QB Prospect Discussion: Mitchy Mitchy Mitchyy Trubisky, UNC

malk · Fri Nov 25, 2016 7:42 pm

Alex Smith and Trent Green huh...

G08 · Fri Nov 25, 2016 9:12 pm

I don't get the Trent Green comp at all. I see Alex Smith/Tony Romo.

malk · Sun Nov 27, 2016 9:14 am

Alex Smith and Tony Romo are very different players though?

G08 · Sun Nov 27, 2016 10:03 pm

malk wrote:Alex Smith and Tony Romo are very different players though?

They are, I think his throwing motion is very similar to Romo. His athleticism resembles Alex Smith... it's a mix and match from each player.

mmmc_35 · Mon Nov 28, 2016 10:33 am

G08 wrote:
malk wrote:Alex Smith and Tony Romo are very different players though?
They are, I think his throwing motion is very similar to Romo. His athleticism resembles Alex Smith... it's a mix and match from each player.

+1. Also Romo is a little happy footed in the pocket where as Smith has less movement. Trubisky is similar to Smith in that aspect. Romo is more apt to drive down field then Smith. Trubisky seems more like Romo there.

His team is not very good. There is a concern about experience. I have seen some ball placement issues. That said he is the a really good prospect. High ceiling guy, with a decent floor.

G08 · Wed Dec 21, 2016 11:07 am

Nice read on my early guy, Mitch Trubisky:

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southdakbearfan · Wed Dec 28, 2016 8:56 pm

The more I look at this guy, the more I think he is the guy, if he comes out.

mmmc_35 · Wed Dec 28, 2016 9:32 pm

He checks a lot of boxes in eyes. He doesn't have experience, but there are tools to work with. The interviews will be very important for him. He may not have that special gene that the Rogers, Brady, Montana etc have. But that could develop and he could be very good.

The article G08 posted has me think about the Myers-Briggs test conversation we had last year. He sounds introverted which might not line up with the estj type that was suspected to be the best qb type.

Moriarty · Wed Dec 28, 2016 11:42 pm

For NFL teams, there’s a significant challenge in evaluating one-year starters. On one hand, there’s Auburn’s Cam Newton in 2010. On the other, consider Akili Smith. A junior college transfer, Smith had 11 spectacular starts at Oregon and was drafted No. 3 overall by the Bengals in 1999. He made 17 career starts and posted a 52.8 passer rating.

I've always had the impression that 1 yr starters had bad track records (maybe because Akili Smith sticks in my head so much).

If somebody with time on their hands wants to investigate, I'd be interested in the results.

I think maybe
Less than 1.5 yrs starting
Drafted in R1 or 2
1993-2012 (20 yrs, leaving at least 5 yrs after to evaluate)

would be a good sample

G08 · Thu Dec 29, 2016 10:18 am

I like the kid, just not at #3 overall.

Also, he might have Trump-hands.

G08 · Fri Dec 30, 2016 11:37 am

Trubisky and UNC play their bowl game today (12/30/16) at 1:00pm on CBS

RING4CHI · Fri Dec 30, 2016 2:23 pm

Man he's mobile when things break down.

If the Bears go QB early, this is the guy I want. Not to mention the last time a Chicago team took a kid from North Carolina third overall, it worked out pretty well.

G08 · Fri Dec 30, 2016 2:30 pm

That drive was awesome... elusiveness in the pocket, quickness/speed on the keeper, and a freaking dart to Switzer for the TD.

I'm falling in love again...

If the Bears go QB early, this is the guy I want. Not to mention the last time a Chicago team took a kid from North Carolina third overall, it worked out pretty well.

Oh my God... I literally was thinking the same thing about the last time Chicago had the #3 pick in the draft... I didn't even put the UNC connection together!

G08 · Fri Dec 30, 2016 5:14 pm

Dude's gotten fooled by pre-snap disguises twice now... one for a pick-6.

bearsfaninaz · Fri Dec 30, 2016 5:33 pm

Biggest question will be can he sit on bench and learn for a season? He has the physical skills can he learn the mental part of the game?

