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PostPosted: Sun Apr 29, 2018 8:08 am 
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The bottom line though is Ryan pace fooled both the 49ers and the teams trying to trade up with the 49ers to grab trubisky. By all accounts day of the draft, Kansas City was trying to trade up as well as Cleveland.

The people who say no one was trying to trade up are lying their asses off. Speaking of media here.

What ended up happening because the Bears and a very young general manager Hoodwinked a whole bunch of more veteran general managers, the immediately began the spin 2 the friends they have in the media.

And yes, some gms do have friends in the media who they leak things to. And the media are more than happy to push out articles so that way they can continue to get easy access and make their own jobs easier. It's not even true journalism but just the type of shady bullshit that happens.

So those GM's leaked to their media friends a bullshit story of what an idiot Ryan paces and because some of the media put that out there, it caught fire as the rest of the lazy media regurgitated it.

Meanwhile, the reason to leak the bullshit in the first place is they didn't want to have to answer to their owners the question of why a very young general manager just played them for idiots.

The key to knowing the truth of all of this is when one of the media got war room access to Lynch's first draft with the 49ers, they have him on record as saying he thought the Bears were trading up to get a linebacker. He had to be told that a trade up like that was likely for a quarterback. That rare nugget of Truth before the media spin began tells you the truth of what you needed to know. Combine that with the fact that Ryan Pace was actively negotiating with the Cleveland Browns at the same time to prevent them from trading up with the 49ers to grab a quarterback, and you have the total picture right there, before the media spin began to do damage on Ryan Pace in order to save their own skins.

What didn't help with this is that Ryan Pace got the Bears job over Chris Ballard who at least up until this draft has been a disaster for the Colts but has a Litany of friends in the media who are all but eager to cover for his ass. So is Ryan Pace picked up Matt Nagy as head coach and schooled him, they picked up on that old draft thread and tugged at it some more to cover for Chris Ballard.

The final nugget with regards to the shitball media is that when Jerry Angelo and Phil Emery War general managers with the Bears, there were people on staff who Phil Emery retained in the front offices who were informants for people like Mike Mulligan, Brad Biggs, and a lot of the older Bears beat reporters former beat reporters and media. Those people got easy stories and easy inside information. If you go back to the tenure of those general managers in wonder how teens were able to so easily jump in front of the Bears and grab a player who we all thought the Bears wanted, and how the beers would routinely get screwed out of those players, Leakey Halas Hall was a major reason.

That was free money for the media and they didn't give a shit that they were causing damage to the team because their lives is so-called journalists were made easier.

Ryan Pace comes along and cleans house. The Leaky people are gone. Ryan Pace runs the front office like the Patriots do. No information gets out.

So you have a bunch of Legacy fat cat former beat reporters who are bitching and moaning and hate Ryan pace for the Civil pedi reason that now they have to work for a living again rather than get fed easy stories.

If you look at the journalists in this town, it's no wonder why younger reporters on the beat like Adam Jahns hold a far more favorable opinion of Ryan pace than some of the Legacy morons like Brad Biggs, Mike Pompeii, and Mike Mulligan on the score.

Those old has beens have had their free ride cancelled. And they're bitter and crusty about it.

Now look at everything I just said in total. Now you know why teams are reluctant to trust the sports media. As fun as it is for us to talk sports and read about them, the business aspect of it is slimy, greasy, disgusting, and self-serving, and as far from real journalism as you could possibly get for many of the people in there doing whatever they have to in order to get a scoop. And they are more than willing to slander and burn anybody for a few extra clicks or a few extra headlines on the front of the newspaper...

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This is a good breakdown.

If the 49ers thought we were taking Solomon Thomas, and their lack of a QB, do you think they were planning on taking Mitch?


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PostPosted: Mon Apr 30, 2018 12:38 am 
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I'm not sure if anyone noticed but we didn't have a 3rd round pick in this draft because of this trade. The other teams who picked a QB didn't have a 1st round pick in this draft. Ergo, I could not give a fuck. Pace wanted his guy and paid very little relatively to get him.

Who knows what went on behind the scenes? If San Fran were pretending that there's a bidding war for their pick, Trubisky is your guy and you don't feel like you can compromise on another QB, you just pay the price and get him rather than calling their bluff. In this case, the price was very modest indeed.


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PostPosted: Tue Nov 27, 2018 5:19 pm 
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Starting to look a whole LOT like Pace knew exactly what he was doing moving up to pick Mitch. he was All the handwringing about missing out on Watson last year has been replaced with woes about Mahomes.

Mitch is leading the 8~3 Bears towards the ever elusive NFC North title.
So yeah.. after revisiting I'd say L. Holmes & the rest of the Monday morning GM's need to sit their asses down.

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PostPosted: Tue Nov 27, 2018 5:25 pm 
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This is interesting... let's assume Trubisky went #2 and instead we took Watson at #3. Also, hindsight is 20/20.

67 - Alvin Kamara (we still got Tarik Cohen in round 4)

111 - Eddie Jackson (whom we took at 112 anyway)


Yeah... this trade worked out well in our favor since it ensured Pace got the guy he wanted.

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PostPosted: Tue Nov 27, 2018 5:54 pm 
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Pagan wrote:
Starting to look a whole LOT like Pace knew exactly what he was doing moving up to pick Mitch. he was All the handwringing about missing out on Watson last year has been replaced with woes about Mahomes.

Mitch is leading the 8~3 Bears towards the ever elusive NFC North title.
So yeah.. after revisiting I'd say L. Holmes & the rest of the Monday morning GM's need to sit their asses down.


I hated the trade at the time and wow was I wrong. That's why Pace gets the big bucks.

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PostPosted: Fri Nov 30, 2018 6:52 am 
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It's an unanswerable question. Logically we can't know if Trubs would have been there at 3. Though I think he would have and do many. Plus I wanted Mahomes so I really didn't like the whole thing.

If you're blind bidding on a nice car and over pay it doesn't make the car nicer but it does ensure you get it.


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PostPosted: Sat Dec 15, 2018 1:07 am 
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Now we dance with the girl we brung...

Mitch..needs development true..upside..who knows..
With this Defense..he needs to good to very good..
I think he get there..
Mahomes yes..and his extreme talent and surrounded by better talent..

Our D may change all that..

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