QB Prospect Discussion: Patrick Mahomes II, Texas Tech

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Re: QB Prospect Discussion: Patrick Mahomes II, Texas Tech

Sat Apr 01, 2017 12:28 pm

DaSuperfan wrote:
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DaSuperfan wrote:FYI, I don't care if Mahomes appears like he'd be a reach at 3. If the Bears have a high grade on him and can't trade down a few spots. I wouldn't risk it. Guys like Aaron Rodgers in 2005 was thought of as a reach in the top 5 and he turned out fine. Not saying Mahomes is Rodgers, just saying if the Bears have a high mark on him - take your guy!
I'm glad you're not the Bears GM.
Okay wise guy, what's your plan for QB? Propose a better solution at QB.
oh god you dont know what you're asking
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Re: QB Prospect Discussion: Patrick Mahomes II, Texas Tech

Sat Apr 01, 2017 12:38 pm

G08 wrote:There's a lot of talk that Mahomes is going top 12.

We'll see...
He had a very solid pro day. I'm sure he turned a lot of heads and rearranged more than a few boards. I think Mahomes would be the perfect QB for the bears given their current QB situation. I just can't see Pace being that high on him. I think they will go complete opposite of a Cutler type QB. Every QB Pace has been reported targeting (Glennon and Mariota) as the bears GM screams Kaaya IMO.
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QB Prospect Discussion: Patrick Mahomes II, Texas Tech

Sun Apr 02, 2017 7:43 am

Adipost wrote:
DaSuperfan wrote:FYI, I don't care if Mahomes appears like he'd be a reach at 3. If the Bears have a high grade on him and can't trade down a few spots. I wouldn't risk it. Guys like Aaron Rodgers in 2005 was thought of as a reach in the top 5 and he turned out fine. Not saying Mahomes is Rodgers, just saying if the Bears have a high mark on him - take your guy!
I'm glad you're not the Bears GM.
And we're all glad you aren't either or we'd have Kizer, Mixon and prob Kaaya on the team and be ensured losing for the remainder of your tenure...
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Re: QB Prospect Discussion: Patrick Mahomes II, Texas Tech

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man look at that second throw where he takes the head shot. it's 50 yards and it's just an effortless flick.
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Re: QB Prospect Discussion: Patrick Mahomes II, Texas Tech

Sun Apr 02, 2017 11:11 am

First time I've fallen in love with a QB prospect. Our interior line would keep him clean enough too.

I'm going to be gutted.
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Mon Apr 03, 2017 1:45 am

Patrick Mahomes..I think he looks the goods. Maybe too high at 3 but who else do we build around..?
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Mon Apr 03, 2017 11:31 am

BamaBear09 wrote: And we're all glad you aren't either or we'd have Kizer, Mixon and prob Kaaya on the team
Not at 3, but I think Kaaya is a very likely option.
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Tue Apr 04, 2017 8:23 am

Another interesting write up on Mahomes from Mark Schofield

http://insidethepylon.com/pylon-u/teams ... ahomes-ii/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
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Sat Apr 08, 2017 7:49 pm

Adipost wrote:Click here to snap back to reality.

presnapreads.com/2017/04/02/patrick-mahomes-and-the-allure-of-upside/
Snap back to reality... oh no, someone on the internet disagrees with me, guess that makes everything I thought wrong... Nah, I'm good, I'll trust what I saw on tape...
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Adipost wrote:Click here to snap back to reality.

presnapreads.com/2017/04/02/patrick-mahomes-and-the-allure-of-upside/
Lol just looked into this guy and you wouldn't like what he had to say about Fournette lol thinks he is pretty much LeGarrett Blount lol, didn't you say Fournette is the greatest back you have seen in years lol...
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Re: QB Prospect Discussion: Patrick Mahomes II, Texas Tech

Sat Apr 08, 2017 8:09 pm

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Adipost wrote:Click here to snap back to reality.

presnapreads.com/2017/04/02/patrick-mahomes-and-the-allure-of-upside/
Snap back to reality... oh no, someone on the internet disagrees with me, guess that makes everything I thought wrong... Nah, I'm good, I'll trust what I saw on tape...
It's a funny article, the reference to "numerical representation" when he's just pulling percentages out of his arse (well I'm guessing, if he'd run the plays it'd both take ages and would likely not be a nice round number). Also mentions that he regularly got clean pockets when I understand his line was pretty poor.

Then there's the play against West Virginia that looked more like a half throw away with all the receivers covered.

I think the writer just doesn't like prospects without really clean mechanics which is fair enough but I'm not seeing a great deal else of substance in there. Sure Mahomes might not make it, being a QB is hard, but I don't see any massive red flags that mean it's a terribly low percentage chance.

