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PostPosted: Tue Apr 24, 2018 8:45 pm 
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Don't know if anyone heard this, but I was listening to Holmes talk about the 2017 draft and the way he put it was... let's say... rather pointed. Here's his position, or at least part of it--which I never really quite thought about precisely this way. And we've never heard the answer to this question, but its a pretty good one.

Clearly, Mitch Trubisky was Ryan Pace's guy. It also seems clear that despite signing Glennon, Pace was shopping for a QB with that #3 pick. For whatever reason, we all saw Pace trade 2 R3's and a R4 to move up one spot to take Biscuit 2nd overall. If you had stood pat at 3 and kept the extra picks, you had Trubisky or DeShaun Watson in hand. So the worst case scenario was that you missed out on Trubisky and got Watson instead.

The unanswered question is... Why was Trubisky worth 2 R3's and a R4 more than Deshaun Watson?

Interesting valuation question if you want to revisit the 2017 Biscuit pick.

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PostPosted: Tue Apr 24, 2018 8:46 pm 
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I don’t really want to revisit it.


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PostPosted: Tue Apr 24, 2018 9:09 pm 
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the short answer: Dowell Loggains.

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PostPosted: Tue Apr 24, 2018 9:15 pm 
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wab wrote:
I don’t really want to revisit it.


Indeed. I'm sick of revisiting it.

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PostPosted: Tue Apr 24, 2018 9:19 pm 
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Atkins&Rebel wrote:
the short answer: Dowell Loggains.


it's super rude to call people short.

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PostPosted: Tue Apr 24, 2018 9:26 pm 
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Oh for fucks sake. Watson was the third QB taken and 10 spots after Trubisky.

Trubisky was worth every fucking pick in the draft if the Bears were convinced he was the only franchise QB in 2017.

And Laurence Holmes is a fucking moron.

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PostPosted: Tue Apr 24, 2018 11:15 pm 
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I think this was in conjunction with a article about the Trubsky trade, that apparently makes Pace look foolish. I can't find the article, I have heard about on the score.


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PostPosted: Wed Apr 25, 2018 5:16 am 
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Don't really get it. It's done, been done.....

But in the end they wanted their guy. They went out and got THEIR GUY! I respect that move more than sitting on their hands and missing out. From what I have seen from Trubs is that it was worth it, rather than the chance of missing out on him. This team needed a real QB and face of the franchise. They got it.

Now this talk about Watson. Who Cares? hindsight is 20/20.


Personally Trubisky was the guy I wanted. So I have a little bias here. But I am comfortable with not taking any chances of loosing out if they had any feeling of someone moving past them to get him.


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PostPosted: Wed Apr 25, 2018 5:20 am 
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wab wrote:
I don’t really want to revisit it.

Agreed. I was a big Deshaun Watson guy but I’m not the GM. Pace did what he needed to do to get HIS guy. Time will tell if he was right. Move on.


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PostPosted: Wed Apr 25, 2018 6:19 am 
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I agree it's over. They got their guy.

The question is more do you trust Pace? It's a larger question and not easily answered. To honest it's been discussed in several threads, and kind of beaten to death.


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