Jets acquire 3rd overall pick

[cblaz11]

I'd bet the house they take a QB..

With the Jets right behind them almost certain to take a QB, there's now way they don't.

[Rusty Trombagent]

I could see the top 8 going like this (barring any other trades of course):

1. Browns - Sam Darnold
2. Giants - Saquon Barkley
3. Jets - Josh Allen
4. Browns - Bradley Chubb
5. Broncos - Josh Rosen
6. Colts - Quenton Nelson
7. Bucs - Minkah Fitzpatrick
8. Bears - Tremaine Edmunds

There are so many possibilities. Heck, the Browns may not take a QB #1 overall - no one really knows. But my guess is that they will because of the Jets trading up to 3 and also the Bills lurking in the background. It forces the Browns to use the 1st pick on a QB. I also think the Giants are a wild card to take a QB. Their GM Gettleman could be trying to salvage one more year out of Eli and build around him - or he could say F it, wipe the slate clean and get a young QB now to build around. It'll be interesting to see how it all shakes out - this could be one of the most entertaining top 10's in a while.

I don't think the Browns take a QB #1 either. Barkley will not be there at 4 if they pass on him at 1. However there will be QBs on the board at 4 if they take Barkley at 1. I could also see them not taking a QB at all in the first round and letting Taylor be the guy next year.

If they Browns walk away with Barkley and Chubb at 1 and 4 that's an amazing draft. I know the positions don't line up, but could Joe Thomas' retiring make them take Nelson at 4?

It feels incredibly delusional to me right now to think that picks 1-3 are not all going to be QB's. If the Giants dont take a QB (ESPECIALLY after the browns pass on taking a QB), someone is going to trade up into that spot. There are just too many teams that could potentially lunge at the chance to take whatever QB they want instead of picking through who's left.

So the Browns take a running back who will absolutely be there at 4, and potentially dont get their top two QB's because of this.

[wab]

1-3 will absolutely be QBs.

[crueltyabc]

Why wouldn’t the Colts wait until draft day?

[Rusty Trombagent]

Why wouldn’t the Colts wait until draft day?

because someone could potentially trade into the 2 spot, and then the jets could say fuck it? or the jets could end up getting a better deal for the 2 spot? or a million other things could happen and it could fall through?

if you like the terms of the trade (and if i'm a colts fan, i think this is a fucking home run), why give it time to collapse?

[Rusty Trombagent]

Why wouldn’t the Colts wait until draft day?

because someone could potentially trade into the 2 spot, and then the jets could say fuck it? or the jets could end up getting a better deal for the 2 spot? or a million other things could happen and it could fall through?

if you like the terms of the trade (and if i'm a colts fan, i think this is a fucking home run), why give it time to collapse?

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[thunderspirit]

Can't be true.
Everyone knows Ryan Pace got fleeced.

[Mikefive]

Trade up deals are all about success rate of the QB you got. If you get a quality QB, it's generally worth it. I'm satisfied.

[malk]

Can't be true.
Everyone knows Ryan Pace got fleeced.

It's incredibly situational though. Pace moved up to guarantee no one else traded with the 49ers. The worst case scenario was we could take Mahomes or Watson and, as it turned out, the next QB went to KC after a trade up to 10.

Now does someone else make a trade because they had Trubisky higher than the other QBs? Sure, its possible, but whom?

It's also worth considering how much extra Trubisky is costing over Mahomes, it's $29m compared to $16m.

[Atkins&Rebel]

Too many Giants fans want them to get a boat load of picks and trade out of #2. Most of the local analysts I'm hearing are split between Nelson and Chubb for them if they stay, with Barkley being the dark horse if the Browns pass on him #1.

[G08]

Barkley, IMO, is the win-now move for the Giants if they plan on sticking with Eli for a few more years. At the end of the day I kiiiiind of think Buffalo is going to bend over and take it in the keester to move up to #2.

[Adipost]

Why wouldn’t the Colts wait until draft day?

because someone could potentially trade into the 2 spot, and then the jets could say fuck it? or the jets could end up getting a better deal for the 2 spot? or a million other things could happen and it could fall through?

if you like the terms of the trade (and if i'm a colts fan, i think this is a fucking home run), why give it time to collapse?

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This doesn’t take into account the fact that Ryan Pace didn’t need to trade up to draft Trubisky.

[thunderspirit]

This doesn’t take into account the fact that Ryan Pace didn’t need to trade up to draft Trubisky.

And there are plenty of counter stories (several from sources I trust) that said there were other teams trying to trade up.

Believe what you want.

[G08]

This doesn’t take into account the fact that Ryan Pace didn’t need to trade up to draft Trubisky.

And there are plenty of counter stories (several from sources I trust) that said there were other teams trying to trade up.

Believe what you want.

That's the way Pace tells it too... he got the impression from teams that wanted to trade with HIM that if he said no they'd go over his head and consider something with SF at #2. He didn't want to risk losing out on his guy. I didn't like what he paid at the time, but now that it's all said and done I'm glad to have our wagon hitched to MT10.

[BR0D1E86]

Why wouldn’t the Colts wait until draft day?

because someone could potentially trade into the 2 spot, and then the jets could say fuck it? or the jets could end up getting a better deal for the 2 spot? or a million other things could happen and it could fall through?

if you like the terms of the trade (and if i'm a colts fan, i think this is a fucking home run), why give it time to collapse?

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This doesn’t take into account the fact that Ryan Pace didn’t need to trade up to draft Trubisky.

There’s a fair amount of evidence that teams were looking to trade up to take him.

[malk]

Barkley, IMO, is the win-now move for the Giants if they plan on sticking with Eli for a few more years. At the end of the day I kiiiiind of think Buffalo is going to bend over and take it in the keester to move up to #2.

They have to take a QB. Misplaced loyalty to an average QB (HoF my hairy ginger arse!*) is a bad, bad idea.

I'd trade down if offered loads but they can't take Barkley.

*That's directed at Good Morning Football, not you!

[crueltyabc]

As bad as the giants were last year, I don’t see how they can expect to turn it around in one or two off seasons. I see Eli as a stopgap that placates the fans during a rebuild.


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[Bears Whiskey Nut]

If Nelson is Pace's guy (and I think he is) how does this shake out. I see a lot of mocks that have the Colts taking Nelson at #6. Its possible that Pace could swap our second round pick for Indy's third round, and that would be a bit more value than we would need to swap the 8th for the 6th. Would you do that?

[wab]

I love Nelson, like a lot...but I'm not trading up for a guard. If he's there at 8 take him, but I'm not down with trading up.

[Bears Whiskey Nut]

I love Nelson, like a lot...but I'm not trading up for a guard. If he's there at 8 take him, but I'm not down with trading up.

Fair point. Then right now, it looks like we get Edmunds. Unless you think that OL is a definite need. Would you take McGlinchey, given a) our RT sucks, and b) Heistand is now our OL coach?

You could start Leno/Whitehair/Kush/Long/McGlinchey.