I think teams like Mahomes not because of his upside but because of his ability. He needs to learn an NFL offence but he doesn't need a complete overhaul of his mechanics but rather a scheme that will compensate for the issues they create (and maximise the opportunities).
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Re: QB Prospect Discussion: Patrick Mahomes II, Texas Tech

Sun Apr 09, 2017 3:22 pm

malk wrote:
BamaBear09 wrote:
Adipost wrote:Click here to snap back to reality.

presnapreads.com/2017/04/02/patrick-mahomes-and-the-allure-of-upside/
Snap back to reality... oh no, someone on the internet disagrees with me, guess that makes everything I thought wrong... Nah, I'm good, I'll trust what I saw on tape...
It's a funny article, the reference to "numerical representation" when he's just pulling percentages out of his arse (well I'm guessing, if he'd run the plays it'd both take ages and would likely not be a nice round number). Also mentions that he regularly got clean pockets when I understand his line was pretty poor.

Then there's the play against West Virginia that looked more like a half throw away with all the receivers covered.

I think the writer just doesn't like prospects without really clean mechanics which is fair enough but I'm not seeing a great deal else of substance in there. Sure Mahomes might not make it, being a QB is hard, but I don't see any massive red flags that mean it's a terribly low percentage chance.

I think teams like Mahomes not because of his upside but because of his ability. He needs to learn an NFL offence but he doesn't need a complete overhaul of his mechanics but rather a scheme that will compensate for the issues they create (and maximise the opportunities).
What it shows is that Mahomes is a developmental QB needing years of work to make it in the NFL. He may become a great QB, but he's not the type of prospect that goes in the first round, let alone the #3 pick in the draft.
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Sun Apr 09, 2017 4:29 pm

Adipost wrote:
malk wrote:
BamaBear09 wrote:
Adipost wrote:Click here to snap back to reality.

presnapreads.com/2017/04/02/patrick-mahomes-and-the-allure-of-upside/
Snap back to reality... oh no, someone on the internet disagrees with me, guess that makes everything I thought wrong... Nah, I'm good, I'll trust what I saw on tape...
It's a funny article, the reference to "numerical representation" when he's just pulling percentages out of his arse (well I'm guessing, if he'd run the plays it'd both take ages and would likely not be a nice round number). Also mentions that he regularly got clean pockets when I understand his line was pretty poor.

Then there's the play against West Virginia that looked more like a half throw away with all the receivers covered.

I think the writer just doesn't like prospects without really clean mechanics which is fair enough but I'm not seeing a great deal else of substance in there. Sure Mahomes might not make it, being a QB is hard, but I don't see any massive red flags that mean it's a terribly low percentage chance.

I think teams like Mahomes not because of his upside but because of his ability. He needs to learn an NFL offence but he doesn't need a complete overhaul of his mechanics but rather a scheme that will compensate for the issues they create (and maximise the opportunities).
What it shows is that Mahomes is a developmental QB needing years of work to make it in the NFL. He may become a great QB, but he's not the type of prospect that goes in the first round, let alone the #3 pick in the draft.
Blah blah blah... Mahomes needs all this work because some sports blogger said so.... shut it down guys, "Cian Fahey" said Mahomes needs a ton of work and won't ever draft him... zzzzzzzzzzzzz your lazy takes are making me sleepy...
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Re: QB Prospect Discussion: Patrick Mahomes II, Texas Tech

Sun Apr 09, 2017 8:43 pm

He does need work. That's not really up for debate. That skill set though...

Its like a super model who can't walk in heels. Sure walking in heels is a requirement, but that can be worked on, as long as she has everything else going on.


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Tue Apr 18, 2017 9:58 am

Smokescreen or real interest? I've seen now that the Bears visited Mahommes for a private workout and shortly after brought him into Halas Hall.
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Tue Apr 18, 2017 10:40 am

I think it's neither. It's just due diligence.
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If this is true......

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For all those who want to question his understanding or desire to play within limitations.

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Mon Apr 24, 2017 12:55 pm

If we drafted him I'm pretty sure I will (attempt to) do a backflip.
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Sat Aug 12, 2017 6:10 pm

Mahomes looked pretty good in his debut last night. Not Trubisky good but good. What's missing from the link is his first pass. 35 yards bomb over a defender, hitting his wr in stride, called back for a hold. I watched some of his reps and he looked good but the chiefs were conservative with him running it on a lot of 3rd downs.

After the first preseason Trubiski is the winner the other 3 though didn't slouch.

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Re: QB Prospect Discussion: Patrick Mahomes II, Texas Tech

Sat Aug 12, 2017 7:42 pm

yeah, not horrible. to me he definitely looks the rawest of the four out there. he landed in a such a good spot for him though, i really hope he tears it up.
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Sat Aug 12, 2017 8:42 pm

I agree but I thought the play calling didn't do him any favors. Clearly the rawest.
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Sun Aug 13, 2017 8:18 am

As of week 1, his footwork still really sucks
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