2020 NFL Draft General Discussion

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Re: 2020 NFL Draft General Discussion

Mon Feb 03, 2020 2:44 pm

"My guy" at WR this draft is Jauan Jennings. Dude is going to make some team very happy. I see a young Brandon Marshall, but without the nuttiness when I watch his tape. Unfortunately, I think Nagy wants some speed at WR and this kid would just add to the slow corps we have now. I think they'll dump Gabriel this off-season too, so it's looking less and less likely that Jennings will be a late round option for Pace.
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Re: 2020 NFL Draft General Discussion

Wed Feb 12, 2020 8:05 pm

The Cooler King wrote:
Mon Feb 03, 2020 2:36 pm
DaSuperfan wrote:
Mon Feb 03, 2020 12:36 pm
I know there are other priorities in terms of need but you guys can't sleep on the need for a speed WR in this offense. Turbo is most likely a cap casualty this offseason and that leaves us with ARob, Miller, Ridley and Wims - none of these guys are legit homerun threats or can take a top off a defense. One thing when you look at the Bears offense is the lack of explosive plays. Sure, we can blame the OL and QB for a majority of this but honestly - there isn't a "Tyreek Hill" type of speed threat that puts fear into the defense. It's part of what makes defending the Chiefs offense so difficult. I think the Bears add someone via the draft at some point. Don't be surprised if it's as early as R2 if someone they like drops, i.e Hamler or Reagor.

Again, I fully understand that TE, OL, CB, Edge are all needs - but I think some are underestimating the value of adding more speed to the offense. Because honestly, there's not a whole lot of firepower for Nagy to work with. I love ARob and Miller just like most of you on here. ARob is a #1 acrobatic, possession type of WR. Miller is more quick than he is fast, great route runner. Ridley is also a route technician, not a burner and very inexperienced. Wims is a big body possession WR, more of a depth type of guy. If you eliminate Turbo out of the equation, then who will be getting downfield to challenge opposing defenses? I'd argue they need to add more than one burner to the offense, maybe not this offseason, just in general.

It's really tough plodding your way down field over and over again - you have to be able to hit some big plays (i.e. plays of 20 yards or more) consistently if you want to have an offense that can score points on a regular basis.

Also, out of the backfield, as we all know - Montgomery is not a burner. Cohen has the speed to pose a threat to defenses but he took a step back this year, wasn't really all that dynamic - not sure what happened to him, hopefully he regains his 2017 and 2018 self.

I know there are good players that aren't necessarily fast - and we have those type of players on the team (ARob, Miller, Montgomery, etc). What we don't have is a guy that the opposing defenses worry about beating them over the top.

Just want to reiterate I do understand that none of that is possible without good protection and a QB that doesn't consistently overthrow deep balls. Maybe adding a really fast guy will help Mitch cut down on the overthrows lol, who knows.
Unfortunately Gabriel's speed hasn't really translated into results consistently. With the Bears other needs and resources, I think it unfortunately falls into "nice to have" rather than need. I agree though I wouldn't rule the spot out for the right value in the draft.
Just because Gabriel's speed hasn't always yielded consistent results doesn't mean it isn't a top priority for Nagy's offense. Maybe Garbriel wasn't as good as we'd all hoped for. Bringing in a younger guy with world class speed will put some much needed fear into defenses - because as it stands now, there is no real threat down the field, so defenses can just tee off on the QB without worrying about getting beat over the top. I don't think this is a "nice to have" priority, I think it'll be a legit priority for the offense to get faster. They need to be getting more explosive plays.
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Re: 2020 NFL Draft General Discussion

Wed Feb 12, 2020 8:59 pm

Amen.
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Re: 2020 NFL Draft General Discussion

Thu Feb 13, 2020 10:11 am

DaSuperfan wrote:
Wed Feb 12, 2020 8:05 pm
The Cooler King wrote:
Mon Feb 03, 2020 2:36 pm

Unfortunately Gabriel's speed hasn't really translated into results consistently. With the Bears other needs and resources, I think it unfortunately falls into "nice to have" rather than need. I agree though I wouldn't rule the spot out for the right value in the draft.
Just because Gabriel's speed hasn't always yielded consistent results doesn't mean it isn't a top priority for Nagy's offense. Maybe Garbriel wasn't as good as we'd all hoped for. Bringing in a younger guy with world class speed will put some much needed fear into defenses - because as it stands now, there is no real threat down the field, so defenses can just tee off on the QB without worrying about getting beat over the top. I don't think this is a "nice to have" priority, I think it'll be a legit priority for the offense to get faster. They need to be getting more explosive plays.
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Re: 2020 NFL Draft General Discussion

Thu Feb 13, 2020 10:36 pm

Look at the Chiefs' offensive weapons and line, then look at ours:

Travis Kelce - 136 targets
Sammy Watkins - 90 targets (13 games)
Tyreek Hill - 89 targets (12 games)
Mecole Hardman - 41 targets


To me... we need an overhaul at the TE position. This means a FA signing and a draft pick. At WR, we need one pure speed receiver.

Hill is arguably the fastest player in the NFL (4.29 dash)
Watkins ran a 4.43
Hardman ran a 4.33
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