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Thu Apr 26, 2018 10:26 pm

Well shit - twitter reporting that a bunch of teams have Landry red-flagged for back/ankle.

Damn.
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Thu Apr 26, 2018 10:32 pm

Ravens traded w/ Philly for pick 32. Seeya tomorrow, Bears fans.
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Thu Apr 26, 2018 10:33 pm

That's good news, don't need any more injury risk guys on this team.
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Thu Apr 26, 2018 10:41 pm

Hoping one of Daniels, Hernandez or Landry (assuming his ankle is ok) make it to us.

But I had a Facebook memory show up today where I blew up about drafting Forte. So I don’t know s@@@.
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Thu Apr 26, 2018 11:04 pm

https://twitter.com/adamjahns/status/98 ... 36576?s=20

(It got cut off on my screen...)


C James Daniels
G Will Hernandez
CB Josh Jackson
CB Isaiah Oliver
OLB Harold Landry
WR Courtland Sutton
WR Anthony Miller
OLB Lorenzo Carter
WR Christian Kirk
OL Connor Williams
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Fri Apr 27, 2018 12:52 am

BR0D1E86 wrote:https://twitter.com/adamjahns/status/98 ... 36576?s=20

(It got cut off on my screen...)


C James Daniels
G Will Hernandez
CB Josh Jackson
CB Isaiah Oliver
OLB Harold Landry
WR Courtland Sutton
WR Anthony Miller
OLB Lorenzo Carter
WR Christian Kirk
OL Connor Williams
Would love any of the players listed here.
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Fri Apr 27, 2018 2:28 am

Rumor is that the Bears were targeting Mike Hughes with a trade back into the 1st round.
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Fri Apr 27, 2018 3:12 am

Smith all good for me,,
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Fri Apr 27, 2018 6:47 am

BR0D1E86 wrote:https://twitter.com/adamjahns/status/98 ... 36576?s=20

(It got cut off on my screen...)


C James Daniels
G Will Hernandez
CB Josh Jackson
CB Isaiah Oliver
OLB Harold Landry
WR Courtland Sutton
WR Anthony Miller
OLB Lorenzo Carter
WR Christian Kirk
OL Connor Williams
If we wind up with either Landry or Kirk I’m gonna be stoked. If we draft Kirk I’m referrring to him as Captain Kirk going forward.
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Fri Apr 27, 2018 7:07 am

Trade back coming... At least based on history.
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Fri Apr 27, 2018 8:13 am

Well put me down for Connor Williams.
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Fri Apr 27, 2018 8:20 am

So much talent left in the 2nd.

I think I'd go Landry / Hernandez / Kirk / Williams if we don't trade back.
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Fri Apr 27, 2018 8:26 am

I like Williams if he’s there.
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Fri Apr 27, 2018 8:40 am

So much freaking talent...

Teams drafting ahead of us round 2 and their needs:

CLE - OL / S / WR

NYG - DL / OL / QB / WR

IND - DL / LB / WR

TB - CB / OL / RB / S
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Fri Apr 27, 2018 8:52 am

Bears should have great options. Hoping for Isaiah Oliver/Will Hernandez, personally.
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Fri Apr 27, 2018 8:56 am

I'm hoping for Connor Williams, Oliver, or Harrison Phillips.
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Fri Apr 27, 2018 9:05 am

Fucking around with a round 2 mock. Hubbard to Bears because wtf do I know.

