malk wrote:Mahomes would need longer to sit than that, at least a full season.
You and I seem to be on the same page with Mahomes in all of your comments.
Mahomes plays really SMART and doesn't do dumb stuff very often. Sometimes he makes dumb plays (like throwing back over the middle late) and they work out anyway. Yes, he has mechanical issues for sure and he'll be best served by sitting for a year. But he has a really strong, accurate arm, throws well on the run and most importantly, he thinks well on his feet. You can't coach most of that. But mechanics can be fixed.
Mikefive's theory: The only time you KNOW that a sports team player, coach or management member is being 100% honest is when they're NOT reciting "the company line".
BamaBear09 wrote:He seems to have good placement on his deep throws, and watching him against Oklahoma (he threw it 88 times this game), he set his feet and ripped a couple of throws between defenders.
he had 88 pass attempts in 1 game?
damn .... so what were his final stats?
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BamaBear09 wrote:He seems to have good placement on his deep throws, and watching him against Oklahoma (he threw it 88 times this game), he set his feet and ripped a couple of throws between defenders.
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BamaBear09 wrote:He seems to have good placement on his deep throws, and watching him against Oklahoma (he threw it 88 times this game), he set his feet and ripped a couple of throws between defenders.
he had 88 pass attempts in 1 game?
damn .... so what were his final stats?
Against Oklahoma, he finished 52 of 88, 731 yards, 5 tds to 1 int and 12 carried for 85 yards and 2 tds
I'm still waiting to see the Iowa State game video to hit youtube.
BamaBear09 wrote:He seems to have good placement on his deep throws, and watching him against Oklahoma (he threw it 88 times this game), he set his feet and ripped a couple of throws between defenders.
BamaBear09 wrote:He seems to have good placement on his deep throws, and watching him against Oklahoma (he threw it 88 times this game), he set his feet and ripped a couple of throws between defenders.
After watching breakdown of his tape i say we go best cb or s at 3 grab him in 2nd. I think he can be real good as long as we stick with one system to learn.
BamaBear09 wrote:He seems to have good placement on his deep throws, and watching him against Oklahoma (he threw it 88 times this game), he set his feet and ripped a couple of throws between defenders.
They have their own formula for passer efficiency rate...hover over the rate at the top and it'll give you their formula
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If the Bears don't take Watson or Trubisky in R1, the only other QB I'd be ok with is Mahomes in R2.
I don't want anything to do with Kaaya or Kizer. And I don't think the Bears can afford to wait until the 3rd or 4th round to take someone like Nathan Peterman or Jerod Evans. (Although I like Evans a lot.)
wab wrote:If the Bears don't take Watson or Trubisky in R1, the only other QB I'd be ok with is Mahomes in R2.
I don't want anything to do with Kaaya or Kizer. And I don't think the Bears can afford to wait until the 3rd or 4th round to take someone like Nathan Peterman or Jerod Evans. (Although I like Evans a lot.)
G08 wrote:
I'm on board with this line of thinking.
What do you like better:
A) Best DB or trade down and take best WR or DB because we nailed FA/ Patrick Mahomes II
B) Deshaun Watson / Desmond King
I fixed it for you and will take A
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wab wrote:If the Bears don't take Watson or Trubisky in R1, the only other QB I'd be ok with is Mahomes in R2.
I don't want anything to do with Kaaya or Kizer. And I don't think the Bears can afford to wait until the 3rd or 4th round to take someone like Nathan Peterman or Jerod Evans. (Although I like Evans a lot.)
wab wrote:King is probably going to move to safety in the NFL. That's why he's dropped to the 30's.
That's how I'm seeing it as well... but I wouldn't even mind letting Fuller and King battle for CB-2 and the loser kick out to free safety (not my ideal scenario).
There will be a ton of CB talent available to us in round 2.
wab wrote:King is probably going to move to safety in the NFL. That's why he's dropped to the 30's.
That's how I'm seeing it as well... but I wouldn't even mind letting Fuller and King battle for CB-2 and the loser kick out to free safety (not my ideal scenario).
There will be a ton of CB talent available to us in round 2.
Gareon Conley is a guy I'm starting to fall in like with.
wab wrote:
Gareon Conley is a guy I'm starting to fall in like with.
Like your going to friend zone him? Like your going to tease him along, maybe 1st or 2nd base. Then your going to stop it and say your friendship is to important and never let him feel your pooter. All the while your spit roasted with his arch nemesis Latimoure and Hooker.
Am I the only one who sees terrible mechancis on Mahomes? He's effective using his baseball throwing style but NFL coaches might try to re-train his motion and that will delay his development.
crueltyabc wrote:Am I the only one who sees terrible mechancis on Mahomes? He's effective using his baseball throwing style but NFL coaches might try to re-train his motion and that will delay his development.
we won't know nothing till the combine. Supposedly every one of these QB's are working with guys to improve their mechanics and take snaps from under center as well as learn pro offense terminology so they can sound football smart in team meetings.
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BamaBear09 wrote:For those who claim Mahomes doesn't make progression reads
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Mahomes has a much bigger problem than playing in the air raid offense. He doesn't read the field well.
Just a tiny bit of support for your statements would make them infinitely more interesting. Not trying to snark, just want to see the reasoning behind the thoughts.
"I wouldn't take him for a conditional 7th. His next contract will pay him more than he could possibly contribute.".
BamaBear09 wrote:For those who claim Mahomes doesn't make progression reads
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Mahomes has a much bigger problem than playing in the air raid offense. He doesn't read the field well.
Just a tiny bit of support for your statements would make them infinitely more interesting. Not trying to snark, just want to see the reasoning behind the thoughts.
BamaBear09 wrote:For those who claim Mahomes doesn't make progression reads
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Mahomes has a much bigger problem than playing in the air raid offense. He doesn't read the field well.
Except for him explaining in the video how he read the field and what he would look for... but sure, you said he doesn't read the field well, so he must not.
BamaBear09 wrote:For those who claim Mahomes doesn't make progression reads
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Mahomes has a much bigger problem than playing in the air raid offense. He doesn't read the field well.
Except for him explaining in the video how he read the field and what he would look for... but sure, you said he doesn't read the field well, so he must not.
It's true, and that's a HUGE problem to have going into the NFL.
BamaBear09 wrote:For those who claim Mahomes doesn't make progression reads
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Mahomes has a much bigger problem than playing in the air raid offense. He doesn't read the field well.
Except for him explaining in the video how he read the field and what he would look for... but sure, you said he doesn't read the field well, so he must not.
It's true, and that's a HUGE problem to have going into the NFL.
Totally explains your opinion... or as I said above "cause"
who let the stink into the Mahomes thread...?
Take that where it belongs, back over to the Kizer thread!
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