Moriarty wrote:I dunno.
He sounds like a solid value at late 4, but also like a major duplicate. He's pretty much the same guy as Miller and that gives the Bears 4/6 receivers who aren't fast in an offense that seems to value speed. What situations are going to get him on the field and what is he going to contribute that they don't already have? Is he going to be the #5 receiver? If he's #4, then the Bears paid Patterson 5M to be a KR in a league that's minimizing that as fast as possible?
This team has plenty of speed and the WR's are plenty fast.
Give me guys that run routes, move the chains and have decent speed all day long vs speed burners with poor routes and average hands all day long.
If you are stuck on 40 times he ran 4.46 and 4.52 at his pro day. Plenty fast.
Where are you finding that?
Draft Scout is normally incredibly comprehensive and they have no Pro Day metrics for him.
During Georgia's Pro Day, wide receiver Riley Ridley chose not to test, instead choosing to stand pat on his numbers at the NFL Scouting Combine. Three weeks ago, the 6-foot-1 200-pound wide receiver ran an official 40-yard dash time of 4.58 sessions, turned in a vertical leap of 30.5 inches, and ran the 20-yard shuttle in 4.28. Speaking to reporters Wednesday, Ridley said that he had no plans to test again.
"I did not consider running the 40," Ridley said. "I felt what I put out at the combine is what I put out and I was happy about it.
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Moriarty wrote:I dunno.
He sounds like a solid value at late 4, but also like a major duplicate. He's pretty much the same guy as Miller and that gives the Bears 4/6 receivers who aren't fast in an offense that seems to value speed. What situations are going to get him on the field and what is he going to contribute that they don't already have? Is he going to be the #5 receiver? If he's #4, then the Bears paid Patterson 5M to be a KR in a league that's minimizing that as fast as possible?
This team has plenty of speed and the WR's are plenty fast.
Give me guys that run routes, move the chains and have decent speed all day long vs speed burners with poor routes and average hands all day long.
If you are stuck on 40 times he ran 4.46 and 4.52 at his pro day. Plenty fast.
Where are you finding that?
Draft Scout is normally incredibly comprehensive and they have no Pro Day metrics for him.
During Georgia's Pro Day, wide receiver Riley Ridley chose not to test, instead choosing to stand pat on his numbers at the NFL Scouting Combine. Three weeks ago, the 6-foot-1 200-pound wide receiver ran an official 40-yard dash time of 4.58 sessions, turned in a vertical leap of 30.5 inches, and ran the 20-yard shuttle in 4.28. Speaking to reporters Wednesday, Ridley said that he had no plans to test again.
"I did not consider running the 40," Ridley said. "I felt what I put out at the combine is what I put out and I was happy about it.
Sorry was looking at projected. They had it in the same article talking about the combine 40 I was reading but I didn't gather it was projected..
wab wrote:From a roster standpoint, this doesn’t make a lot of sense. From a value standpoint, I can see where he was BPA. Probably means the end of Wims though.
That's what I was thinking. A bit of a head scratcher, although if somebody gets hurt in camp, then it's the obvious cover up.
Maybe Wims finally makes the long awaited move to TE?
This.
If he can learn to block he seems freakishly big for a WR.
Imagine Biscuit in the shotgun formation with 3 wide and Wims as a TE with Montgomery in the backfield. Who covers Wims? Have fun defending that.
wab wrote:From a roster standpoint, this doesn’t make a lot of sense. From a value standpoint, I can see where he was BPA. Probably means the end of Wims though.
That's what I was thinking. A bit of a head scratcher, although if somebody gets hurt in camp, then it's the obvious cover up.
Maybe Wims finally makes the long awaited move to TE?
Is he big enough to play TE? I just saw 6'4 220 unless he's bulked up.
It was not a position I thought we needed to focus on, so it left me scratching my head. I like what I see on tape, and I love a big guy with wide catch radius that runs good routes. In the end a team is always benefited by a good possession WR like that. When he gets to contribute is murky to me.
Of those of you mentioning the possibility of Wims moving to TE, is he physically capable of handling a move like that in your opinions?