Round 2
Pick (overall)
1 (33). Cleveland Williams, Connor OT
2 (34). New York G Daniels, James OC
3 (35). Cleveland Landry, Harold Edge
4 (36). Indianapolis Sutton, Courtland WR
5 (37). Indianapolis Hurst, Maurice DT
6 (38). Tampa Bay Guice, Derrius RB
7 (39). Chicago Hubbard, Sam Edge
8 (40). Denver Jackson, Joshua CB
9 (41). Oakland Davis, Carlton CB
10 (42). Miami Gesicki, Mike TE
11 (43). New England Jefferson, Malik LB
12 (44). Washington Oliver, Isaiah CB
13 (45). Green Bay Reid, Justin S
14 (46). Cincinnati Chubb, Nick RB
15 (47). Arizona Hernandez, Will OG
16 (48). Los Angeles Phillips, Harrison 5T
17 (49). Indianapolis Jones, Ronald RB
18 (50). Dallas Washington, James WR
19 (51). Detroit Lions Goedert, Dallas TE
20 (52). Philadelphia Jackson, Donte CB
21 (53). Tampa Bay Harrison, Ronnie S
22 (54). Kansas City Green, Rasheem 5T
23 (55). Carolina Smith, Braden OG
24 (56). Tampa Bay Kirk, Christian WR
25 (57). Tennesse Carter, Lorenzo Edge
26 (58). Atlanta Hand, Da'Shawn 5T
27 (59). San Francisco O'Neill, Brian OT
28 (60). Pittsburgh Okoronkwo, Obonnia Edge
29 (61). Jacksonville Baker, Jerome LB
30 (62). Minnesota Gallup, Michael WR
31 (63). New England Rudolph, Mason QB
32 (64). Cleveland Miller, Anthony WR
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Fri Apr 27, 2018 9:06 am

wab wrote:I'm hoping for Connor Williams, Oliver, or Harrison Phillips.
I am fine with this list.
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Fri Apr 27, 2018 9:25 am

wab wrote:I'm hoping for Connor Williams, Oliver, or Harrison Phillips.

I like Williams if only because he has the feet and athleticism to play LT, but is strong enough to slide inside and bully people at OG.

He's going to need to gain weight regardless - but he is a tremendous prospect.
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Fri Apr 27, 2018 9:56 am

Hiphopopotamos wrote:
wab wrote:I'm hoping for Connor Williams, Oliver, or Harrison Phillips.

I like Williams if only because he has the feet and athleticism to play LT, but is strong enough to slide inside and bully people at OG.

He's going to need to gain weight regardless - but he is a tremendous prospect.
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Fri Apr 27, 2018 10:40 am

Wow I didn't know everyone liked Williams! He was my OT and agree that he can play guard for us.

Here are my notes on my favs for round 2:

Connor Williams is BPA in my opinion
Legs like tree trunks and nasty attitude. Best college tackle in 2016 according to some. Moves pretty well though battled a knee injury in 2017. At current speed he's a good guard and OK tackle, if his knee gets to 100% and he's playing like 2016 he's a good tackle. best tackle in this weak class

Lorenzo Carter
Doesn't have great pass rusher moves yet, but uses that 4.5 speed and his OLB versatility will be a plus. similar to Floyd but he's got better size. Uses long arms well to shed blocks. Looks comfortable in space. Nose for the ball who will run to make tackles on receivers and look to strip the ball.

Will Hernandez
Pretty good athlete despite his looks and combine stats. Crazy strong. Happy to run out and kill guys on pulls or targeting bubble LBs. 2nd best pure guard.

Isaiah Oliver
Bit of a prima donna. plays like he's the best player on the field. sometimes seems to think he's too good to get dirty trying to tackle a guy, but his man coverage is great and attitude helps in a CB sometimes
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Fri Apr 27, 2018 11:14 am

Connor Williams was a top 5 overall pick based on 2016 tape.

2017 was not quite as impressive and two injuries limited him to 5 games.

While the injuries certainly slowed him down, I think his third OL coach and 4th OC (and two head coaches) in 3 years didn't do him any favors.

I'm a Texas fan-boy - so its hard for me not to be biased but this kid is exactly what you want in an OL. He's a smart kid who was admitted to the McComb's School of Business but who plays angry and with a chip on his shoulder. He was bullied as a kid for being fat - and he learned to take out all of that pain/humiliation/frustration/aggression on the football field.

