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PostPosted: Mon Apr 30, 2018 9:39 am 
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I like to say that a draft should produce at least 2 competent starters and a competent part-time player (contributor). I'm optimistic that Pace did that. He didn't try to get too cute and outsmart anyone. He drafted players at positions of need that we have all identified. The addition of another receiver really says to me that everyone is taking 2018 seriously. This isn't just another rebuilding year - this is a year they expect to win some games. Next year they can make decisions on Amos and White, and plan to add an EDGE guy early in the draft.

We have a bit of money and I'm wondering now if Pace will add a veteran EDGE guy even if it means overpaying a bit. Otherwise Fangio will try to compensate with blitzing and our speedy new LBs will pick up a few sacks to compensate for Acho being less than what we want at his spot


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PostPosted: Mon Apr 30, 2018 10:00 am 
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... I'm wondering now if Pace will add a veteran EDGE guy ...
Who's available?

I know they picked up Lynch but is there anyone you can think of that might be available?


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PostPosted: Mon Apr 30, 2018 10:05 am 
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 30, 2018 5:02 pm 
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Every year fans are super optimistic about their teams prospects. I am more pessimistic then most. I think the draft was good but A+ ratings are far from realistic in my opinion. The Bears drafted a bunch of smaller guys with injury concerns. They got good talent but A+ hall of fame class of 2035 isn't accurate.

If you consider 3 starters per draft to be good. The bears at best have 2 starters, 1 slot WR who is close to a starter and 2 rotation special teams guys.

Grade B

Smith is a very good player. He has elite instincts, above a average athleticism, a bit light in the pants. Yes LBs can be light in some cases. Smith though is a naturally thinner build and average height. If healthy he has pro bowl ability. That's not arguable, so it's a good pick. I preferred Edmunds, due to ceiling, size, athleticism, versitility, but Smith is good. He had great burst, understanding of coverage. Injury concern Tony Pauline reports Smith had some medical concerns.

Daniels is athletically as good as a center gets, but not a strength specimen. He holds the point better then some give him credit for. He physically is small compared to most. He gets to the second level well, and is very aware in the scrum. He fits the system. He is not a guard. You or 6'3" Leno and 6'3" Daniels and you can't run that way. I preferred Connor Williams, but center Daniels is an above average starter ceiling. Injury concern Daniels self reported teams checking outhis knees.

Miller was a guy whom to me seemed very average. I have watched more of him sense. I can't put my finger on who he reminds me of, but the style seems so familiar. Almost like a short striding Davante Adams. He is athletic and can start and stopquickly. He can run really clean breaks and shows good hands. People ding him on routes but they only ran like 3 in Memphis so I think they over analyze some things. He does have drops but Terry seem like focus drops not hands, as I like how he will catch away from his body. Only 5'11"and slender. He has work to become good but has tools. I preferred James Washington. Injury concern Miller has a foot fracture that is healing.


IYIEGBUNIWE (had to copy and paste) I don't know another 230lb ILB. I am sure I watched him, but I don't km now much. He has an average athletic score on my big board. Armstrong was my choice.

Nichols actually scored as above average in my athletic score. He is built very similar to Bullard , who we think i's miscast, and his combine numbers mirror closely. He can penetrate but needs to refine his hand usage. He is a project and depth. He beat up on less talented players and could be a good rotational piece in a few years. Mcintosh was my choice.

Kylie Fitts has been discussed. Could be the stall of the draft, or could never step for inn Soldier field. Clear injury concern. ESB was available.

Wind probably will never play. Holten Hill was here.


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PostPosted: Mon Apr 30, 2018 8:32 pm 
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I was surprised we kept passing on edge rusher but I would think that Fangio must have some input and an idea of what he wants, so I will take a wait and see approach on that.

Overall Im geeked for the season to start but dont expect us to win 10 this year but evolve into it next year assuming we can stay healthy.

We have a lot of health question marks and I would love to see us on the right side of that for a change.

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PostPosted: Mon Apr 30, 2018 9:47 pm 
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I'd say overall I'm happy. I wanted an edge rusher badly but the board didn't seem to break for us that way early. It's being reported that Buffalo called us about #8 but we told them we had a guy targeted there and weren't for sale.

