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Intriguing dude, I see some Alex Smith and some Tony Romo in his game... 2nd rounder right now, IMO, but if he keeps playing well I can see him sneak into the middle of the first round.
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So after watching the Va Tech I was uncertain what you were seeing. He floated a lot of passes, locked on to his first read. Sense I watched highlight videos of Delaware, Pit, and full game of Florida St. I get it now.

Negatives
- He isn't asked to go through progressions.
- sails a lot of passes high
- lofts a lot of deep passes. While this can give WR the ability to adjust and shield defenders he puts to much on it making wr slow down to much.
- as above inconsistent deep pass placement

Positives

- Has a good compact throwing motion like Tony Romo. 3/4 slot delivery, and can flick it out there.
- Clearly has that confidence / control of the team and scheme
- throws a really catchable ball
-physical ability is there from stature to athleticism
- appears to make those initial defensive reads at the los.

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It's impossible to watch North Carolina junior Mitch Trubisky move around in the pocket and make gunslinger-type throws and not think you're seeing a smaller Carson Wentz. Or at least that's what I thought after reviewing three 2016 games and then a mashup of his 2015 snaps
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I'd be surprised if he comes out this year.

Drafting a QB who's only started 1 year up high is a bad idea.
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Moriarty wrote:I'd be surprised if he comes out this year.

Drafting a QB who's only started 1 year up high is a bad idea.
Both good points.

But this is a much, much, much better year for a QB to come out than 2018. And who knows about injuries?
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Moriarty wrote:I'd be surprised if he comes out this year.

Drafting a QB who's only started 1 year up high is a bad idea.
I think he will get a first round grade and decide to declare; this is a poor year for QBs and he'll get taken, IMO, around 12-22.
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Man this guy is pretty good. It would be best for him to go back for another year, but why would he with this class.
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mmmc_35 wrote:Man this guy is pretty good. It would be best for him to go back for another year, but why would he with this class.
I'd take him with our first pick if we were outside the top 10, I just worry he's going to skyrocket during the draft process.

Mason Rudolph in round 2 is intriguing.
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I really like Rudolph. He has the makings of a guy who will be a "late riser".
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I really don't think Rudolph will make it to the 2nd.
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wab wrote:I really don't think Rudolph will make it to the 2nd.
Is he already in the first round talk?
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I think Rudolph has his warts but if these dudes all come out, I'd have to think at least one of them falls to round 2:

Trubisky (my favorite, I think he goes top 10 before it's all said and done)

Kizer (has the size and arm talent scouts will drool over, hasn't played well this season)

Watson (great performances on the big stage, big arm, athletic, smaller in stature, mediocre play this season, fairly simple scheme -- can he read defenses at an NFL level consistently?)

Rudolph (impressive size/strength, floats his deep ball at times, inaccurate and misses high fairly often, nice upside)

Kaaya (mediocre arm strength, unimpressive athleticism, developing bad habits behind an awful line)
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Trubisky had 2 time outs in his pocket, 1:51 on the clock, down by 1 with the ball at his 4 yard line. Gets one first down and then throws a pick.

That's called shitting the bed.
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Sounds like the Cleveland front office has already given on this season.

They are eyeing UNC QB Mitch Trubisky.

http://www.dawgsbynature.com/2016/11/20 ... h-trubisky


"They love him," a top evaluator from another NFL club said. "Trust me, they love him."
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More chance of Allen then!
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Rumors swirling Mitch Trubisky is Bears guy. John Fox making 'All I need is a QB' pitch to ownership clearly. Throwing Cutler under the bus.
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G08 wrote:NFL Draft Bites

Rumors swirling Mitch Trubisky is Bears guy. John Fox making 'All I need is a QB' pitch to ownership clearly. Throwing Cutler under the bus.
No surprise. Cutler getting blame for an injury plagued & mismanaged season while Fox and co. sail on.

I wish they would get rid of all of them. Fox, Cutler, etc. Just get rid of all of these motherfuckers. Keep Fangio, most of the defense, but anyone that's got question marks, dump their asses.

I hate this fucking team.
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G08 wrote:
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Rumors swirling Mitch Trubisky is Bears guy. John Fox making 'All I need is a QB' pitch to ownership clearly. Throwing Cutler under the bus.
Mountain of salt aside, that doesn't sound like Fox so would be a big red flag for me.