This pick puzzled me too. I understand he was the "best on the board by far" according to Pace. But it seems like with our depth at WR and our lack of picks it might have been prudent to trade down for a couple of extra picks and get some safety, TE, or OL help instead.
Mr.Irrelevant wrote:This pick puzzled me too. I understand he was the "best on the board by far" according to Pace. But it seems like with our depth at WR and our lack of picks it might have been prudent to trade down for a couple of extra picks and get some safety, TE, or OL help instead.
Looking at the remainder of R4 and all of R5, I can honestly say there wasn't a player available that was a better value than Ridley. Maybe Deionte Thompson. But there wasn't an offensive lineman I would have taken. As far as TE goes, Raymond was my highest rated TE at that point and the Bears got him as a UDFA.
This really was a BPA situation. Most had Ridley as a mid 2nd to early 3rd.
VA_Mountain_Bear wrote:It was not a position I thought we needed to focus on, so it left me scratching my head. I like what I see on tape, and I love a big guy with wide catch radius that runs good routes. In the end a team is always benefited by a good possession WR like that. When he gets to contribute is murky to me.
Of those of you mentioning the possibility of Wims moving to TE, is he physically capable of handling a move like that in your opinions?
Physically, I think so. He'd ostensibly be the backup to Burton as the "move" TE. He's 6'4 and basically 15lbs away from being a TE in this offense anyway. I don't know if the Bears would move him though. Raymond is a natural TE and probably a better player at the position.
G08 wrote:FWIW Pace said that he can see the Bears keeping 6 WRs if needed.
My guess?
Locks:
Robinson
Gabriel
Miller
Patterson
Ridley
After that? It's a toss-up between, IMO, Wims and Hall.
The knock on Hall is that he's injury prone. I predict he has an "injury" this year that puts him on IR. Then he competes with Gabriel for a spot in 2020. I actually thought he was hurt already and would be PUPed this year. But it seems like he was healthy for the combine so I guess not.
I don't think Hall is hurt enough to be IR'd. It'll be an interesting battle for that last WR spot. I think Wims has the inside track because of the 1 year head start in the offense. But if Hall shows his athleticism and talent, maybe Wims could move to a U TE role like some have suggested? I'd hate to lose Wims, I like his game.
DaSuperfan wrote:I don't think Hall is hurt enough to be IR'd. It'll be an interesting battle for that last WR spot. I think Wims has the inside track because of the 1 year head start in the offense. But if Hall shows his athleticism and talent, maybe Wims could move to a U TE role like some have suggested? I'd hate to lose Wims, I like his game.
It would be a wink wink deal I would think.
Shit, I'd love for him to make our team and immediately be put on IR!
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DaSuperfan wrote:I don't think Hall is hurt enough to be IR'd. It'll be an interesting battle for that last WR spot. I think Wims has the inside track because of the 1 year head start in the offense. But if Hall shows his athleticism and talent, maybe Wims could move to a U TE role like some have suggested? I'd hate to lose Wims, I like his game.
It would be a wink wink deal I would think.
Shit, I'd love for him to make our team and immediately be put on IR!
Could be but what if Hall is so impressive in camp that Nagy thinks he can contribute immediately? I know it's far-fetched, it'll make cutting someone like Wims pretty tough. We got a long way to go before the season starts, so we'll see.
There's games to be played... if we want Hall over Wims, we can tell Wims hey we really like you but we don't have a spot for you right now. If you would rather be on our PS or try your luck elsewhere, let us know. Otherwise, get out there and pull a hammy.
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I wonder if the thought of moving Wims to TE has even been considered by Nagy or Pace? Is position changing mostly a pipe dream by fans or an actual consideration by the powers that be?
Umbali wrote:I wonder if the thought of moving Wims to TE has even been considered by Nagy or Pace? Is position changing mostly a pipe dream by fans or an actual consideration by the powers that be?
Us fans don't know what Nagy and Pace think. At the end of the year watching Wims play it was clear he added noticeable size to his frame. He is not small. But he looked a good 10lbs heavier against the Vikings then Preseason. He definitely looked to be close in stature to Burton.
In college herw broke out his senior year. While having great hands he wasn't a corner or really athletic. Lower tier athleticism of a WR. As a TE upper l