Name your top 8

[Mikefive]

My list:

1. Bradley Chubb
<trade down>
2. Saquon Barkley
3. Quentin Nelson
4. Tremaine Edmunds
5. Marcus Davenport
6. Denzel Ward
7. Minkah Fitzpatrick
8. Vita Vea

This is a really weird draft for us. Many of the top guys don't meet our needs. I'm just not taking a QB. So I have to balance the list between meeting our needs and pure talent. So I'm valuing trading down pretty highly and feel like trade down options will be there for us. That's my take anyway.

(Edit 3/31.)
I have the same 8 guys, but I had to move some of them around. I still think trading down makes a lot of sense, but if Chubb is there, you take him and walk away. Outside of that, you're all ears on trade up offers. I'm right on the borderline of moving Barkley above that line, but my bias for Howard (I love that guy) is holding me back. But there's no denying that Barkley is going to be a maniac and in an aggressive offense like ours should be, he could go wild. I've moved Nelson above Edmunds as his high floor compared to Edmunds' massive learning curve appeals to the conservative part of me.

Davenport and Ward have moved up my list a bit and Fitzpatrick has dropped. I was blue skying and thinking about Ward as our nickel CB and that would really screw opposing teams up. And if one of our starting outside CBs got hurt, Ward should be able to flip outside and be a better option than Cooper. Shoot, he may very well push one of our starters to nickel. He should as a top 10 pick. Fitzpatrick's strength is his versatility, but not his lockdown coverage traits and I think I value Ward's coverage ability more highly.

[thunderspirit]

[quote="thunderspirit"]I'm really having a hard time finding eight guys I would be happy to take. Both Saquon Barkley and DJ Moore fit the athleticism profile of a top pick, but neither fills a team need well. It's a quandary. [/quote]
Still having that trouble,TBH.

1. Bradley Chubb
2. Tremaine Edmunds
3. Quenton Nelson
4. Marcus Davenport
<trade down 6-10 spots>
5. Minkah Fitzpatrick (for which I blame G08)
6.Vita Vea (for which I blame wab)
7. Leighton Vander Esch
8. Josh Sweat

[Mr.Irrelevant]

1. Bradley Chubb
2. Tremaine Edmunds - and I play him at OLB. Bigger, faster, stronger than Floyd - and only 19. This is my main target
3. Saquon Barkley - Hard to pass up a "generational player"
4. Minkah Fitzpatrick - I'm not sold on Amos
<Trade Down>
5. Marcus Davenport - I'm worried about his not dominating lesser competition
6. Vita Vea - what he has you can't teach, and Goldman gets hurt a lot
7. Quenton Nelson - lots of good guards in this draft, and now we have Heistand
8. Harold Landry - if the first seven are gone and we can't trade down.

[wab]

Basically Quenton Nelson 8 times.

[Bears Whiskey Nut]

Basically Quenton Nelson 8 times.

[46Blitz]

Basically Quenton Nelson 8 times.

Right there with ya...

[Mikefive]

And if Quentin Nelson's not there?

[Adipost]

Basically Quenton Nelson 8 times.

Lame

[46Blitz]

And if Quentin Nelson's not there?

He will be there at 6 where the Bears move up to get him.

[G08]

It's been two weeks... curious to see if this has changed for anyone? Also I'd like to throw in a caveat if I may. Assume we stay at pick 8 and the following are GONE:

Josh Allen
Sam Darnold
Josh Rosen
Saquan Barkley
Bradley Chubb

Who are your top 5 players (for the Bears) in order?

[wab]

It's been two weeks... curious to see if this has changed for anyone? Also I'd like to throw in a caveat if I may. Assume we stay at pick 8 and the following are GONE:

Josh Allen
Sam Darnold
Josh Rosen
Saquan Barkley
Bradley Chubb

Who are your top 5 players (for the Bears) in order?

Q. Nelson
R. Smith
V. Vea
H. Landry
T. Edmunds

[Mikefive]

It's been two weeks... curious to see if this has changed for anyone? Also I'd like to throw in a caveat if I may. Assume we stay at pick 8 and the following are GONE:

Josh Allen
Sam Darnold
Josh Rosen
Saquan Barkley
Bradley Chubb

Who are your top 5 players (for the Bears) in order?

