I could live with that. Moreso if we traded down with Buffalo or Arizona.Z Bear wrote:I really think Vita Vea is in play at #8 more than we realize. I feel out D would be more benefited by Vea playing next to Goldman and Hicks more than Edmunds/Smith at LB or Landry/Davenpot at Edge.
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He's a top 12 pick. If the Bears want him they need to just do it at #8.BR0D1E86 wrote:I could live with that. Moreso if we traded down with Buffalo or Arizona.Z Bear wrote:I really think Vita Vea is in play at #8 more than we realize. I feel out D would be more benefited by Vea playing next to Goldman and Hicks more than Edmunds/Smith at LB or Landry/Davenpot at Edge.
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wab wrote:He's a top 12 pick. If the Bears want him they need to just do it at #8.BR0D1E86 wrote:I could live with that. Moreso if we traded down with Buffalo or Arizona.Z Bear wrote:I really think Vita Vea is in play at #8 more than we realize. I feel out D would be more benefited by Vea playing next to Goldman and Hicks more than Edmunds/Smith at LB or Landry/Davenpot at Edge.
BUT DER'S NO VALUE DARE
GOTTA TRADE DOWNTA GET HIM AT 14 OR SOMETIN BECAUZ PACE WILL GET FLEECED AGAIN IF HET TAKES DIS GUY AT 8
I'LL HANGUP AND LISSEN TO YOUR ANSWERS
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Ass.UOK wrote:wab wrote:He's a top 12 pick. If the Bears want him they need to just do it at #8.BR0D1E86 wrote:I could live with that. Moreso if we traded down with Buffalo or Arizona.Z Bear wrote:I really think Vita Vea is in play at #8 more than we realize. I feel out D would be more benefited by Vea playing next to Goldman and Hicks more than Edmunds/Smith at LB or Landry/Davenpot at Edge.
BUT DER'S NO VALUE DARE
GOTTA TRADE DOWNTA GET HIM AT 14 OR SOMETIN BECAUZ PACE WILL GET FLEECED AGAIN IF HET TAKES DIS GUY AT 8
I'LL HANGUP AND LISSEN TO YOUR ANSWERS
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Mikefive wrote:Ass.UOK wrote:wab wrote:He's a top 12 pick. If the Bears want him they need to just do it at #8.BR0D1E86 wrote:I could live with that. Moreso if we traded down with Buffalo or Arizona.Z Bear wrote:I really think Vita Vea is in play at #8 more than we realize. I feel out D would be more benefited by Vea playing next to Goldman and Hicks more than Edmunds/Smith at LB or Landry/Davenpot at Edge.
BUT DER'S NO VALUE DARE
GOTTA TRADE DOWNTA GET HIM AT 14 OR SOMETIN BECAUZ PACE WILL GET FLEECED AGAIN IF HET TAKES DIS GUY AT 8
I'LL HANGUP AND LISSEN TO YOUR ANSWERS
Haha, not a jab at you! Just saying that there's rarely a perfect solution for these things. It's been proven that if you have conviction on a guy, right or wrong, you kind of have to eat the value. Gambling to get that player later using some thrifty trades is always something I think we all crave, but that rarely works out.
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Need vs BPA.... If you draft for need you tend to over-value a little. Is gambling on a mid-first round talent early in the first round a huge deal? Probably not. Pace has drafted for need in the first round the last two years, he jumped up for Floyd and Trubisky, giving up draft capital to do so for each of them, reaching a little. What is the difference between that and staying put and drafting a guy you like a little early?
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Z Bear wrote:Need vs BPA.... If you draft for need you tend to over-value a little. Is gambling on a mid-first round talent early in the first round a huge deal? Probably not. Pace has drafted for need in the first round the last two years, he jumped up for Floyd and Trubisky, giving up draft capital to do so for each of them, reaching a little. What is the difference between that and staying put and drafting a guy you like a little early?
Pace would tell you he drafted for "conviction," but that's all semantics.
The trading up aspect is essentially insurance to guarantee the guys he doesn't want to slip away. Taking no chances. That obviously means you have to be 100%, and obviously the next couple years of Floyd and Trubisky's improvement will be telling as to if Ryan Pace's gut is worth trusting.
The Patriots interestingly talked recently about how drafting for need is the worst thing you can do.
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I don't see two WR in the first four picks. It's a good draft, but I'm guessing that two of the first four are an EDGE, and OL.
As much as the lack of depth at WR on the Bears roster scares me, I just don't seem them drafting two WRs in this draft, especially with back-to-back picks. I just don't see a scenario where the Bears draft two WRs, two defensive linemen and not a single guy along the offensive line.
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