He'd be a great pick if thats the direction Chicago wants to go (and if he's available at 39). I think he might be a prime target for either CLE or IND.
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Fri Apr 27, 2018 11:36 am

Would you trade a 2nd and 4th to Cleveland for Williams?
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Fri Apr 27, 2018 11:48 am

mmmc_35 wrote:Would you trade a 2nd and 4th to Cleveland for Williams?
I would
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Fri Apr 27, 2018 1:14 pm

mmmc_35 wrote:Fucking around with a round 2 mock. Hubbard to Bears because wtf do I know.

Round 2
Pick (overall)
1 (33). Cleveland Williams, Connor OT
2 (34). New York G Daniels, James OC
3 (35). Cleveland Landry, Harold Edge
4 (36). Indianapolis Sutton, Courtland WR
5 (37). Indianapolis Hurst, Maurice DT
6 (38). Tampa Bay Guice, Derrius RB
7 (39). Chicago Hubbard, Sam Edge
8 (40). Denver Jackson, Joshua CB
9 (41). Oakland Davis, Carlton CB
10 (42). Miami Gesicki, Mike TE
11 (43). New England Jefferson, Malik LB
12 (44). Washington Oliver, Isaiah CB
13 (45). Green Bay Reid, Justin S
14 (46). Cincinnati Chubb, Nick RB
15 (47). Arizona Hernandez, Will OG
16 (48). Los Angeles Phillips, Harrison 5T
17 (49). Indianapolis Jones, Ronald RB
18 (50). Dallas Washington, James WR
19 (51). Detroit Lions Goedert, Dallas TE
20 (52). Philadelphia Jackson, Donte CB
21 (53). Tampa Bay Harrison, Ronnie S
22 (54). Kansas City Green, Rasheem 5T
23 (55). Carolina Smith, Braden OG
24 (56). Tampa Bay Kirk, Christian WR
25 (57). Tennesse Carter, Lorenzo Edge
26 (58). Atlanta Hand, Da'Shawn 5T
27 (59). San Francisco O'Neill, Brian OT
28 (60). Pittsburgh Okoronkwo, Obonnia Edge
29 (61). Jacksonville Baker, Jerome LB
30 (62). Minnesota Gallup, Michael WR
31 (63). New England Rudolph, Mason QB
32 (64). Cleveland Miller, Anthony WR

If Hernandez is available at 39. We have to take him. He is a plug and play LG, that can start day one. He is arguably first round OL talent.
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Fri Apr 27, 2018 1:18 pm

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mmmc_35 wrote:Would you trade a 2nd and 4th to Cleveland for Williams?
I would

Yep. Hernandez and Williams are likely to be gone by the time IND and CLE make their two picks each at the top of the 2nd.
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Fri Apr 27, 2018 1:25 pm

I've never really thought about it before - but Williams and Long have similar physical/measureables.

The only real difference in their numbers is Long ran the 40 a tenth of a second faster than Williams. Their 3 cone and shuttle times are identical. Both have 33" arms, though Long stands about an inch taller than Williams. Williams had the better broad and vertical jump.

Williams was a HS TE who was recriuited as an OT and started immediately at Texas - so he's definitely an athlete.
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Fri Apr 27, 2018 1:58 pm

I feel like the amount of talent we should be available at #39 would lend us to trade down more so than trade up.
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Fri Apr 27, 2018 2:29 pm

G08 wrote:I feel like the amount of talent we should be available at #39 would lend us to trade down more so than trade up.
I’m in the same boat. There are many players that I’d be happy to get with our next pick. Several guys still around that I was pretty sure would go in the first round.
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Fri Apr 27, 2018 3:02 pm

Would love James Daniels, if his medicals are okay.

Like Connor Williams, Isaiah Oliver, and Sam Hubbard. Also would be okay with Harrison Phillips or Carlton Davis.
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