Don't you mean 3, since the Bears pick 8th?

[G08]

It's been two weeks... curious to see if this has changed for anyone? Also I'd like to throw in a caveat if I may. Assume we stay at pick 8 and the following are GONE:

Josh Allen
Sam Darnold
Josh Rosen
Saquan Barkley
Bradley Chubb

Who are your top 5 players (for the Bears) in order?

Don't you mean 3, since the Bears pick 8th?

Nope. I want to know the 5.

[cblaz11]

Nelson
Landry
Davenport
McGlinchey
Vea
Minkah

[cblaz11]

Let's do this for the 2nd round....

[G08]

Let's do this for the 2nd round....

That's almost impossible for me because I have to know what position we address in round 1.

[cblaz11]

Nelson seems to be the common pick..go with Nelson.

Top 5 in the 2nd?

[crueltyabc]

Nelson
Edmunds
Fitzpatrick
Payne
Vea


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[G08]

I feel like my answers are going to change depending upon which way the wind is blowing and/or if I'm on the john as I'm typing this

Edmunds (I'm liking the idea of him playing inside next to Trevathan and eventually taking over for him. You can blitz him, spy the QB with him, kick him out on TEs, etc. Very versatile kid)

Davenport (if he hits he can be Aldon Smith without the baggage)

Landry (I wish he played with more strength/aggression, but as a specialist for us I could see 6-8 sacks his rookie season)

Nelson (I'm of the opinion we can get a quality OG/OC in round 2 and allow Hiestand to do his damn job)

Fitzpatrick (like him a lot as a nickel for us, even more so as a Swiss Army Knife, but I don't see Fangio using him that way)

[thunderspirit]

Nope. I want to know the 5.

In a perfect world, under the G08 scenario, I'd be hoping for calls to trade down. My top guys after Chubb and Nelson are either at positions that aren't big needs for the Bears (CB, S, WR) or I feel like they aren't quite worth where the Bears are drafting currently. Plus, I believe other teams see the same things in Baker Mayfield that I do and want to move up for him.

If I'm stuck at #8 in this hypothetical, it's:
1. Quenton Nelson
2a. Tremaine Edmunds
2b. Marcus Davenport

Basically, Nelson if he's there, or whoever is left between Davenport and Edmunds.

[46Blitz]

The more I think about it....

As good of a prospect as Nelson is, I'm starting to feel that it's still pretty early for a OG to go as early as projected. Even as early as the eighth pick. Which makes me feel he will fall to the Bears and why they pick him.

Consider that every team is looking for an absolute IMPACT player in the top 10. The only lineman worth picking early is an OT to protect a QBs blindside. Most teams are looking for that impact guy to make plays. Be it a WR, QB or edge rusher. That's what teams look for first. High grade CBS come right after that. I doubt when the clock starts ticking that teams are going to rush to draft Nelson (again as good as he is). I feel panic will kick in when that clock goes and they (teams) pick or trade up to get a rusher. Why? Because OGs are not a sexy pick.

Looking at the teams, The Bears are in a unique position in team building at this point. It's different than many of the other teams. Let's not forget the Bears are REBUILDING still. Other teams have bigger problems than the Bears have at the moment. Teams like the colts don't have a "top 10" defense. They need an impact player there. Several teams ahead also have big problems that needs can be addressed with such IMPACT players.

Outside the Bears, I just couldn't pull the trigger if I was a GM of a franchise on Nelson (as good of a Prospect he is).

The Bears on the other hand... when I say a unique position, I mean that it's obvious that they are committed to surrounding Trubisky with the talent to help him become successful. The problem (which is kinda a good one) is where else do you go to do so. They have good RBs, They drafted a TE, and just signed another. They did there best to revamp the WR position to the degree it's all but finished. What's left? OL and the best possible prospect will be sitting right there.

Sure, edge rusher is a need. But Dline and CBS are not a need at this point (at least not in the first). Same might as well be said about the safety position.

So we are only down to two positions. OLB and OL....

I have a feeling he will fall into the Bears lap. If not, there pick will be obvious. The best remaining edge rusher.

