Is Mike Gisecki the next Travis Kelce?

[Hematite]

I know Chicago just drafted Shaheen, but Gisecki has to be on Nagy's radar with that athleticism and speed. 6' 5" and a 41 inch vertical......He was the New Jersey state slam dunk winner in high school.

40 Yard Dash
4.54

Bench Press
22.0

Vertical Jump
41.5

3 Cone Drill
6.76

If Fuller and Prince return and Pace signs Watkins or Robinson is it worth using a 2nd round pick on this guy?

[Mikefive]

He's not a TE. He's a WR. TEs are expected to be able to block someone.

[Hematite]

I agree his blocking is weak. But this guy is a mismatch made in heaven.

[Middleguard]

Were any of the TEs invited to the combine good blockers in college? Clearly, none of them are built like linemen.

[Aside] Back in the day, split ends (X) were expected to block at least as much as receive, and for tight ends a reception was almost as unlikely as a tackle-eligible reception is today. I think "chip" is as much as can be expected for a TE nowdays.

[IotaNet]

Were any of the TEs invited to the combine good blockers in college? Clearly, none of them are built like linemen.

[Aside] Back in the day, split ends (X) were expected to block at least as much as receive, and for tight ends a reception was almost as unlikely as a tackle-eligible reception is today. I think "chip" is as much as can be expected for a TE nowdays.

I tend to agree. Some of these 6’5” pass catchers are more like tall, thick wideouts than Mike Ditka or even Ozzie Newsome.

[southdakbearfan]

It's not like it's something they can't learn or grow into. Heck Mercedes Lewis stunk as a blocker and now he is one of the best at the end of his career.

[wab]

It's not like it's something they can't learn or grow into. Heck Mercedes Lewis stunk as a blocker and now he is one of the best at the end of his career.

Yeah, but that usually happens (like with Lewis) when you get old and can't run any more.

[Hematite]

Were any of the TEs invited to the combine good blockers in college? Clearly, none of them are built like linemen.

[Aside] Back in the day, split ends (X) were expected to block at least as much as receive, and for tight ends a reception was almost as unlikely as a tackle-eligible reception is today. I think "chip" is as much as can be expected for a TE nowdays.

I tend to agree. Some of these 6’5” pass catchers are more like tall, thick wideouts than Mike Ditka or even Ozzie Newsome.

And then the question becomes, how do you stop him. To big for most CB's, and to fast for most LB's. The kid is an athletic freak. I'd really consider him at the bottom of the 2nd or early 3rd if that somehow became an option.

[IotaNet]

... And then the question becomes, how do you stop him. To big for most CB's, and to fast for most LB's. The kid is an athletic freak. I'd really consider him at the bottom of the 2nd or early 3rd if that somehow became an option.

Hmmm ... so then he and Shaeen become our version of Sampson/Olajuwan?

I can think of worse outcomes.

[Mikefive]

Were any of the TEs invited to the combine good blockers in college? Clearly, none of them are built like linemen.

You need to watch his tape. There's a clear difference between "not good" and almost entirely ineffective, even against guys smaller than he is.

That's not to say he won't be a desirable NFL player. But you have to be realistic and call him what he is... a 250# WR. He's not a TE.

[Mikefive]

... And then the question becomes, how do you stop him. To big for most CB's, and to fast for most LB's. The kid is an athletic freak. I'd really consider him at the bottom of the 2nd or early 3rd if that somehow became an option.

Hmmm ... so then he and Shaeen become our version of Sampson/Olajuwan?

I can think of worse outcomes.

Great reference.

But it shows your age. I wonder how many folks on here had to look that one up.

[Hiphopopotamos]

... And then the question becomes, how do you stop him. To big for most CB's, and to fast for most LB's. The kid is an athletic freak. I'd really consider him at the bottom of the 2nd or early 3rd if that somehow became an option.

Hmmm ... so then he and Shaeen become our version of Sampson/Olajuwan?

I can think of worse outcomes.

Great reference.

But it shows your age. I wonder how many folks on here had to look that one up.

I'm old enough to know that ultimately that experiment didn't work out and Houston had to trade Sampson away after 3.5 seasons.

[malk]

... And then the question becomes, how do you stop him. To big for most CB's, and to fast for most LB's. The kid is an athletic freak. I'd really consider him at the bottom of the 2nd or early 3rd if that somehow became an option.

Hmmm ... so then he and Shaeen become our version of Sampson/Olajuwan?

I can think of worse outcomes.

Great reference.

But it shows your age. I wonder how many folks on here had to look that one up.

I'm old enough to know that ultimately that experiment didn't work out and Houston had to trade Sampson away after 3.5 seasons.

Injuries. Seems pretty apt for a Bears comparison.

[IotaNet]

... And then the question becomes, how do you stop him. To big for most CB's, and to fast for most LB's. The kid is an athletic freak. I'd really consider him at the bottom of the 2nd or early 3rd if that somehow became an option.

Hmmm ... so then he and Shaeen become our version of Sampson/Olajuwan?

I can think of worse outcomes.

Great reference.

But it shows your age. I wonder how many folks on here had to look that one up.

I'm old enough to know that ultimately that experiment didn't work out and Houston had to trade Sampson away after 3.5 seasons.

Injuries. Seems pretty apt for a Bears comparison.

Yeah, I went way back -- I'm old enough to be a Grandpa and that one definitely gives it away. (I don't care, tho -- Grandbabies rock!)

And unfortunately, the injury thing is part of the comparison. We simply can't catch a break where that's concerned.

[Mikefive]

... And then the question becomes, how do you stop him. To big for most CB's, and to fast for most LB's. The kid is an athletic freak. I'd really consider him at the bottom of the 2nd or early 3rd if that somehow became an option.

Hmmm ... so then he and Shaeen become our version of Sampson/Olajuwan?

I can think of worse outcomes.

Great reference.

But it shows your age. I wonder how many folks on here had to look that one up.

I'm old enough to know that ultimately that experiment didn't work out and Houston had to trade Sampson away after 3.5 seasons.

Injuries. Seems pretty apt for a Bears comparison.

Yeah, I went way back -- I'm old enough to be a Grandpa and that one definitely gives it away. (I don't care, tho -- Grandbabies rock!)

And unfortunately, the injury thing is part of the comparison. We simply can't catch a break where that's concerned.

I thought it would be neat to have grandkids. My underestimation.

[mmmc_35]

I really do like him as a recieving threat. I question Shaheens ability in that area. I would like a move TE drafted but this guy will go to high.

[Adipost]

Travis Kelce was not regarded as an athletic freak coming out of college...

Kelce has been a tremendous run blocker throughout his career for the Bearcats, but really elevated his game as a receiver in his senior season. He isn't a tremendous athlete, but he does a lot of things very well. It's a deep tight end class, but Kelce's play suggests that he should be highly sought after.

[Hematite]

Travis Kelce was not regarded as an athletic freak coming out of college...

Kelce has been a tremendous run blocker throughout his career for the Bearcats, but really elevated his game as a receiver in his senior season. He isn't a tremendous athlete, but he does a lot of things very well. It's a deep tight end class, but Kelce's play suggests that he should be highly sought after.

I was focused more on what role he plays for KC's offense and whether Gisecki would fill that role well in our offense. The fact that Gisecki is an athletic freak just makes him more intriquing!