppolo.
His passer rating is good, but his TD:INT ratio is nothing to shout about; 46:26 with the 49ers, 51:26 for his career.
In 2019, the only time Garoppolo has played a full season and the 49ers went to the Super Bowl, the team had the second highest rushing attempts in the league (behind the Ravens with all Lamar Jackson's runs) and the ninth highest ypc at 4.6. Unless Nagy fundamentally changes his ways, Garoppolo wouldn't benefit from that type of rushing output in Chicago.
In my opinion Trubisky's got a way better chance of being a superstar in San Francisco than Garoppolo has of being one in Chicago.
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Supposedly, the 49ers have offered 2 #2's and 2 #3's for Stafford.
Garoppolo will probably be pretty cheap in trade value, given his injury history and bad salary situation.
He would make signing any Free agent problematic, given that 20-25mil is likely the amount we will have after cuts/trades and restructuring
Garoppolo will probably be pretty cheap in trade value, given his injury history and bad salary situation.
He would make signing any Free agent problematic, given that 20-25mil is likely the amount we will have after cuts/trades and restructuring
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They can designate him a June 1st cut and only lose $1.4M in cap space.Atkins&Rebel wrote: ↑Sat Jan 30, 2021 1:11 pm Supposedly, the 49ers have offered 2 #2's and 2 #3's for Stafford.
Garoppolo will probably be pretty cheap in trade value, given his injury history and bad salary situation.
He would make signing any Free agent problematic, given that 20-25mil is likely the amount we will have after cuts/trades and restructuring
I'm not sure his $26.4M cap number for 2021 is tradeable (unless that number goes down for some reason if he's traded).
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OMG. Stafford with Shanahan's offense, running game and a good defense? They'd be the team to beat in the NFC.Atkins&Rebel wrote: ↑Sat Jan 30, 2021 1:11 pm Supposedly, the 49ers have offered 2 #2's and 2 #3's for Stafford.
Garoppolo will probably be pretty cheap in trade value, given his injury history and bad salary situation.
He would make signing any Free agent problematic, given that 20-25mil is likely the amount we will have after cuts/trades and restructuring
Why would the Bears be looking at such an obviously low level candidate as Garoppolo? Because they don't have resources and could get him for a cup of coffee. Of course Pace would give up a R3 pick.
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I've seen trade scenarios with the Bears giving up a 2nd and another pick. Another scenario was trading a player such as Fuller straight up. I don't think it's worth it, Jimmy G's health has to be a concern
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That'd be insane! How much would he get paid this year on the open market? I'd be absolutely livid at this.
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Jimmy is overrated. Well was overrated I should say not sure if he still is after his stint with the 49ers. So of course he would be the one the Bears would go after. Learned alot from that Foles trade last year Ryan?
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I don’t get this at all. Is Garappolo even better than Mitch? Last year’s numbers don’t really suggest so. Yet people are talking about giving up picks in addition to taking on his salary?
This team needs every pick it has.
You can get a Jimmy G. level QB on the open market. I’d argue we already have one on the roster in Foles. A true game changer like Watson is one thing, but come on....
This team needs every pick it has.
You can get a Jimmy G. level QB on the open market. I’d argue we already have one on the roster in Foles. A true game changer like Watson is one thing, but come on....
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It’s not that I don’t like Jimmy, but didn’t the Bears already trade for an injured QB with a bad contract last year?
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Yea there’s no need to give up picks to get him, if that’s required then pass.Burl wrote: ↑Sun Jan 31, 2021 9:57 am I don’t get this at all. Is Garappolo even better than Mitch? Last year’s numbers don’t really suggest so. Yet people are talking about giving up picks in addition to taking on his salary?
This team needs every pick it has.
You can get a Jimmy G. level QB on the open market. I’d argue we already have one on the roster in Foles. A true game changer like Watson is one thing, but come on....
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Last year's numbers?Burl wrote: ↑Sun Jan 31, 2021 9:57 am I don’t get this at all. Is Garappolo even better than Mitch? Last year’s numbers don’t really suggest so. Yet people are talking about giving up picks in addition to taking on his salary?
This team needs every pick it has.
You can get a Jimmy G. level QB on the open market. I’d argue we already have one on the roster in Foles. A true game changer like Watson is one thing, but come on....
G played on a bad ankle, while Mitch got to play against the weakest part of the schedule.
When G played a full 16 in 2019, he stomped what Mitch did against weaklings in 2020. Career avgs tell the same story.
Now I'm squeamish about giving up much for G, but that's purely because he's missed a lot of 2/ 3.5 seasons as starters - not because there's no upgrade involved.
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I guess if you’re the 49ers you make that statement about keeping Garappolo in an effort to get a foolish GM to part with a draft pick to acquire him. I sure hope Pace isn’t that fool.
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Or Stafford was really their only realistic alternative. They don't want to stomach the Watson asking price and Ryan is likely around ATL at least one more year.
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I would imagine Pace says "Hold my beer" to that one.
This is the guy that signed Mike Glennon, drafted the one bust out of three major QBs (the other two being future HOF'ers) via trading up ONE SLOT with all 3 QBs still available, and said we need to add a QB every year and obviously hasn't done that.