[46Blitz]

Another reason I expect the Bears to get Nelson....

I don't see a team in front of the Bears that could justifiably draft him. And I don't see how another team behind them can justify moving up past the Bears to draft him.

[G08]

Another reason I expect the Bears to get Nelson....

I don't see a team in front of the Bears that could justifiably draft him. And I don't see how another team behind them can justify moving up past the Bears to draft him.

Depending when/where the QBs get picked, I could see Nelson going to Denver or Indy. If he's on the board at 7, I'm pretty sure he'll be there at 8 for us.

[The Marshall Plan]

Another reason I expect the Bears to get Nelson....

I don't see a team in front of the Bears that could justifiably draft him. And I don't see how another team behind them can justify moving up past the Bears to draft him.

Depending when/where the QBs get picked, I could see Nelson going to Denver or Indy. If he's on the board at 7, I'm pretty sure he'll be there at 8 for us.

This.

There's a pretty decent chance that Nelson won't be there. Indy needs to protect Luck and if John Elway really does like Case Keenum they could take Nelson.

[wab]

Fans would likely revolt in Indy if they took a guard. They are transitioning to a new defense...they have two starting linebackers, one starting corner, and questions at DE. On offense they have one WR. Yes, they need to protect luck, but I'd say they need a RT more than a guard. They also have 3 picks in the second round where there should still be value on the OL.

Denver...maybe? They are saying the right things about Keenum and even Chad Kelly (Elway has mentioned him several times this offseason). I don't think they are taking a QB at 5. I think it'll be a corner or a defensive linemen.

As far as the Bears go...It's hard, because they only really have one glaring weakness...pass rusher. Yeah, there is a hole at LG, but the Bears have guys that can fill that hole should they choose.

I could see a team trading up a few spots with Tampa if Nelson is there.

[crueltyabc]

I just keep looking at the Cardinals, Bengals, and Chargers and thinking... are these teams just gonna take their chances with their trash veteran quarterbacks? Instead of trading up in front of Miami and Buffalo to get a guy? There has to be some additional trades that impact us at 8

[Mikefive]

How about NE now that they have 2 #1s with #23 and #31? The dreaded pick value chart says that's pretty close to value for #8.

[DaSuperfan]

Dealing with the Patriots makes you feel like you've just made a deal with the Devil.

[The Marshall Plan]

How about NE now that they have 2 #1s with #23 and #31? The dreaded pick value chart says that's pretty close to value for #8.

You got me thinking with that so I looked it up. Yes sir you're right.

#8 overall is 1400 points.

#23 is 760.
#31 is 600.

So we're short a few points and we really should be receiving a premium. Where does NE pick in the third? NE has #95 in the third. That's worth 120. Not enough.

The 43 in the second is 470. We won't get that. Unless we involve a day 2 pick (works for me) to even it out.

The 63 in the second is 276. Fine by me.

At that point the draft for me should be about boring, but solid OL type players in round 1. For the edge rusher, Walter Football had Landry dropping to the mid-20s. Take him at 23?

I wouldn't have a problem taking 2 OL players in the first two rounds. We'll get two starter quality players out of that.

[Mikefive]

How about NE now that they have 2 #1s with #23 and #31? The dreaded pick value chart says that's pretty close to value for #8.

You got me thinking with that so I looked it up. Yes sir you're right.

#8 overall is 1400 points.

#23 is 760.
#31 is 600.

So we're short a few points and we really should be receiving a premium. Where does NE pick in the third? NE has #95 in the third. That's worth 120. Not enough.

The 43 in the second is 470. We won't get that. Unless we involve a day 2 pick (works for me) to even it out.

The 63 in the second is 276. Fine by me.

At that point the draft for me should be about boring, but solid OL type players in round 1. For the edge rusher, Walter Football had Landry dropping to the mid-20s. Take him at 23?

I wouldn't have a problem taking 2 OL players in the first two rounds. We'll get two starter quality players out of that.

OK, if that's how Ryan Pace thinks no trade will happen. Your thinking is that we should receive a premium... as in +236 points on our side, overpaying by the value of a high R3 pick? That's pretty insane.