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PostPosted: Thu Jan 18, 2018 2:29 pm 
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If the Bears go WR with pick 8 I prefer Cortand Sutton over Christian Kirk. I know there are some good sub 6 foot WR in the league, Antonio Brown just one example. Still, I prefer big WRs in the end zone. Cortland Sutton fits that bill.

Now that Nagy has come in and intends to run more spread I’ve changed my preference to Christian Kirk. Speed fits the new system more than a big guy with a big wingspan who can fight CBs for the ball. We’ll still have Shaheen close in in a crowded end zone.


Kirk is my guy in R2. But doubt he gets that far. If we trade with Buffalo and get their 21-22 picks, I'd go for Landry and Kirk back to back.

I agree. To be honest, barring an amazing combine and private workout I could not justify picking him at eight either. Even Ridley may be a stretch there too.

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PostPosted: Thu Jan 18, 2018 6:29 pm 
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I'll be breathing into the brown paper bag again if we take Ridley at #8. I'm just not ready for another WR in the first round. Why Pace would want to emulate Matt Millen is beyond me.

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PostPosted: Thu Jan 18, 2018 6:52 pm 
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Trade down with the Bills and give me Landry and Kirk.


I don't see it happening but I think there are pretty good odds that the Bills don't find a trade partner before our pick and there's a QB they like remaining when it comes around. I can't find a player that I like enough in our situation at #8 so that's my hope beyond hope right now.

For the record I see no way that Pace pulls the trigger on that trade.


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Trade down with the Bills and give me Landry and Kirk.


I don't see it happening but I think there are pretty good odds that the Bills don't find a trade partner before our pick and there's a QB they like remaining when it comes around. I can't find a player that I like enough in our situation at #8 so that's my hope beyond hope right now.

For the record I see no way that Pace pulls the trigger on that trade.


I just don't love anyone at 8 and I'm of the opinion that you don't draft guards or right tackles with a top 8 pick. I guess we could take a corner there.

Maybe we "reach" for a pass rusher (doubt Chubb will be there) at #8 and then take the best WR in round 2? Grab a RT in round 4?

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PostPosted: Thu Jan 18, 2018 7:33 pm 
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Strictly using Kiper's board and assuming I had to hold onto the #8 pick, I would take Roquan Smith and be totally happy with that.

If I could trade with Buffalo, then its Landry and Tarvarus Jackson.

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If the Kiper draft fell that way I'd go Landry straight up at 8. Look up his 2016 tape when he was healthy. He was a dominant edge rusher.

Right now, Landry is my top guy for the Bears in R1.

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Yogabba mentioned this in another thread, but he brought up a good point about what trends we've seen in Ryan Pace's drafts.

We've no indication of what he'll do with something that's not a top 10 pick, but his three Day 1 selections have all had elite traits for their position. While I don't anticipate it in 2018, both 2016 (Leonard Floyd) and 2017 (Mitchell Trubisky) also established that he'll move up in the draft to get the guy he wants.

Day 2 has usually been reserved for linemen (Eddie Goldman and Hroniss Grasu in 2016, Cody Whitehair and Jonathan Bullard in 2017). 2018 saw him draft Adam Shaheen, another elite traits guy; whether that's a sign of Day 2 things to come or not remains to be seen.

Day 3 appears to be Pace's day for defensive backs: Adrian Amos (2016), Deon Bush/Deiondre' Hall/DeAndre Houston-Carson (2017), and Eddie Jackson (2018). This is clearly a trend in my mind. An important secondary trend to note here is that each of his defensive back draftees has measured 6'0" or taller. Likewise, Day 3 is also when he takes running backs: Jeremy Langford (2015), Jordan Howard (2016), and Tarik Cohen (2017). There's no apparent overriding commonality there, although each did have a broad jump measurement of 118 inches (9'10"), which is one of the tests used to measure explosiveness. That's worth watching. I think it's a safe conclusion to expect the Bears to add a DB and RB in rounds 4-7.

Pace's late selections (Tayo Fabuluje in 2015, Daniel Braverman in 2016, and probably Jordan Morgan in 2017) appear to be trying to find lightning in a bottle. Fabuluje had elite size, if not much else. Braverman had a really good 3-cone time and displayed excellent hands in college, though athletically he showed little promise otherwise. And Morgan, from a rather shallow draft, was a Division II player whom they believe has promise — I don't share their optimism, but I'll be glad to eat crow about that if he succeeds.

FWIW, when evaluating his draft record, I've said before that I consider most drafts to be between 150-175 players deep, give or take, and that anything beyond that point is a lottery ticket. So my evaluations are scored taking that into account.

2015: 5 selections through 5 rounds, .333 success rate (2/5) — Goldman, Amos
2016: 7 selections through 5 rounds, .571 success rate (4/7) — Floyd, Whitehair, Kwiatkoski, Howard; jury out on Bullard and Hall
2017: 5 selections through 5 rounds, .600 success rate (3/5) — Trubisky, Jackson, Cohen; jury still out on Shaheen and Morgan

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Looks like you can cross the top WRs off the list in R1-2 now with the signing of ARob and maybe Taylor Gabriel?

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Looks like you can cross the top WRs off the list in R1-2 now with the signing of ARob and maybe Taylor Gabriel?


Yeah, pretty much think their aggressiveness in FA shows that they are not overwhelmed over any of the prospects at 8 in the WR department.

The more this FA period shakes out, barring any trades for players or draft picks I think we can narrow down to 3 positions on day one. OL, LB, and CB.

Feel that we will be getting a OL player in the first furthering their commitment to set Trubisky up for success.

After securing OL, they will have addressed every position offensively of need. They will then add to position of need on defense. Think this will be BPA out of CB or LB with second.


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