Roquan Smith and James Daniels are first round values and while Smith wasn't a need he certainly upgrades the position as well as the overall athleticism of our defense. Anthony Miller was a solid get because (I'm assuming here) Pace/Nagy wanted him badly enough to use next years 2nd round pick to acquire him. I like him a lot in the slot and with an accurate QB like MT10 a WR like this who can get separation with his quickness and route running savvy is gold.

After that it seems like Pace went after athletic traits with the hope of development. I think Fitts could be a player if he manages to stay healthy, I like his burst/bend and I think as he continues to develop his spin move and counters to his dip/rip he could be a 4-6 sack guy in a rotation.

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PostPosted: Mon Apr 30, 2018 10:03 pm 
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OL, Interior lineman was first one my list.
MLB was second.
WR was third.

So they hit on my top 3 so that is that.


Like many others, this is the first time I haven't questioned (in my mind) WTF are they thinking on draft day. Everything makes sense in the first 2 rounds. After that, I will give them a pass on the other guys until we see what happens with 4-7. But in past drafts, questionable guys have proven to contribute who were reaches soooo....

I am VERY happy with this draft as a whole. Though I don't feel like any of the guys are "sexy" picks... They were the picks that will help anchor the team in the future (or that's the hope). They hopefully just drafted the QB of the defense and the OL for the next 10 years. They also drafted a WR who hopefully can grow with a 2nd yr Franchise QB. In the past two drafts, they just drafted (potentially) the top 3 leadership positions. Smith and Trubisky seem lights out in that department, and have talent to boot. Only time will tell on any players, But just have the same feeling that I did when they drafted Trubisky.... The team is headed in the right direction.


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PostPosted: Mon Apr 30, 2018 11:24 pm 
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I have a positive impression of the draft right now. Health will factor a lot into that but it's a difficult thing to predict, if even possible.

I like pretty much all the picks and think they fit what they are trying to do.

I don't the buy the entire "the line is to light argument". Some of the worst run and pass blocking lines in the league are the heaviest and some of the best are the lightest and vice versa with some of the lightest are the worst at both and some of the heaviest are the best.

It's about good players and good coaching, not if this guy is 2" shorter and 15 lbs lighter. Can he block and do what needs to be done in the offense.


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PostPosted: Tue May 01, 2018 9:13 am 
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IotaNet wrote:
To properly evaluate this draft, you have to do so in a broader context. This draft is not merely about the past few days ...

* You have to start with Pace drafting Trubisky ...
* Then you move to seeing Trubisky in action and seeing what we needed to surround him with ...
* That determined the kind of offense that he would thrive in ...
* That led to hiring the right coach (Nagy) that could install and teach that kind of offense ...
* Which led to finding the right kind of players that could execute that offense ...
* Which led to the decisions we made in free agency ...

... which led to the draft we just had. Taken by itself, this was a a very good draft.

But in the whole context of what Pace is trying to do, it was borderline genius!


well said ... and like any draft, first impressions when they happen may not mean much other than as a (usally temporary) happy fit


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I am more pumped to be a Bears fan that I have been in over 30 years. Yea, yeah, Lovie's Bears had a nice run but I always felt that team was was killer defense, a meh offense, and Devin Hester.


Lovie's Bears were opportunities lost ... if had not been so insecure he was threatened by having a competent offensive mind acting with him, his teams would have won at least 1 Super Bowl



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This is a team that is being built for the present and future, not as a "throwback." We are going to have killer defense AND a cutting edge offense. When have we ever been able to say that in any of our lifetimes? :o

We're not totally there yet -- we still need a deadly pass rush and we won't have that until after next years draft. Its also going to take some time for Biscuit and the rest of the squad to really learn and internalize Nagy's offense.

tl;dr We are well on our way back to being relevant in the NFL -- and that's great news!


it has been a nice learning experience to watch this current team being built ... we as fans may not always agree on how those things are being done, but it is clear the team does in fact have a plan and they are executing it

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PostPosted: Tue May 01, 2018 4:15 pm 
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Iyiegbuniwe is my favorite pick of this draft. Anybody want to argue that he wasn't a straight up BPA pick? Fourth-rounders aren't throw-aways. So to me this means that the Bears are not only out of rebuild, but they're dipping their toes into stockpile.

Or if you want to argue that he fulfilled a need on special teams, then I'm equally excited. When was the last time the Bears felt confident enough in their offense and defense to go as high as round 4 for STs?


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