I think I'm done with him...
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G08 wrote:NFL Draft Bites

Rumors swirling Mitch Trubisky is Bears guy. John Fox making 'All I need is a QB' pitch to ownership clearly. Throwing Cutler under the bus.
No surprise. Cutler getting blame for an injury plagued & mismanaged season while Fox and co. sail on.

I wish they would get rid of all of them. Fox, Cutler, etc. Just get rid of all of these motherfuckers. Keep Fangio, most of the defense, but anyone that's got question marks, dump their asses.

I hate this fucking team.
Completely agree.

If they keep Fox, next year we are still being drug down with Loggains or we are on to yet another new OC. And we are going to trust them with our new franchise (hopefully) QB? Any way you slice it, keeping Fox beyond this year is just setting us back. The Fox regime has been a disaster, except for Fangio. We know how his book is going to end and that's why the Bears should send him out to pasture at seasons end.
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Just don't get your hopes up man. As of right now he won't make it, to four.
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There will be a lot of back-and-forth / up-and-down talk as we move into the off-season, I've read that Cleveland loves him but I just don't think this kid is worth the #1 overall pick.

Who knows... right now he's my favorite prospect for the Bears, the Cutler days are ovah.
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I worry about him having to work through progressions but the stats and the arm are lovely. Great zip on his intermediate balls. Anyone know what happened in the Virginia Tech game?

Weirdly the three I like, him, Mahomes and Rudolph all had inaccurate games this week...

EDIT: Can answer that myself. Awful conditions, no protection and lots of drops. Poor decision on his first interception and a few other bad ones but they were mostly after his offence was forced to be one dimensional without protection. Not sure I'd put all of it on him.
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Heck looking pretty good in those highlights
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www.nfl.com/draft/history/fulldraft?type=position

You know I originally agree with the thought he shouldn't be the first overall. However looking back at a few drafts why not?
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mmmc_35 wrote:www.nfl.com/draft/history/fulldraft?type=position

You know I originally agree with the thought he shouldn't be the first overall. However looking back at a few drafts why not?
Yeah that's a good point, man. He's from Ohio and a die hard Cleveland Browns fan... I'd have to think with how much that organization apparently loves him, this will be the icing on the cake to sell to their fan base.

If we can lock up the #2 overall pick... hello Myles Garrett!!!
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mmmc_35 wrote:www.nfl.com/draft/history/fulldraft?type=position

You know I originally agree with the thought he shouldn't be the first overall. However looking back at a few drafts why not?
Yeah that's a good point, man. He's from Ohio and a die hard Cleveland Browns fan... I'd have to think with how much that organization apparently loves him, this will be the icing on the cake to sell to their fan base.

If we can lock up the #2 overall pick... hello Myles Garrett!!!
I just think they'll be leery of a #1 overall QB again. There will be a lot of pressure though.

But McPhee, Floyd and Garrett, eye watering!
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Trubisky and his Tar Heels will be playing on ESPN in about 10 minutes if anyone else has the day off!
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NFL Executive on Mitch Trubisky:
North Carolina quarterback Mitch Trubisky is one of the 2016 season's biggest risers. He's gone from relative unknown to being widely considered as one of the top prospects at his position.

Just how high has his ascent taken him? One NFC executive says he's a top-10 pick.

"Accurate, good vision, athletic, tough ... I think he's a top-10 pick," the exec told MMQB.

Another NFC exec agreed with that take, telling MMQB that the only concerns about Trubisky are related to questions about his experience (only one season as a starter) and leadership (he's quieter than some scouts would like, per the report).

He's certainly caught the eye of NFL.com analysts and former scouts Bucky Brooks and Daniel Jeremiah. Brooks compared him to Chiefs QB Alex Smith last month, and Jeremiah likened him to former Kansas City QB Trent Green.

Trubisky, a junior whose Tar Heels are hosting North Carolina State on Friday, would be available in the 2017 NFL Draft if he applies for and is granted early eligibility. Underclassmen like Trubisky have until a Jan. 16 deadline to apply for early eligibility.

While Trubisky has sparked intrigue within the NFL scouting community, there's long been talk that the 2017 draft, no matter which underclassmen are granted early entry, will be without a franchise QB. Jeremiah wrote last week that "he won't be surprised to see some teams elevate quarterbacks on their draft board because of a severe need at the position."

Jeremiah includes six NFL teams on his list of clubs that could find themselves in that position when the 2017 draft gets underway on April 27 in Philadelphia.
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