G08 · Fri Dec 30, 2016 5:37 pm

bearsfaninaz wrote:Biggest question will be can he sit on bench and learn for a season? He has the physical skills can he learn the mental part of the game?

I'm sure he could, he'll be a fine player... but God Damnit I want a home run at #4.

VA_Mountain_Bear · Tue Jan 03, 2017 2:30 pm

wab wrote:I really don't think Rudolph will make it to the 2nd.

But if he does, and we don't go QB in the first, we'd be in great position to snag him in the 2nd.

G08 · Tue Jan 03, 2017 2:43 pm

VA_Mountain_Bear wrote:
wab wrote:I really don't think Rudolph will make it to the 2nd.
But if he does, and we don't go QB in the first, we'd be in great position to snag him in the 2nd.

Rudolph went back to OSU.

Kaaya might be sitting there...

DaSuperfan · Tue Jan 03, 2017 10:03 pm

Wouldn't mind coming out of this draft with either Trubisky or Mahomes. I am a little bit weary of the Texas Tech system and how it hasn't fared too well for their QB's in the pros. But he's an exciting young QB that will make the Bears worth watching.

Tue Jan 03, 2017 10:13 pm

I guess I'm not seeing whatever it is in Mahones that everyone else is. I see an undisciplined player that wings it all over the field with shitty mechanics.

G08 · Tue Jan 03, 2017 10:17 pm

wab wrote:I guess I'm not seeing whatever it is in Mahones that everyone else is. I see an undisciplined player that wings it all over the field with shitty mechanics.

For me it's the arm strength and athleticism. He's got a rocket for an arm but still has the ability to throw with touch 40-50 yards downfield.

His mechanics are shit and need to be cleaned up, but you can do that much easier than you can find someone with his arm and overall athleticism.

Tue Jan 03, 2017 10:22 pm

Sooooo. He's Kyle Boller?

DaSuperfan · Tue Jan 03, 2017 10:33 pm

wab wrote:I guess I'm not seeing whatever it is in Mahones that everyone else is. I see an undisciplined player that wings it all over the field with shitty mechanics.

It's almost like controlled chaos when I watch him. I think he can be coached out of some those habits though.

G08 · Tue Jan 03, 2017 11:42 pm

wab wrote:Sooooo. He's Kyle Boller?

No, Boller was just terrible.

Colin Kaepernick with better touch on his throws is how I'd describe him I guess.

alexwilkins · Wed Jan 04, 2017 12:45 am

He reminds me of Brady Quinn. In a not very good way. No progression. Thick chest, limiting as a passer.

Wed Jan 04, 2017 8:15 am

G08 wrote:
wab wrote:Sooooo. He's Kyle Boller?
No, Boller was just terrible.

Colin Kaepernick with better touch on his throws is how I'd describe him I guess.

I still don't know man. I know you love the guy, but I'm struggling seeing it.

BamaBear09 · Wed Jan 04, 2017 9:53 am

wab wrote:
G08 wrote:
wab wrote:Sooooo. He's Kyle Boller?
No, Boller was just terrible.

Colin Kaepernick with better touch on his throws is how I'd describe him I guess.
I still don't know man. I know you love the guy, but I'm struggling seeing it.

The Boller comparison is a bit off, that guy only had one season where he had a +50% completion rate, he just had a cannon. Still not sure what NFL execs saw in his game that made them think he would be effective in the NFL... hurting so bad for QBs that a guy who can throw it 60 yards from his knees gets a first round rating... his freshman year he had sub 40% completion percentage....

G08 · Wed Jan 04, 2017 9:59 am

wab wrote:
G08 wrote:
wab wrote:Sooooo. He's Kyle Boller?
No, Boller was just terrible.

Colin Kaepernick with better touch on his throws is how I'd describe him I guess.
I still don't know man. I know you love the guy, but I'm struggling seeing it.

Upside. I see a lot of upside and playmaking ability.

G08 · Wed Jan 04, 2017 9:59 am

alexwilkins wrote:He reminds me of Brady Quinn. In a not very good way. No progression. Thick chest, limiting as a passer.

I'm sorry but this is a terrible comp.

Wed Jan 04, 2017 10:01 am

Brady wasn't nearly as talented as Trubisky.